Who Pays For Afghanistan's Tim Hortons?

Typical Canadian Business Attitude! This from a company that promotes itself as a loyal Canadian Company.

I never cease to be amassed by how those we elect to lead our personal, national and international interests always honour Government Officials, Corporate Executives, and Businessmen, all who have personal agendas for making and putting money into their own pockets and national loyalties to others other then to their own nations and communities well beginning.

Canadian Business being more interested in profits then honouring our veterans and complaining about lost profits if their workers are afforded the time off or day off to attend services. I know of no businesses in Canada that fully support there employees as members of the Canadian Forces Reserves let alone our regular serving military members without leaving one thinking it is a burden that is being forced on them. How many fly or hang a Canadian Flag? At the same time Canadian Businesses are first in line to get military contracts and benefits that come from them. War and the Military provide a fertile breeding ground for knowledge, technology, science, new medical advancements and manufacturing achievements not to mention a lot of free public money investment.

All leap generations ahead even to the point that would never be thought of in a fraction of time if not for war and the military, a breeding ground in which invention is born from necessity, adverse conditions and lack of time. You would think that since most Canadian Businesses, which are American owned, there executives would have a different opinion or attitude but what should Canadians expect from the Canadian elite whose loyalty is more to ones self serving money grubbing attitude then to their country of Canada. One would think if a country truly cares about one’s people’s sacrifice in war that the country could make Remembrance Day a national holiday of remembrance.

Yet the sad truth is those who have given of themselves without the slightest desire for personal gain or profit but give by self sacrifice are rarely if never honored for showing and standing for the best and noblest ideals that man kind holds dear.



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Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.

Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.

My first thought was that this was an extremely early April Fool's joke, and an extremely bad one. Finding out it's for real makes it even less amusing.

I have no further comment concerning this matter.

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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

The doughnuts and coffee will probably do more damage to the troops than anything the Taliban can do with their RPG's and AK's.

What really infuriates me the most is that Tim Horton’s got a lot of free publicity and good will from the general public, that meaning Canadians. It’s Canadians that got coned on this one.

Here we dumb Canadians thought a Canadian Business and their Executives were doing something from the goodness of their hearts showing their sense of community, loyalty to Canada and the Canadian serviceman.

Its not that they can't afford to do it and I would assume their is a tax credit to boot for doing, if they haven't claimed one already.

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Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.

Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.

Tim Horton's has been bought up by Wendy's years ago and it is no longer a Canadian, but an American owned company.

Wendy's have been cutting back on service, staff, and products since the day they bought the outfit, although the local franchise owners may also have something to do with it.

We go to TH every two weeks, on our way home from our shopping trip to town, because we have to go to the can before hitting the road, it is the only joint that doesn't reek of burned grease and we still like some of the products.

But the place sure has gone down the drain under Wendy's. The staff turnover is unbelievable. We seldom see the same service people twice in a row and have heard that they treat their staff like dirt, the washrooms are filthy, the saucers have been replaced by small pieces of wax paper, etc. etc.

But then this is the era of "economic efficiency", so, who are we to complain, as long as the owners are working to fill their bottomless pockets ?

Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

Nearly every FF outlet has "Now Hiring" signs in their windows. Wonder if they thought to raise the wages and benefits yet, to attract people...........?

Or is it a sign of the times that, despite high turnover rates, there are always people "in line" to work, even if only for a few weeks?

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"Son, if you wanna get ahead in this world, never work for another man as long as you live."

Yes ED, my view of what customer service is today is "How can I offer you as little as possible but still get you to open your wallet". In the last couple of decades the culture is one of "naked greed" in which business is conducted with zero regard for how the customer feels, and they aren't even pretending to care anymore. The customer has been reduced to a walking wallet and customer satisfaction/dissatisfaction equated with whether or not you opened your wallet and pay.
Customers tiptoeing gingerly through filthy restrooms doesn't rate unless it threatens the bottom line. It's like McDonalds waking up only when the bottom nosedived, they made changes (I won't eat there), but as usual they will spend more money trying to convince your kids that they need MCDonalds than providing a product that's worth eating. I once read a article about a AD guy who got sick of the game entered a monastery for a year of thinking and came to the conclusion that truly good product sells itself and ads are a way to convince people they need junk or that junk isn't junk. He runs a successful organic herb farm now and spends little on advertising.
A funny thing I ran into recently if I might bend ears further, is one morning when I stopped by my local gas station to treat myself to a "professional" coffee and as I prepared my coffee I listened while three people in suits stood next to the coffee island I was at and scrutinized the front of a shelf where the little pockets hold the price tags are and they where having a discussion about how the red strip would make a big difference from the blue one and how much an improvement it would be. And as I looked on the coffee island at the open binder I saw a photocopy of the exact same island in detail that they presumably where using as a blueprint. Then after much congratulations they glued this red strip on the shelf end and admired it and voiced the opinion that this would make the product more of a picker upper than it had been. When I looked on the shelf I saw those prewrapped brownies and cookies that contain enough chemicals to let them sit a month without molding, and that's when I couldn't help laughing at the absolute absurdity of the waste. Three "professionals" in suits, the science of shelf design, the blueprint, and all to sell expensive, tasteless junk. That waste multiplied by a million is why we can't cure cancer or feed the planet and yes my sucking gas bar coffee is part of the problem. Lightbulb moment for sure and when they heard me laugh and realized I was there one man said "Oh you like these too eh?" and I just nodded cause the real explanation is this longwinded.

I quit TH a while ago, not that I ate there much anyway. The food is just not healthy, and the service is crap. With this news, I won't ever set foot in another TH or Wendy's again, and I'll suggest to everyone that I know to do the same.

Then you'd be feeding them false information. Wendy's no longer controls Tim Hortons.<br />
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<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2006/06/27/timhortons.html">http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2006/06/27/timhortons.html</a><br />
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And like usual, I am the opposite of everyone here. The troops need to be fed. The US provides it's troops with Pizza Hut's and Burger Kings, why not spend a little extra to give our boys an Iced Cap in the +45C desert heat?<br />
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It's a hard job we have asked them to do, and I hope they enjoy every double-double.<br />
<p>---<br>"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden<br />

Not everyone Dr. Caleb. If I hadn't been off topic I might have added that despite my opinion of the mission, I wouldn't begrudge them a Timmies given where they are and what conditions are like. Bigger fish to fry

"It's a hard job we have asked them to do, and I hope they enjoy every double-double."

I don't care how hard or risky the "job" of killing is, it's a bullshit "job" that the Canadian public has NOT asked them to do - they are being directed by a dictatorship NOT the Canadian people.

As usual, you are distracting from the main issue at hand, which is that our stolen tax dollar is going into the pockets of multinational corporations for a cause that hardly anyone in Canada supports, and for a cause that's based on a pile of lies. The 9/11 false flag operation is the main excuse, therefore anything that's based on that lie is a fraud.

As for Wendy's selling off it's TH shares, it won't matter to me, the food and sevices still stink, but thanks for the tip.

Some people don't get that our troops need to be fed, no matter where they are. The contract for mess halls gets paid the same, whether it's Serca food services, Sysko or whomever has the contract right now.

So you are the distraction with "that our stolen tax dollar is going into the pockets of multinational corporations for a cause that hardly anyone in Canada supports". The cost would be no different if our troops were in Sudan, Afghanistan or Germany.

They aren't 'stolen' funds. People have asked the Forces to protect them, so yes, the job of 'killing' is harsh and someone needs to do it. Remember the whole conversation we had about how are troops got to Afghanistan? Regardless of 'false flags', the troops went there with our blessing. No amount of rhetoric will change that.

I go to Timmies twice a day, and their coffee and muffins are just fine. Same with the staff, who change little from month to month, and are always friendly (and easy on the eyes). You may avoid it, I love every time I'm there.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

Actually, I'd rather see the troops get some decent rum at the end of every patrol and HEALTHY food rather than the commercial garbage pushed by large corporations.

It's bad enough that they have to dodge bullets, suicide bombers, juiced up American jet jocks, and essentially do eternal point duty where our so called "allies" are too afraid to tread.

Giving our troops over sugered and over creamed coffee and donuts isn't going to help in either keeping them healthy, or low stressed.

If it were up to me, I'd sooner bring them home and tell the US government to clean up it's own damn mess.

But that's just my POV.





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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

Poor troops - first they have to risk their lives for a bogus cause and now they are forced to eat high calorie fast food which has absolutely no nutritional value.