“I can't wait until there is no Green party,” Dr. Suzuki was quoted as telling the Toronto Star.
“As long as there's a Green party, the implication is that the Greens somehow have a stranglehold on this issue; they're the ones that worry about the environment so the other parties can worry about other things. I don't think it's a ghetto subject.
David Suzuki has commited a major faux pas here. The Greens DO have a stranglehold on environmental issues, because their entire platform is built from that springboard. The other parties treat things environmental strictly as 'options', to be trotted out and/or (and sometimes especially)discarded on a whim.
As for the Leaders' Debate, it seems Elizabeth May will be appearing after all.
What however, does that say about the leadership abilities of either Harper or Layton -- but especially Harper. Do we want a leader who "shoots from the hip"?

Better for the planets environment and for mankind however, no less here in Canada, that this fragmentation of loyalty to the established order process should continue to evolve into, as an initial development at least, the evolution of a dynamic and powerful people's democracy of the streets. From there into a struggle for new forms of democracy within the economy, its enterprise institutions, and the state. And better yet, free of vanguard elitist "parties" per se, or in the absence of that possibility, or in the absence of that practical reality, especially in the early stages of a "new emerging reality", many more "parties/groups" than even now, creating a flush of new socio-political and economic ideas, and fluid alliance creations around the central theme of creating a new reality, including a new "Green" reality.
I, for one, agree with Suzuki at least that much: No, the Greens do not have any kind of a monopoly lock on environmental issues, any more than they do on social, political or economic analyses and issues. It is only the natural arrogance nature of elitist vanguard "parties" as with all others that would perhaps even make them, or elements of their party, think so.
As for the wingnut "denier" above me here, the ground is already moving beneath their feet. They have no lock on anything, let alone relevance, as "the system" moves ever deeper into the manifold crises of their own creation.
We clear, slave? Now go back to sucking your thumbs. <--(see? that's how it's done)
On Behalf Of Randolph Haluza-DeLay
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:36 AM
To: ESAC-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Legal Decision: Threat of global warming justifies
breaking the law
News Item:
The threat of global warming is so great that campaigners were justified in
causing more than ?35,000 worth of damage to a coal-fired power station, a
jury decided yesterday. In a verdict that will have shocked politicians and
energy companies the jury at Maidstone Crown Court (United Kingdom) cleared
six Greenpeace activists of criminal damage.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... ry-decides
-that--925561.html
Say no more. Say no more. Eh? Wot?
As for 911, though the so-called "tinfoil" analyses of many respectable Engineering Associations and individuals that don't buy into the "official" explanations is impressive, and certainly has to be taken into account in the degree to which anyone buys into, and becomes a "true believer" in "the system's" explanations, basically, in the interim I "more or less" accept them-, for now. That said, I do not discount in the least the capacity of the political minions for US Empire, and its bootlick states like Canada, for any deceit or treachery.
Eventually, even if not in my life time, I accept that much will be revealed-, as in the sinking of the Lusitania that was designed, there is great credible evidence for, to bring the US into the 1st World War on the side of Great Britain. Or later, in events leading to the Second World War, the Nazi torching of the Reichstag, the German Parliament, and blaming the Communists, in order to legitimize the outlawing of the German Communist Party.
Official treachery, especially justifying wars and wars of imperialism (remember the lying justifications for the war in Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911), is not an unknown element in the real, often unwritten history of at least many States in the world. Better one be, at the very least, cynical of such "official" explanations, than to be a mindlessly naive "true believer", such as some that one encounters even here. What they lack in credible intellectual prowess, they typically seek to make up for with rightist bluster.
Even many of us mere politically conscious "wage slaves" know that much over true believer, brownshirt blusterers, it would seem, eh?
http://www.ae911truth.org/
September 11th stuff goes here:
http://www.canadaka.net/forums/us-polit ... 21142.html