Klein Flip-Flop Over Oil Exports

Posted on Saturday, September 03 at 23:15 by whelan costen
Surprise! alberta news Saturday, Sep 03, 2005 Alberta oil production boosted after Klein flip-flop CALGARY (mytelus.com) - After saying he didnít think Alberta producers could provide any more oil to the United States, Premier Ralph Klein did an about-face Friday. Klein asked the Energy and Utilities Board (EUB) late Friday to remove any export hurdles. As a result, exportable production will increase by up to 30,000 barrels per day, an EUB spokesman said. http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=ab_home&articleID=2021500

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  1. Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:18 am
    What do you figure, did Dick threatened to cancel dinner or something?

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  2. Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:16 pm
    No I figure Klein and his family will be living the high road while many of the Canadian citizens are freezing their ass off this winter, that is what I figure.
    There is something to be said about how the few (minority) get hold so much control over the majority,could have something to do with the way political parties have positioned themselves.
    Funny isn't it here in Canada if your not a Liberal you not considered a person who has the right to call "government" into question,and that goes for who ever the "governing parties is". But just stop paying your taxes !

    I would say Klein is a bough man and he has only one choice and that would be step down, but that does not pay so well. He will more likely end up sitting on the Board of Directors of some big American oil company, isn't that where all these so called elected social climbers end up ?

  3. Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:31 am
    Klein is a Cheney wannabe.King Klein, the oil baron.
    Another Americanized Pseudo-Canadian who should be
    forcefully deported to Texas or Washington D.C.

    Part of the problem is the Alberta (Alberta=America)
    right-wing mentality, influenced by the Alberta
    bible-belt.Morally puritanical pea-brained cowboys
    who worship corporations dogmatically, while failing
    to realize they can move south anytime.If they
    DID truck south, they'd do Canada a big favor.They
    were the only province to be pro-Iraq war, and
    often embrace puritanical/religious fascism and prohibition on the issues of prostitution, gay marriage
    and cannabis ingestion, while promoting militaristic
    killing, gun rights, pharmaceutical pill-popping, nicotine
    addiction and alcoholism.

    Alberta Neo-Con WHACKOS.

  4. Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:50 am
    Luckily most Christians aren't that bad. Some are an exception...more rigid in their political ideologies.

  5. Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:07 am
    Nothing wrong with sparse or moderate religion if it completely stays out of politics.But when dogma enters politics, it erodes personal liberty because of blind allegiance to authority figures, and lack of empirical foundation.

    In the name of ethical regimentation, political
    philosophy often employs puritanical morality
    squad enforcement when religion is incorporated.

    Atheists and agnostics have the absolute right to be free
    from faith-based assumptions and impositions, because
    when those religious beliefs are wrong, the enforcers
    are completely oblivious to rational counter-arguments.
    The puritanical neo-cons in America and their current
    societal manifestations epitomize the degree
    of unjust hyper-criminalization, discrimination
    and conformity that occurs when religiosity is allowed to seep into political philosophy and spread.

  6. Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:49 pm
    Oh come on you guys! This kind of reporting just serves to erase any kind of credibility you (hopefully) might be striving to attain. It's an embarrasment.

    Basically put, one man's flip-flop is another man's change of mind, or in this case, he has just been updated with more accurate information about a situation, and has put it to good use. REPEAT AFTER ME: THIS IS NOT A FLIP-FLOP. Politicians do learn, you know. I'm sure Klein was told many times over that oil and gas production is going flat out, which just makes sense considering the price of energy. Since his statement, a lot of industry and government people concerned about the effects of Katrina have figured out ways to temporarily increase the production, by doing things like forgoing optional non-critical maintenance procedures that would delay production.

    I'm sure that there's lots of much more legitimate complaints you can make about Ralph Klein. MAKE THEM. This article just makes the lot of you seem like senseless yapping idiots, grabbing at any straw to slander someone you don't like.

    This whole thread is a non issue, and should be put up in the "Vive le Canada"'s hall of shame. Let it go.

  7. Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:56 pm
    It sheds light on the nature of King Klein's hyper-inflated
    ego.Imo, he's a self-assuming alcoholic-brain-damaged prick
    who thinks his cushion of short-term earth-exploitation
    and bible-belt buffer gives him the anything goes high
    road.

    King Klein : the MASTER of parliamentary closure and neo-con 'debate'.

    If you try to rationalize oblivious neo-con flip-flops, then your antics are as self-assuming & nutty as theirs.

  8. Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:13 am
    Speaking of freezing one's ass off... I have Grandparents
    in Alberta who both have arthritis.A few years ago, after
    the natural gas rebates (election bribes), Klein's energy
    minister (if I'm not mistaken) told those struggling elderly folks (who were looking at paying over $250/mo. in utilities for a 1000 sq.ft. house) to put on a sweater.

    I could imagine Ralph's ideological cousins in the states(Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld) chuckling if they heard that
    line."Good one, fellow neocon cult member... good one...
    ha ha...."

    There is a dual meaning to the phrase "bone-chillingly cold".

  9. Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:12 am
    The sad thing is you might even be right.

    However, my point stands. You are completely WRONG this time around. He said he didn't think something was possible, and when he conferred with some experts, it turns out there was some things that could be done. I dare you to do better in the circumstances.

    Save your rants for issues that have legitimacy. By going off like like a frothing zealot about this non issue, you're hurting your own cause.

    GET A GRIP

  10. Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:29 am
    YOU should get a grip.It's time to hit the Neo-Cons harder
    than they've ever been hit before.And I'm not being myopic
    and solely focusing in on this lone issue... it's the big
    picture of a Neo-Con bastion still clinging to power, and
    it's time to stop showing Neo-Con bastards respect...it's
    time to stop being timid... in the interest of humanity.

    That's one reason why the Dems caved in the last few
    elections down south... so dang scared about being perceived as malicious.It's not malice when you voice disdain for manipulative, corporate/puritanical fascists at every opportunity.... it's social justice and freedom
    of speech.

    Klein the Con will do some things which APPEAR to indicate
    rationality, giving him another free hand to do some
    heavy-handed moves.Manipulation is a strategy the Neo-Cons
    have mastered, don't be gullible or complacent or Canada
    will lose it's sovereignty.I and many others want Klein
    OUT ASAP !!!

  11. Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:45 am
    You are being myoptic. You keep using the word 'Neocon', short form of 'Neo-Conservative' like King Ralph fits into the definition of a Straussian Conservative. You might want to read up on what a NeoConservative is, and how unlike one King Ralph is.<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_and_neoliberalism_in_Canada">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_and_neoliberalism_in_Canada</a><br />
    <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill<br />

  12. Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:13 am
    He's a Neo-con in Neo-lib clothing.What does it matter ?
    Both are 2 sides of the same repulsive corporate coin
    withering away Canadian identity in favor of American
    control.

  13. Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:30 am
    I do think the labels get in the way of reality, if someone is a this, then they will act like 'this', blah blah, they are cameleons, no label fits most of these guys, they just morph into whatever they need to be at any given time, as long as it serves their purpose, and I have yet to see any indication that that purpose is ever the people.

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  14. Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:36 pm
    Listen, folks at the center or left of center won't stop
    bashing Klein until he moves to their direction on...

    -Reducing/eliminating : sour gas wells, an over-reliance on petroleum products and coal based power plants
    -Maintaining Canadian ownership of natural resources
    -Maintaining Canadian privacy rights
    -Approving same-sex marriage (which does not infringe
    on the rights of heterosexual people to marry)
    -Approving soft-drug consumption rights for adults (a
    victimless act)
    -Supporting a NON-pre-emptive military
    -Many other issues

    Being timid, inconsistent or picking one's spots doesn't
    work.Neither does being concerned about being perceived
    as unpleasant or rude.Jack Layton has been consistent,
    relentless and aggressive (re: federal televised debate
    and all news interviews) on the above issues and many
    others... and it's paid of for the NDP federally, and
    for Carole James' NDP provincially.

    Call it bashing or relentlessly criticizing, it will be
    done because it is the only way to hammer away at the
    right-wing wall.



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