Alberta Election Today!

"Voting down the Ed Stelmach government is the only chance we have of making changes"

Mmmmm, no. Due to the extreme lack of effort on the part of all parties in my area, many of the names on the ballot are new to me. They made no effort to win my vote, or they gave up to a conservative government long before the election.

Why would I give any 'party' my vote? I usually go to the local 'debate', but there wasn't one. Too lazy I guess. Guess that's why I was too lazy to put my X inside the []. Messed that ballot up real good.

Doc, it takes a lot of effort to even get ON the ballot. You have to fill out paperwork, hold a nomination meeting, and also gather signatures from enough people in your constituency to officially get on that little piece of paper.

Then you need to find people to help you raise money, do voter contact, put up signs, and all the rest of it. While the incumbent Conservatives have plenty of tax money at their disposal, candidates from the other parties will have as much money (and volunteer help) as they can raise from the people in their constituency--ie, you. If they don't have a lot of support or money (which can happen quite easily, considering that the other parties are not nearly as well-resourced as the Conservatives, and also considering differences in policy eg NDP candidates are not allowed by their party to accept corporate donations while Conservative and Liberal candidates have no problem with that) then they won't be able to do much else besides get on the ballot.

Personally, I wonder why you yourself didn't get more involved with the political process beyond just voting?

As a volunteer for a local campaign you could have offered your time and energy, to do things such as say, contact the local Chamber of Commerce and ask them to hold a forum (the only reason we had forums in our last local election was that we had committed volunteers in our party pushing for them).

If you didn't want to do that through a party, you could have done through an activist group (by organizing an issues-based forum such as one on the environment or on inter-provincial trade agreements of whatever you might have liked). Forums are often sponsored by concerned groups of citizens or organizations.

Or you could have donated to a candidate and helped them get out to meet more constituents.

Or you could have run yourself. If you didn't think you had a good option, then what was stopping you from stepping in yourself? Perhaps the fact it would require you yourself to get involved and do the work?

When it comes down to it, the reality is that there is no "us" and "them" in our political system. There's only us. Some of us care enough to get involved, and some of us care enough to vote, and some of us use our cynicism as an excuse for our own laziness and apathy.

Dr Caleb, You are one of the people that blames Canadians for corruption in our government because of their lack of action, based on what you have written, yet you are choosing to take no action...that's very disappointing, as the message it sends to others is.

The evidence proving the Alberta Conservative government is seriously corrupt and not at all concerned with the interests of Albertan's is too substantial to ignore, though I do recall you work for the Alberta government, does this have anything to do with your decision and comments?

If I was still living in Alberta there is no way I would miss my opportunity to cast my vote against the Alberta Conservative Government knowing what I know.

all governments are corrupt so what's your point? When you vote you just acknowledge their power over you , doesnt matter who you vote for. The jesuits have taken a stranglehold on us in collaboration with the jews who are bing used as patsys much like we all are in this democracy bullshit.

Are there a lot of Jewish Jesuits named Bing running in the Alberta election? I mean, I don't live there or anything, but it would seem to me that's pretty small demographic to base a political movement on.

Geez Rev! Are you ever out of the loop.
You do you thinkk Dr.C moonlights for?
Most of what he presents here is in a code known only to the few The switch over to this new "connection" represents a union long in the planning stages
Now I'm gonna hafta ...

Voted ahead of time for the NDP, not cause I trust them or their vision but because they have the best chance of affecting a change. The Liberals and Conservatives are the same party for all intents and purposes in my opinion.

Thank you Milton. Good for you.

On the contrary, I did act. I got out, walked to the voting booth and spoiled my ballot. Only about 43% of Albertans did act in any manner. The other 57% are the ones you should be pointing fingers at. My mother grew up in Montreal, and she sometimes went to vote, to find her name already crossed off the list as having voted. She always taught me to at least spoil my ballot, in order to prevent the corruption she saw.

None of the candidates, IMHO, tried to win my vote. Not even as a protest vote against another party.

Who I vote for has nothing to do with who I work for. Some may suspect they know my politics based on past comments, but I assure you, you don't. Mostly because I don't vote for, or against a party. I vote for who I think best represents my views, regardless of party. I did not have a chance to find out the views of everyone who was running in my riding - and I even tried to do that.

I tried to make an informed decision, and my lack of information led me to the decision to not vote for anyone, rather to vote for no one. But I voted.

Susan - Actually, I had considered that in the past, and haven't ruled it out for the future. I have been a scrutineer in the past, and volunteered in my youth putting up signs for local town/city candidates.

Actually, one of the Liberal incumbents that was defeated is a United Church Minister. I knew him as a University Professor, with whom I took a class titled "Witchcraft and the Occult." True story! I had to take an 'Arts' class every symester in University, and I already knew 'English'

Let's see some evidence of corruption.

I have substantial evidence of the Alberta Government being seriously corrupt...do a search on Robin Mathews articles about Kelly Marie Richard and if you would like to view any of the evidence supporting this case or further very signficant and abundant evidence proving the seroiusly unethical partnership the Alberta Conservative Government have with the company known as CGI who are involved in seriously unethical and unlawful activies as the evidence we have proves.

As as far as the Conservative Party of Canada, here is an example of the evidence supporting they are corrupt related to the offer made by them to Cadman...

I have a copy of a document, which you may be able to find online or I can provide you a copy of if you email me at kmer8@hotmail.com, documenting that the company known as CGI reported that they represented 17 of the top 25 insurance companies is 2002, including policy administration and handling all their claims. Then consider the offer made to Cadman was made in 2005 and that the evidence supports that CGI has grown rapidly since 2002 when they reported they represented 17 of the top 25 Canadian insurance companies, supporting that in 2005 CGI were involved with even more than 17 of the top Canadian insurance companies, including owning Cooperators Insurance and being involved in a major partnership with ING Insurance.

If anyone was in a position to assist the Conservatives with the fraudulent $1 million dollar life insurance policy bribe made to Cadman it was the company known as CGI, and the evidence supports that CGI has a very significant relationship with Michael Fortier, Stephen Harper's, not elected but appointed by Harper, Minister of Public Works who has awarded many, many contracts to CGI and who CGI is a former major client of as the evidence below proves. And further consider that Michael Fortier was the Conservative campaign co-chair for the 2004 and 2006 federal elections and co-chair of Stephen Harper's leadership caimpain in 2003, as well as being a former president of the PC party of Canada. And further has reported to being friends with Stephen Harper. See links below...

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/new ... c8&k=77897

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?cont ... 3834_11400

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/parli ... binet.html

http://www.prleap.com/pr/103432/

http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?cont ... 925_122925

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... tory/Front


"Michael Fortier, minister of public works and government services
Senator
Michael Fortier was the Conservative campaign co-chair for the 2004 and 2006 federal elections and was co-chair of Stephen Harper’s leadership campaign in 2003. A lawyer and financier in Montreal, Fortier was the president of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada during the 1990s and lost a bid for the leadership. He also lost when he ran for the Progressive Conservatives in the 2000 election in the riding of Laval West, Que. He is a co-chair of the 2006 national campaign for the Conservative party."

"An Ottawa IT contractor is calling for an inquiry into the preliminary award of a $400-million contract to Montreal-based CGI Group Inc., a former client of Public Works Minister Michael Fortier from his days as an investment banker."


Something important to note is that CGI have major contracts with the RCMP and we have clear evidence proving the RCMP have unethically assisted CGI in covering up CGI's criminal activities, including fraud/doctoring government records to obstruct justice which we have the evidence to prove, with no exaggeration, so you need to consider this when considering the RCMP's investigation of the Cadman allegations.

So, you have Kelley's <b>word</b> that CGI and the court and probabally the RCMP are dirty. No surprise there, I believe her as well. But <b>proof</b> the Conservatives are? The CPC are not the Conservative Party of Alberta, any more than the CPC is the Progressive Conservative Party they try to make people think they are by calling themselves 'Tories'.

The Liberal Party did nothing for her ethier. Is this evidence of their corruption?

Further consider, as the evidence released publicly proves, that Harper admitted to the author of the book about Cadman, Tom Zytaruk, as the audio tape proves, that the Conservatives did make offers to Cadman for his support.

Then consider what kind of offer would have had meaning to a terminally ill, dying man...certainly not a job offer of any kind and the Conservatives involved couldn't just pay Cadman off for his support or it would leave a trail of evidence.

But the offer of a $1 million dollar life insurance policy to Cadman, a dying man, that would take care of his family after he was gone, most likely one of the few things he was concerned with at the point he was at, which CGI certainly was in the position to arrange and assist in the issuing of and then the pay out of and in covering up that it was fraudulent, that would leave no evidence of the connection to the bribe made by the Conservatives, was the ideal bribe to offer a dying man while covering up that any bribe or pay out occurred, and if Cadman had chosen to sign the fraudulent policy he would have immediately been an accessory to this crime which would ensure he kept quiet, and then his family would have received the benefits of this deal which would have ensured their silence if they had any knowledge of this deal.

Just some evidence to be considered.