6 Questions About Cadman

Posted on Wednesday, March 05 at 08:33 by N Say
2. What did Stephen Harper mean when he said in a 2005 interview that "an offer" that included "financial considerations" was made to Cadman?
  • Conservative party spokesman Ryan Sparrow said Monday the offer Cadman mentioned in a TV interview was a repayable loan to the local riding association.

3. If Tory officials Tom Flanagan and Doug Finley offered a repayable loan, what was the amount and what were the terms of repayment?

  • No answer.

4. Why did the Prime Minister's Office and the Conservatives first deny an offer had been made to Cadman, only to later say a repayable loan was offered?

  • No answer.

5. Why didn't Harper reveal last week that he told Dona Cadman more than two years ago that he didn't know about the alleged life-insurance offer?

  • No answer.

6. What motivation would Dona Cadman, a Tory candidate in her husband's former riding, have to fabricate a story about the life-insurance offer?

  • No answer.

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  1. by crh
    Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:10 pm
    just another example of dirty politicians...wanna be a politician? Leave your integrity at the door when you come in

  2. Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:20 pm
    "Nsay" said
    I've got my own question: How could a guy who was terminally ill get a $1000000 life insurance plan?


    It's called self-insuring. Put $1m in a bank account, payable upon a person's death.

    Many big companies do it. For example, if you have a corporate fleet of vehicles, you put $10M in trust against liability for vehicles in your fleet. You self-insure your own vehicles, earning interest instead of paying insurance premiums to do it.

  3. Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:17 pm
    Yes many large companies are self insured---GM, Ford etc come to mind.
    My question is why certain elements would engage in these allegation with only hearsay? Making such allegations in the HOUSE may allow you to skate but outside---bend over and assume the position.

  4. Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:37 pm
    "crh" said
    just another example of dirty politicians...wanna be a politician? Leave your integrity at the door when you come in
    Not true Chuck Cadman for one was a strait shooter and there are many more. It is just the slime buckets that get headlines.

    It is and old adage. Bad news sells papers, good new gets buried below the fold.

  5. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:08 pm
    If anyone was in a position to assist the Conservatives with the fraudulent $1 million dollar life insurance policy bribe made to Cadman it was the company known as CGI, and the evidence supports that CGI had and continues to have a very significant relationship with Michael Fortier, Stephen Harper's, not elected but appointed by Harper, Minister of Public Works who has awarded many, many contracts to CGI and who CGI is a former major client of as the evidence below proves. And further consider that Michael Fortier was the Conservative campaign co-chair for the 2004 and 2006 federal elections and co-chair of Stephen Harper's leadership caimpain in 2003, as well as being a former president of the PC party of Canada. And further has reported to being friends with Stephen Harper. See links below...

    http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/new ... c8&k=77897

    http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?cont ... 3834_11400

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/parli ... binet.html

    http://www.prleap.com/pr/103432/

    http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?cont ... 925_122925

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... tory/Front


    "Michael Fortier, minister of public works and government services
    Senator
    Michael Fortier was the Conservative campaign co-chair for the 2004 and 2006 federal elections and was co-chair of Stephen Harper’s leadership campaign in 2003. A lawyer and financier in Montreal, Fortier was the president of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada during the 1990s and lost a bid for the leadership. He also lost when he ran for the Progressive Conservatives in the 2000 election in the riding of Laval West, Que. He is a co-chair of the 2006 national campaign for the Conservative party."

    "An Ottawa IT contractor is calling for an inquiry into the preliminary award of a $400-million contract to Montreal-based CGI Group Inc., a former client of Public Works Minister Michael Fortier from his days as an investment banker."

    Something important to note is that CGI have major contracts with the RCMP and we have clear evidence proving the RCMP have unethically assisted CGI in covering up CGI's criminal activities, including fraud/doctoring government records to obstruct justice which we have the evidence to prove, with no exaggeration, so you need to consider this when considering the RCMP's investigation of the Cadman allegations.
    Do you remember the inappropriate investigation that was initiated by the RCMP right before the election that is believed to have swayed the vote in the Tories favour, that was dropped after?

    Further consider, as the evidence released publicly proves, that Harper admitted to the author of the book about Cadman, Tom Zytaruk, as the audio tape proves, that the Conservatives did make offers to Cadman for his support.

    Then consider what kind of offer would have had meaning to a terminally ill, dying man...certainly not a job offer of any kind and the Conservatives involved couldn't just pay Cadman off for his support or it would leave a trail of evidence.

    But the offer of a $1 million dollar life insurance policy to Cadman, a dying man, that would take care of his family after he was gone, most likely one of the few things he was concerned with at the point he was at, which CGI certainly was in the position to arrange and assist in the issuing of and then the pay out of and in covering up that it was fraudulent, that would leave no evidence of the connection to the bribe made by the Conservatives, was the ideal bribe to offer a dying man while covering up that any bribe or pay out occurred, and if Cadman had chosen to sign the fraudulent policy he would have immediately been an accessory to this crime which would ensure he kept quiet, and then his family would have received the benefits of this deal which would have ensured their silence if they had any knowledge of this deal.

    If you are looking for CGI's motives for fraudulently and unethically assisting Harper in getting elected, including the assisting with the fraudulent million dollar life insurance policy offer made to Cadman...the evidence supports there are many but look no further than Harper appointing, (as he was not elected), Fortier as Public Works Minister, which Harper now has done, and Fortier awarding 100's of millions, if not billions of dollars in government contracts to CGI, as the evidence I have provided and that exists supports Fortier now has done, which implicates Fortier and Harper of further improper conduct, but also implicates Harper as being involved in the Cadman bribe by his choice to position Fortier to directly assist his former major client CGI in obtaining extensive lucrative contracts which the evidence supports other have seriously questioned considering the conflict of interest as the links I have posted prove.

    Fortier left his position in the private sector that earned him $1 million a year to take the position Harper appointed him for, when again he was not elected, that perfectly positioned him to significantly serve the interests of his former major client CGI, and both Fortier and Harper have publicly reported and acknowledged they are friends going back to before this appointment. The evidence documented in the media is that many questioned the appointment of Fortier and that he was a surprising choice and that Harper making this choice and appointing Fortier as a senator when he was not elected directly conflicted with Harper's compaign promise that he was against a senate that was not elected and planned to take action to change this.

    Harper going directly against what he reported publicly to appoint Fortier supports a very significant relationship with Fortier.

    The evidence very strongly suggests it is very likely that Fortier was one of the people that approached Cadman with the million dollar life insurance policy pay out offer.

    Many also might find it shocking to know CGI had a contract position with Elections Canada and extremely extensive other government contracts that place them in very serious conflict of interest positions that are not in the best interest of Canadians

  6. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:14 pm
    There is no reason of any kind to support questioning what Cadman himself reported, especically consider the evidence proving him to be a man of integrity, or for questioning what Tom Zytaruk reported, or what Cadman's widow and daughter and son and law have reported and all have clearly reported that the conservatives made the offer of a fraudulent $1 million dollar life insurance policy pay out to Cadman's family if he supported them.

    When you put all the substantial evidence together it adds up perfectly, including evidence of motives for all, and implicates not only the conservatives but also Harper and his cabinet. The evidence supports that Canadians have been convicted of murder based on less then the significant circumstancial evidence I have posted under this article, as it is rare to get first hand witness evidence ever in serious crimes like this.

  7. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:15 pm
    correction members of his cabinet, including Fortier.

  8. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:30 pm
    I have a document, that I will provide to anyone who requests to see it or may still be available on line that documents the company known as CGI reporting that they represented 17 of the top 25 insurance companies in Canada in 2002, including policy administration and handling all their claims. Proving that CGI, closely associated with Fortier, the man Harper personally appointed as Minister of Public works,were perfectly positioned to assist the conservatives in the bribe they made to Cadman, and to arrange it and see it through and cover it up. Then consider the offer was made in 2005 and that the evidence supports that CGI has grown rapidly since this time supporting that they are involved with even more insurance companies, including now owning Cooperators Insurance and being involved in a major partnership with ING Insurance, further supporting that in July 2005 CGI was perfectly positioned to assist with this corrupt and fraudulent offer made to Cadman, and in fact considering the evidence, it is very unlikely the conservatives could have made this offer to Cadman without CGI's assistance since CGI handle all the claims for Canadian insurance companies.

  9. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:53 pm
    What good would offering a repayable loan to a dying man do...that suggestion is ridiculous and can not be believed.

  10. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:57 pm
    Harper and his party also denied the allegations made by Riddell about their bribing him with $50,000 and then them turning around and not paying him and lying about why he withdrew, but a judge ruled the evidence supported the version of events Riddell reported and not what the Conservatives reported, proving you can't trust a word the conservatives say and that they have a history of unethical behavior, including making bribes to manipulate the vote and to obtain power and about lying about it.

  11. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:01 pm
    Harper and his party also denied the allegations made by Riddell about their bribing him with $50,000 and then them turning around and not paying him and lying about why he withdrew, but a judge ruled the evidence supported the version of events Riddell reported and not what the Conservatives reported, proving you can't trust a word the conservatives say and that they have a history of unethical behavior, including making bribes to manipulate the vote and to obtain power and about lying about it.

  12. by avatar Scout
    Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:11 pm
    I've got my own question: How could a guy who was terminally ill get a $1000000 life insurance plan?


    It's called self-insuring. Put $1m in a bank account, payable upon a person's death.

    Many big companies do it. For example, if you have a corporate fleet of vehicles, you put $10M in trust against liability for vehicles in your fleet. You self-insure your own vehicles, earning interest instead of paying insurance premiums to do it.

    Dr Caleb, There is no evidence that I have seen or heard supporting that what you have written above was the nature of the offer made to Cadman...the evidence I have posted is far more consistent with the information that has been reported and the evidence.

  13. Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:07 pm
    "Scout" said

    Dr Caleb, There is no evidence that I have seen or heard supporting that what you have written above was the nature of the offer made to Cadman...the evidence I have posted is far more consistent with the information that has been reported and the evidence.


    I see nowhere that I said that it was, or had anything to do with the alleged offer to Cadman.

    I simply answered NSay's generic question on how someone with soon-to-be terminal cancer could get a life insurance policy.

  14. Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:51 am
    And that way would be illegal. It's illegal to offer any MP compensation to vote a certain way.

    I do agree though, Doc. Self-insuring...or in this case the Conservatives self-insuring Cadman...is the only way he'd get coverage. The MP insurance the government provides is about two years wages...about $300,000 in Cadman's case. They can continue coverage after they get de-elected, but the premiums go up and the coverage goes down. No insurance company is going to write million dollar policy on a man with cancer unless they exempt cancer or related causes from the policy, making it useless. The Conservative Party's corporate insurance is only available to party workers, not elected members, according to what they themselves have said.

    What it comes down to is either the Conservative were offering a bribe through a self-insurance scheme, or they were offering to commit insurance fraud in order to offer a bribe.

    Unless you think they thought a man with terminal cancer...a man they'd already denied the nomination to once because he wouldn't accede to Harper's megalomania...was going to run again. Everybody else in Canada knew Cadman was done, how can the Harperites claim to have missed it?



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