A War Crime In Real Time , Obliterating Fallujah

Again, I have to say. by in large this particular site is a treat both for readers and contributors alike.


How long ago was it the talk was of thee Taliban and thier destuction of religious symbols.


I believe our "fight" if one can rightly call it that, is of farmore imporance than most can get their heads around.


The idea of a manifest destiny is as stroung in the halls of corporate america as it has ever been

It is only in my later years and with the aid of the internet i have continue my education.
When I stumbled on the many site dedicated to critical thinking I quickly discovered those tool alloed me to analyse lies and propaganda in a way i never had before. Some of what I find and share does get piccked up and posted on various sites
this one for example was picked up and featured on BC Politics "Word Tricks & Propaganda

By Edward S. Herman"http://zena.secureforum.com/Znet/zmag/zarticle.cfm?Url=articles/june97herman.htm
Alex Carey, the Austrailian and David Korten, Naom Chomsky Howard Zinn, Gerry Mander, and a host of others I'me 'met' through the internet -all have enhance an old drive
to establish equality down here wher my working class root get the brunt of it.

It really is time, folks. to see past the lies
my sig is

"The Bar, the Pulpit and the Press Nefariously combine To Cry up an usurpt Pow'r And stamp it Right Devine. -1695"

any one with a similar love of language will quickly grasp the significance of the above words
As far as I know 'Right Devine' is a referrence to God's word
This nefarious usrption as beena goingon for far to long
It will continue to do so until high school drop-out like my self
start to get their heads a round some simple facts
we have been hoodwinked!
I don't much like it! Do you?

We have to take a stand against corruption, fraud, murder, etc., wherever we find it. Stop sitting back and taking it. While everyone one was busy voting, I was standing up to the police and crooked officials in the parking lot, standing my ground and refusing to move. But I did get the Chief's backing giving me the right to survive. Now I am writing up a resolution for officials to be fined and jailed if they use the law to harrass people. These seemingly small things all add up. So take a stand today.

I am appalled at Americans who are still waving the flag and supporting Bush and the troops. A nation of idiots. What has happened to Fallujah is so horrible if feel like slapping the next person who tells me what a great job Bush is doing.

And I quote:

Thanks to the biased "sciences" of forecasting, econometrics, and statistics, if you bomb a city and then rebuild it, the data shows a huge spike in economic growth.

So it makes sense for the US to bomb the hell out of Iraqi cities, because their corporations will make a huge fortune rebuilding them. AKA, good for the economy. Whose, you ask ?

Why, the US of course. You didn't think this is supposed to help the Iraqis, did you ??

The above quote is from my favourite book of late, "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man", by John Perkins.

ISBN 1-57675-301-8

Yes, this should be classed as a War Crime.

The US admin should be held accountable, and let's go back to all living presidents, they are guilty of crimes as well.


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"Arrogance is unacceptable. Do it to my face, and I will react" - Jim Callaghan

so by that reckoning or is it Re-conning
the rest of the world should bomb the bejaysus out the who hess hey!
Works for me!
Gotta get those fiat dollas a floatin!

ummm, hello! the 'international order' referred to is and always has been entirely Machiavellian, you would give the benefit of the doubt to Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot or Adolf Hitler? Ridiculous.

The USA is trying very hard to increase human rights and dignity in the world - unlike the United Nations which is perfectly willing to negotiate away human rights if they can make money from it with their buddies in France.

The slaughterhouses in Fallujah, where Iraqis and foreign workers were gruesomely beheaded is what that whole country would become, same as it was under Saddam, if it were not for the goodwill of the Americans.

Goodwill of the Americans? Oh, yeah, they went over to liberate Iraq out of the goodness of their hearts and in the process just happened to accidentally kill 100 000 Iraqis.

A NON 846, you are not well informed.

Read something !!


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"Arrogance is unacceptable. Do it to my face, and I will react" - Jim Callaghan

I remember some time back various petitions were circulated to protest the Taliban's treatment of women in Afghanistan. Almost every week, I would receive a copy by email. Being new to this site, I don't know whether something similar has been done already regarding the massacre that is going on in Iraq presently. Does anyone know whether such a petition (like the Afghan one) that can be sent to members of the Canadian Government is already in circulation? I believe the impact could be more important. Meanwhile, there is this: 100.000 IRAQI DEATHS ! WORLD WIDE PETITION AGAINST THE ESCALATION ! http://amigaphil.planetinternet.be/BTpetitiontxt.html

The USA is trying very hard to increase human rights and dignity in the world

Tell that to the Guatemalans, Chileans, Brazilians, Bolivians, Phillipinos,Ianians, Argentinians etc who all suffered under US aided or imposed terrorist regimes. And who do you think supported Saddam? And whose boy was OBL? What total ignorant rubbish you spoat NON. Do a little reading rather than getting your drivel from CNN-FOX.

Anon,

When I think of the Mosques sealed off, and US soldiers rushing in, murdering innocent Iraqis while they are praying; when I think of a magnificent caged tiger, shot by a US soldier, I think of you Anon. And all your coharts who gave the thumbs-up to this massacre. And the more I think about all those dead people and dead tiger, the more is pisses me off that you are striding around, making some kind of obscene profit in this, while the world suffers. Its and people like you that cause all the misery and suffering in this world. I just wish I could meet you so I could slap the living snot out of you.

David,

I really admire your thinking and correct analysis of what is really going on. And that if we possess any decency whatsoever, we must object to this senseless and brutal murders. Until and unless America owns up to the fact that America was founded on the blood of millions of Indians and theft of their land, America will go down in a big ugly crash. I think we will see that happen within the next 4 years. Here's what I found on the Internet under American holocaust:

despite an often expressed contempt for Christianity, in Mein Kampf Hitler had written that his plan for a triumphant Nazism was modeled on the Catholic Church's traditional "tenacious adherence to dogma" and its "fanatical intolerance," particularly in the Church's past when, as Arno J. Mayer has noted, Hitler observed approvingly that in "building 'its own altar,' Christianity had not hesitated to 'destroy the altars of the heathen.' ', 15 Had Hitler required supporting evidence for this contention he would have needed to look no further than the Puritans' godly justifications for exterminating New England's Indians in the seventeenth century or, before that, the sanctimonious Spanish legitimation of genocide, as ordained by Christian Truth, in fifteenth- and sixteenth-century Meso- and South America. (It is worth noting also that the Fuhrer from time to time expressed admiration for the "efficiency" of the American genocide campaign against the Indians, viewing it as a forerunner for his own plans and programs.) But the roots of the tradition run far deeper than that-back to the high Middle Ages and before-when at least part of the Christians' willingness to destroy the infidels who lived in what was considered to be a spiritual wilderness was rooted in a rabid need to kill the sinful wilderness that lived within themselves. To understand the horrors that were inflicted by Europeans and white Americans on the Indians of the Americas it is necessary to begin with a look at the core of European thought and culture-Christianity-and in particular its ideas on sex and race and violence.

...so you're saying that violence against people that disagree with you is okay. If it's okay for you, it must be okay for others, but that just leads to a spiral of violence. Oh well, if that's your dream for the world, so be it.

When you come across as brainless and intentionally make people angry, you get what you deserve.

Go kick your dog again, he will eventually bite back.

Perhaps you should ask your doctor to give you a colonoscopy to see if he can locate your brains, I think they slipped.


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"Arrogance is unacceptable. Do it to my face, and I will react" - Jim Callaghan

Anon, you can't understand the reasons for the US war in Iraq without the background knowledge of the history of the US in the middle east. If you want a good starting place to get this I recommend Linda McQuaig's "It's The Crude, Dude." I think you will be shocked at how much you didn't know about the subject, especially if you are an American relying on mainstream media for (mis)information. Everything she talks about in the book is also easily verifiable from other sources.