Why Aren't "They" Attacking Norway ?

Posted on Wednesday, September 28 at 15:22 by Ed Deak
Lots of Americans like to think they have the most generous government in the world. Again, not true. The US is the stingiest donor of foreign aid among rich nations. Current foreign development aid is up from $52.3 billion to $57 billion per year but quite short of the $100 billion needed to meet the goals of the UN Millennium Development Goals (MDG) for 2015, which pledged to reduce poverty and inequality in a Declaration of Millennium Goals signed by 175 UN member nations in 2000. Rich nations contribute 0.25 percent of their GDP (gross domestic product); the US contributes 0.1 percent. Among Ambassador John Bolton's 700 amendments to "reform" the UN, his wish list includes gutting the MDG. Americans like to think they are spreading freedom and democracy around the world. You guessed it. Not true. The war in Iraq has cost $200 billion so far, but the Iraqi justice minister can't prosecute foreign fighters on Iraqi soil who detain and manhandle Iraqi citizens without judicial procedure. As many as 10,000 Iraqis are in detention in grossly abusive locations, of which Abu Ghraib is only the most notorious. Foreign fighters, of course, are the multinational forces, made up of an effective coalition of two—Britain and the US. Iraqi women have come under Sharia law, after 50 years of sharing legal equality with men. Think about that, as a test of spreading democracy! Iraqi farmers are required to buy seeds from corporations after five millennia of giving the world the genius of their wisdom and experimentation. Now, by virtue of Paul Bremer's Coalition Provisional Authority "intellectual property" law, included in the current Iraqi constitution, Iraqi farmers have no right to plant seeds not licensed by the state. Then, too, Americans like to think their government cares about the poor, the unfortunate, and the stricken. They mention the Marshall Plan every chance they get. They forget the Marshall Plan was a very shrewd investment, which made America rich in the post-war. With the $200 billion spent on Iraq since 2003, their government could have done the following: for $100 billion, it could have single-handedly donated the money to the UN toward reducing the steady rate of death of 1,200 children per hour, the single cause of which is the pathology of poverty. That's equivalent to three tsunamis per month, every month! There would have been money left over to provide education for every child on the globe, reducing child mortality and infectious diseases. With the other $100 billion it could have fixed the levees in New Orleans, and prepared shelters stocked with food, water and medicines, staffed by doctors and public safety experts to protect its own citizens at home. That's what a government that cares for the poor might do. http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/092105Bohne/092105bohne.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on September 29, 2005]

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  1. Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:32 pm
    This article is sad. It makes me sad. Why aren't other people sad? Why isn't excessive wealth and other signs of greed seen as bad in Canada? That makes me sad. Are you sad too?

    If only Norway wasn't a one-religion monarchy I would move. Sadly, you have be Christian to live there. That makes me sad too.

  2. Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:32 pm
    " Most Americans like to believe they live in the best country in the world. They don't. According to the United Nations Human Development Report for 2005, Norway is number one. "

    Yaaaawn. Yet another of the endless demagogery articles on the United States of America and it's people, and on THIS particular occasion Norway. Having nothing at all to do with Canada...on a website which CLAIMS to be promoting Canada, being 4 Canada, lol...and "Canadiana"...hey, we get it..there IS no such thing (eh). That's why your nose is so far up American A** searching to "find yourselves" :)...smoke, smoke, smoke that left-handed cigarette...

  3. Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:47 pm
    Yes, well if Americans can only manage to build a time machine and place large petroleum deposits under our icy tundras, we can <b>finally</b> put the lessons we've learned from the Norwegians to work.

  4. by Patm
    Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:59 pm
    erm, you had, and still have, huge petroleum deposits. Texas oil Barons, the Alaskan pipeline, remember?

  5. Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:04 am
    It seems more and more important to protect our Canadian sovereignty. Like Norway, Canada also has oil and gas, and the other important commodity "fresh water". Cooperation with the US has probably gone too far - and, as we have seen time and again, has gone sour.

  6. by mk
    Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:08 am
    Ummmm ... this is a reprint feed from an American site. Agree: yawwwn, only two comments and already everyone is wallowing in their usual foregone conclusions.

    Though the question posed by the article is fair (all questions are), the conclusions reached may tilt toward preexisting bias (shocker, it's an editorial). Read for instance Bremer's Order 81, it's not even close to what is cited above (which is pretty much untrue and suggests the author simply quoted other media and didn't fact-check), with the far more insidious parts requiring a law degree to sort out.

    "Having nothing at all to do with Canada..."

    Sure it does. Anything Canadians might want to chat about amongst each other and with other freely-participating folks is just fine. Nor is their nationality particularly relevant, as the author of the original article aptly demonstrates. It certainly isn't your job to tell Ed Deak what he can and cannot take an interest in. Not to mention Ed's posting history (both on this site and elsewhere) rarely tends to fixate on the U.S. alone.

  7. Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:45 am
    If the terrorists are legit, and working towards their stated goals, NAMELY, A WORLD UNDER ONE RELIGION, ISLAM, then your country is on their list, even if it's last on that list! Don't get too cocky, or else the U.S. will have to bail you out, too.

    Mr. Anonymous

  8. Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:52 am
    By the way, WHAT IS TOO RICH and WHAT IS TOO POOR and who determines that? YOU?

    Mr. Anonymous

  9. Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:52 am
    How is forced equality of outcomes, omnipresent government and a lack of incentive to produce and get ahead a good thing? I certainly wouldn't want to live in such a place. It sounds positively dreary.

  10. Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:14 am
    Note to the usual brave "anonymus", who thinks Norway must be a boring place to live. You're in good company:

    "Mankind has grown strong in eternal struggles; and will only perish through eternal peace" Adolf Hitler.

    By the way, also a note to our politicians who're so anxious to jump on the war wagon with the great "War president". Yesterday's B52 overflights were not only by singles in all directions, but on one occasion 3 of them at once, flying South in a wide formation.

    The Norwegians shot Vidkun Quisling, their last "great war leader" in 1945, after his dear, struggling Adolf was defeated.

    Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  11. Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:34 am
    Interesting omission by the author was, how much Norway is contributing to the poor nations, how much THEY donate for disaster relief (i.e. Tsunami,Katrina,Rita etc.), and why they insist on telling the U.S. how it should spend its money, when THEY seem to be spending their money ALL on themselves.
    Mr. A

  12. Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:37 am
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    <p>---<br>"The cost to the good people for their indifference to their public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato<br />
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  13. by mk
    Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:09 pm
    It *must* be because the author was hiding an inconvenient fact. Whatever we do, let's not fact-check. <br />
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    <a href="http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp">http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp</a><br />
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    Norway: 0.87 % of GDP last year, that's #1 in the world in terms of generosity relative to economic output. Ooops!<br />
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    For comparative reference, the G7:<br />
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    Canada: 0.26% <br />
    U.S.: 0.16% <br />
    U.K.: 0.36% <br />
    Italy: 0.15%<br />
    France: 0.42%<br />
    Germany: 0.28%<br />
    Japan: 0.19%<br />
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    Now, hurricane relief?<br />
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    <a href="http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20050901T000000-0500_87388_OBS_THOUSANDS_FEARED_DEAD__NEW_ORLEANS_TO_BE_ABANDONED.asp">http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20050901T000000-0500_87388_OBS_THOUSANDS_FEARED_DEAD__NEW_ORLEANS_TO_BE_ABANDONED.asp</a><br />
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    "The United States Government is not yet requesting international assistance at this time."<br />
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    Oops.<br />
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    Tsunami relief?<br />
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    <a href="http://www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=5193">http://www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=5193</a><br />
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    "U.S. Rep. John W. Olver, D-Mass., compared the current amount of American funding with Norway’s. Although America’s $350 million is more than Norway’s $180 million, Olver noted in the Sentinel and Enterprise in Fitchburg, Mass., Norway has a much smaller population.<br />
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    He said if the U.S. matched Norway’s contribution as it relates to its population, the amount of U.S. would top $9 billion."<br />
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  14. Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:30 pm
    I wonder. Does Godwin's Law apply on Vive, or is it confined to Usenet? In any case, throwing Hitler's name around is a cheap debating tactic, and you know it.

    Anyway, if you like the idea of government social engineers wiping your bum and cutting down the tall poppies for you, then I'm afraid you and I are on completely opposite sides of the fence in terms of how Canada should work. What's disheartening to me is that there are far too many people in Canada who think like you.

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