A Reluctance To Spend May Be A Legacy Of The Recession

Posted on Saturday, August 29 at 14:28 by RickW

Even as evidence mounts that the Great Recession has finally released its chokehold on the American economy, experts worry that the recovery may be weak, stymied by consumers’ reluctance to spend.

Given that consumer spending has in recent years accounted for 70 percent of the nation’s economic activity, a marginal shrinking could significantly depress demand for goods and services, discouraging businesses from hiring more workers.

“Lower-income households can’t borrow, and higher-income households no longer feel wealthy,” Mr. Zandi (chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com) added. “There’s still a lot of debt out there. It throws a pall over the potential for a strong recovery. The economy is going to struggle.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/29/business/economy/29consumer.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

Why is the "New Normal" so difficult to even acknowledge, never mind embrace? It's as though everyone is waiting for the "old ways" to return -- rather than encouraging, supporting, and bolstering this apparent 90 degree shift in the American Way of Life.

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  1. Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:17 pm
    What these fools don;t realize is that when the spending goes up, so does pollution, depletion and the self destruction of the human race, buried in garbage, chemicals in the bloodstreams and hospitals bursting with epidemics that didn't exist before.

    Ed Deak.

  2. by Benn
    Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:54 pm
    "Fiatlux" said
    What these fools don;t realize is that when the spending goes up, so does pollution, depletion and the self destruction of the human race, buried in garbage, chemicals in the bloodstreams and hospitals bursting with epidemics that didn't exist before.

    Ed Deak.



    That's why they make the "circulation" button for the AC in the SUVs. So you don't have to deal with the pollution while hauling back the new 62 inch plasma!

    Recovery!? Take your time, I like my variable mortgage rate at 1.7%, pretty soon the bank will be paying me to live at my place :mrgreen:

  3. by RickW
    Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:54 pm
    "Fiatlux" said
    What these fools don;t realize is that when the spending goes up, so does pollution, depletion and the self destruction of the human race, buried in garbage, chemicals in the bloodstreams and hospitals bursting with epidemics that didn't exist before.

    NIMBY, Ed. The human race by-and-large, can't see (or smell) beyond it's proverbial nose. It may have worked t one point in our early history, but the long-range effects we are beginning to have on the biosphere are demanding we think at least http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_Minutes_into_the_Future

    And I don't knowe if we are capable of even that..........certainly the rightwingnuts aren't.

  4. Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:59 pm
    Even as evidence mounts that the Great Recession has finally released its chokehold on the American economy, experts worry that the recovery may be weak, stymied by consumers’ reluctance to spend.


    That, and a soggy commercial property market, high unemployment, spending cut backs by states and municipalities, slow investment by the business sector and retaliation by other countries to the Buy America policies.

  5. by RickW
    Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:01 pm
    spending cut backs by states and municipalities
    While at the same time posting record deficits........

  6. Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:50 pm
    Given that ones personal environmental impact is determined by how much one spends, I wish that were true. Unfortunately, when the price of gas dropped , people dove right back into their big vehicles,and SUVs became the status symbol again.Consumer memories are very short.
    Brent

  7. by RickW
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:42 am
    [quote="Brent Swain"]Consumer memories are very short./quote]
    The way cosumers are so Pavlovian in their reactions, I'd say this entire environmental thing is a charade.

    Are we really so stupid and short-sighted (sheeple)that we actually need to be led to the "promised land" -- and once there have the fear of God's Green Gestapo put into us so we don't screw up and get kicked out of Eden the Sequel?

  8. by srfl
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:20 am
    We do seem to be that stupid, with a very short memory....we actually need to be herded forcefully to the real "promised land" it seems, if there is such a thing. There is no one to do it. We are much more easily led into the valley of bankruptcies, breakups & debt, by false promises of those who are busy making their own promised land.

  9. by RickW
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:07 pm
    Then it would seem, we are doomed -- and we don't need no stinking comet to do it........
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rench.html

    Or this (from Harper's Weekly):
    A deaf, blind, 16-year-old dog named Louie died after being left alone for hours in the hot car of Robin Starr, CEO of the Richmond, Virginia, SPCA.

  10. by srfl
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:41 pm
    I think that through all this we will be purged of people such as that SPCA CEO. I should amend my comment above by saying that MANY if not MOST people will be led as "sheeple". However there will always be those who will not, and maybe...just maybe....our civilization in the future will be a better one.

  11. by RickW
    Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:32 am
    Ever the optimist, eh?

  12. Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:46 pm
    There is no doubt a huge human die off comming . Those with the greatest ablity to survive will be those least dependent on corprate infrastructure, and the most independent and self reliant, thus, those with the smallest environmental footprint.
    Brent

  13. by RickW
    Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:28 am
    Maybe -- but I think it was Robert Heinlein who opined that a gun was a great equalizer -- which makes independant people not as secure as one might think.....

  14. Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:25 pm
    Self reliant people in Canada are well armed. The priveledged will be waiting out side their supermarkets, waiting and guarding the useless while the self reliant are out fishing , hunting, and eating well. That happened in the last great depression.
    My father said those who went to the cites looking for work starved, while those who stayed out of town ate well.
    It will happen again.
    Brent



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