MAY IS BACK IN!

Posted on Wednesday, September 10 at 14:58 by RickW

“I can't wait until there is no Green party,” Dr. Suzuki was quoted as telling the Toronto Star.

“As long as there's a Green party, the implication is that the Greens somehow have a stranglehold on this issue; they're the ones that worry about the environment so the other parties can worry about other things. I don't think it's a ghetto subject.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080910.welxngreens0910/BNStory/politics/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20080910.welxngreens0910


David Suzuki has commited a major faux pas here. The Greens DO have a stranglehold on environmental issues, because their entire platform is built from that springboard. The other parties treat things environmental strictly as 'options', to be trotted out and/or (and sometimes especially)discarded on a whim.

As for the Leaders' Debate, it seems Elizabeth May will be appearing after all.

What however, does that say about the leadership abilities of either Harper or Layton -- but especially Harper.  Do we want a leader who "shoots from the hip"?
 

 

 

 

 

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  1. Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:32 pm
    Who really cares what Suzuki has to say? He's a UN loving eugenist and global warming hoax promoter. Any party in power is better than the three who are one. The Green party, although I haven't taken the time to research them thoroughly, wouldn't surprise me to find they back the hoax as well and are all for the carbon tax.

  2. Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:13 pm
    While I much disagree with the view that the Greens have a stranglehold on anything with, in fact, a more Liberal Party to small l "liberal-centric" view of planetary and other social issues, still, if we are going to have vanguardist parties at all, better a plethora of them than a limited monopoly. (The absolute worst situation we could have, at this point in time, as "the system" shows renewed signs of collapse and a desire to return to a"strong", read more "dictatorial" governance regime of old, is to have an absolute majority governance regime of any one of them. Frankly, I prefer the current more "dynamic flux" situation of the present, especially as it evolves into more insecurity and questioning of capitalist asssumptions about the world, people and societies.)

    Better for the planets environment and for mankind however, no less here in Canada, that this fragmentation of loyalty to the established order process should continue to evolve into, as an initial development at least, the evolution of a dynamic and powerful people's democracy of the streets. From there into a struggle for new forms of democracy within the economy, its enterprise institutions, and the state. And better yet, free of vanguard elitist "parties" per se, or in the absence of that possibility, or in the absence of that practical reality, especially in the early stages of a "new emerging reality", many more "parties/groups" than even now, creating a flush of new socio-political and economic ideas, and fluid alliance creations around the central theme of creating a new reality, including a new "Green" reality.

    I, for one, agree with Suzuki at least that much: No, the Greens do not have any kind of a monopoly lock on environmental issues, any more than they do on social, political or economic analyses and issues. It is only the natural arrogance nature of elitist vanguard "parties" as with all others that would perhaps even make them, or elements of their party, think so.

    As for the wingnut "denier" above me here, the ground is already moving beneath their feet. They have no lock on anything, let alone relevance, as "the system" moves ever deeper into the manifold crises of their own creation.

  3. Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:19 pm
    Let me guess, you're one of those people who believes fire brought down the twin towers, that 2 planes took down three buildings. Make fun of me all you want but not without using the tried and true catchall phrase tinfoil hat in your dialogue.

    We clear, slave? Now go back to sucking your thumbs. <--(see? that's how it's done)

  4. Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:56 pm
    From: Environmental Studies Association of Canada List
    On Behalf Of Randolph Haluza-DeLay
    Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:36 AM
    To: ESAC-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
    Subject: Legal Decision: Threat of global warming justifies
    breaking the law

    News Item:

    The threat of global warming is so great that campaigners were justified in
    causing more than ?35,000 worth of damage to a coal-fired power station, a
    jury decided yesterday. In a verdict that will have shocked politicians and
    energy companies the jury at Maidstone Crown Court (United Kingdom) cleared
    six Greenpeace activists of criminal damage.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... ry-decides
    -that--925561.html

    Say no more. Say no more. Eh? Wot?

    As for 911, though the so-called "tinfoil" analyses of many respectable Engineering Associations and individuals that don't buy into the "official" explanations is impressive, and certainly has to be taken into account in the degree to which anyone buys into, and becomes a "true believer" in "the system's" explanations, basically, in the interim I "more or less" accept them-, for now. That said, I do not discount in the least the capacity of the political minions for US Empire, and its bootlick states like Canada, for any deceit or treachery.

    Eventually, even if not in my life time, I accept that much will be revealed-, as in the sinking of the Lusitania that was designed, there is great credible evidence for, to bring the US into the 1st World War on the side of Great Britain. Or later, in events leading to the Second World War, the Nazi torching of the Reichstag, the German Parliament, and blaming the Communists, in order to legitimize the outlawing of the German Communist Party.

    Official treachery, especially justifying wars and wars of imperialism (remember the lying justifications for the war in Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911), is not an unknown element in the real, often unwritten history of at least many States in the world. Better one be, at the very least, cynical of such "official" explanations, than to be a mindlessly naive "true believer", such as some that one encounters even here. What they lack in credible intellectual prowess, they typically seek to make up for with rightist bluster.

    Even many of us mere politically conscious "wage slaves" know that much over true believer, brownshirt blusterers, it would seem, eh? :-)

  5. Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:59 pm
    You might find this at least interesting, even marginally worthy of considering in what you choose "to believe" and "not believe", our blustering tinfoil hat.

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

  6. Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:37 pm
    Hahaha...someone has been listening to Alex Jones... :p

  7. Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:11 pm
    Ummm, May. Elizabeth. Canadian Political leader.

    September 11th stuff goes here:

    http://www.canadaka.net/forums/us-polit ... 21142.html

  8. by RickW
    Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:26 am
    I for one am hoping we end up with an "Italian" Parliament, or maybe an "Israeli Knesset"..........



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