G20 Riots: Is The Black Bloc A Police Psyops Group?

To see absolute proof those that broke windows and caused damage during G20 protests were police or working with police watch this entire video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbLU9tdD ... re=related

More evidence proving G20 riot scenes staged by police...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0uHyBPR ... h_response

So how come all the Black Bloc guys after 3 mins in are wearing sneakers???
Matching boots available at any army navy store.

Yeah, I don't know what video you watched but clearly you are wrong...for example the guys on top of the police car had new black boots on just like the police were wearing, and you failed to explain why the under cover police were protecting select people coming from the direction of the riot, including some dressed exactly like the ones that caused the damage and were clearly threatening people with cameras to try and stop them from getting evidence documenting this fact. You further failed to explain why those causing the damage, while going to great lengths to disguise their identities, suggesting they feared getting caught, had absolutely no fear of the thousands of police officers present in the area or of being arrested, hanging around much longer than a real vandal would after causing damage to ensure lots of photos of them taken, even though no one would know who they were so no personal reason to take such a great risk, supporting it was actually police who concealed their identities to hide this fact. And you failed to explain why many videos online, including this one, shows the police saw what was happening, as they obviously must have, including on the cameras they installed, and stood back and let it happen without making any effort to arrest any of those causing the damage, as if they knew it was staged and were following the plan to allow it to happen so the media would get lots of photos falsely giving the impression that the G20 protests were violent and destructive, to justify the cost and extreme security measures taken and the extreme violation of rights by the police, when the evidence proves the true protesters were in fact very peaceful.

I'm not here to explain anything, look at the images after the 3 minute mark and they are wearing shoes not boots, and like I said those boots are available at any army navy.
Given that you think the Black Bloc was a police group sent in to start a riot I would say they failed because I didn't see anyone not wearing black smashing anything, so make no sence, but believe what you will, it's a free country (according to some)

What I find stupidest about the whole situation is that for months and months ahead internet advocacy and anarchist groups have been blowing their horns about going to TO to stir up shit and then afterwards the blame everything on the authorities, so they are saying it's ok to talk about it but they would never do it, they all need to grow up.

I should also add that given police have been accused of such in the past do you really think they would all wear department issued boots and make their involvement so obvious.
I could whip up a video at home, or edit one to show pretty much whatever I want. No one to date has EVER stated a vaild reason for police to start a riot either, theres no gain in it, especially these days with every dick everywhere pointing cameras at them.
Again no one addresses why only black clad people were filmed or photoed smashing things, if their goal was to start a riot they failed, the rest of the crowds sure didn't buy into it.

Honestly though, people will believe what they wish, those like you will believe it was them and look for reasons for it to be so, others will give the cops the benifit of the doubt and wonder what would have happened had no one showed up to protest, and why people have to shout their slogans to a building full of world leaders who don't really give a shit what the public opinion is.

It's important to point out that the video shows that the one dressed like one of the black bloc that the plain clothes police coming from the direction of the riot were protecting and the police in uniform let in the line without question and protected and clearly did not want anyone taking pictures of was wearing running shoes, proving your point to be completely without merit.

Pointing out that many of those responsible for causing the damage during the G20 protests had black boots just like the police was just one small peice of the abundant evidence supporting that the ones that caused the damage during the G20 protests were police or working with the police. It is logical that the police were concerned that if all of these undercover police wore regular shoes it would be easier to track them and connect the rioters to the police as they tried to escape the media and peaceful protesters and concerned citizens and rejoin the police as the video shows, as running shoes for example are much easier to positively identify than black boots. Also many of the so called black bloc at G20 used their black boots to cause damage, such as the ones kicking the police car, so those police issued black boots were needed to assist them with their mission. And maybe many of these police officers were just lazy and didn't want to bother bringing an extra pair of shoes or having to change their shoes for their destructive deceptive mission, since the evidence coming from many absolute sources proves many of the police working the G20 to be not capable of independent and intelligent thought and decision making and beyond arrogant.

As far as the lack of non-black bloc people causing damage...that doesn't prove or even reasonably argue that black bloc rioters were not the police or that they weren't hoping to inspire the protesters to join in and cause damage as well, it only proves more clearly that the protesters were in fact peaceful, lawabiding, intelligent people not responsible for the damage caused during the G20 and that this plan by police to get protesters to join in and cause damage with them failed as you pointed out, just part of the extreme failures on the part of the police during the G20 .

I saw no such messages on the Internet leading up to the G20, I only saw information about groups with valid concerns and causes planning legal, peaceful protests...so I don't know what sites you look at or what you're talking about.

The video I posted was clearly not edited, nice try. One has to question why you are trying so hard to argue despite not having any actual facts or evidence supporting your argument or disputing the actual facts and evidence.

I can easily give you many reasons why the police posed as black bloc and caused damage clearly meant for the media to capture to falsely suggest G20 protests and protesters were destructive and violent...HARPER and his gang took more than a billion dollars of Canadians money for his G20 party, and God knows what else, since it clearly was not all actually used for the G8 & G20, and attempted to use this deception to justify spending this extreme amount of money and where it all went. In fact HARPER and his gang spent more than a billion on security alone for the G20, which would have even looked worse to Canadians and the world if nothing but peaceful protests took place, so this deception by Harper & police serving Harper was to attempt to justify the extreme amount of Canadians money Harper and his gang took in the name of providing security for the G20.

The evidence further supports that Harper used this deception to try and justify violating the rights of Canadians/the protesters to send a clear message that things are changing in Canada and they better shut up and accept it or they will suffer the consequences, including police threatening protesters that if they ever attend a protest again they will be arrested and punished just for showing up...it's all part of Harper's/the new world plan to take over Canada and take control of Canadians and take away their/our rights and freedoms and democracy. This was just another taste to start forcing us to accept what is coming and to make the ones most likely to fight against it afraid to, and Canadians at home and watching afraid to even consider it. Seeing tens of thousands of police acting like Nazis marching around our streets intimidating people for no reason, being physically assaulted by them for no reason and arrested by them for no reason is scary. Then add to it innocent lawabiding citizens being stripped searched by these Nazi-like officers of the opposite sex, in front of many, people left in wet clothes, women's bras being taken away because they said they were weapons, and verbally harassed and some even threatened with rape by these Nazi-like police. Then add to it being put in a deliberately cold empty cage, over-crowded, without enough room to even sit on the floor for hours and hours, bare feet because they took your shoes away because they are considered weapons, sometimes without even a bathroom, or without toilet paper when there was a bathroom and your hands tightly handcuffed for 24 hours, unable to wipe yourself if you have to go. They did everything they could to degrade and punish innocent people. And without a phone call, water or food, etc...Harper sent a very clear message to all those Canadians who had the integrity, committment and courage to stand up and speak out for what they believed in and legally protest...it was that if you do protest against him or anything he does he will make sure you suffer and that you will be threatened and abused or worse for doing so. This is how it starts people, are you going to take it and give up your rights and freedoms and quality of life, or are you going to stand up and speak out and fight back against it before it is too late.

Canadians have the legal right to assemble and peacefully protest, it is not for you or anyone to question their right to exercise their guaranteed rights as Canadian citizens, and the police at the G20 violated the protesters and many others rights and the law in Canada. What if Harper and his thugs showed up at your home, beat you and your family and kicked you and your family out of your own home and took possession of everything you own, including the money you have in the bank...would you want other Canadians to care, to stand up for you and speak out for you and fight against this injustice against you a Canadian citizen, or would it be okay with you if they all just did what you suggest and turned their backs on you and your family and took the position it didn't happen to them so it doesn't matter and the police and government should be allowed to do whatever they want even if it's against the law or violates the rights of Canadian citizens?

Look, I'm not trying to discredit you or your opinions, merely pointing out that video evidence can be quite deceptive and flawed if presented from a different point of view.
Like I said, those boots are widely available and in fact favored by punks and anarchists all over, you can get a pair for about $40 at an army navy store. Backpacks and such don't really say much either since 100's of the legitimate protesters also carried them, nor does 1 guy dressed in black getting past the police lines signify much because almost everyone in the shot was looking towards the camera, I find it hard to believe that a cop would knowingly dress up to start a riot then run to cover before changing (when it is clear that changing clothes was part of the plan)

I and many others firmly disagree with your opinions of the evidence. It is a proven fact that the police have pulled this scam before, and in Canada, and have proclaimed to the public that they have, so suggesting they wouldn't and have no valid reason to is unreasonable. The behavior of the police displayed in the video I posted and many, many others clearly supports my position and the position of many others, including those that made the video I posted, that the black bloc at the G20 protests were in fact the police. Some people choose to be willfully blind, some people lie because they have some reason to lie but I and many others choose to consider the facts and evidence and be honest about it, as distasteful as it is.

By the way, maybe the cop dressed up as a black bloc that the police clearly protected and allowed through the line without question was being followed by the media or protesters or citizens with cameras because of his unlawful actions and was unable to change as planned as the others did...that makes much more sense then your discounting this evidence without explaining why the police protected him and so aggressively fought to try and stop the media and bystanders from taking his picture and documenting the police protecting a number of people that came from the direction of the riot, without questioning them, as if they knew who they were and it was all part of the plan.

In counterpoint many others diagree with the idea that these were police, 73% of the public in TO believe the police were justified in their tactics.
You assume because I am expressing another point of view that I am being blind when all your opinions are is your interpretation of the video, I haven't even disagreed with you actually, only stated that boots can be bought anywhere.

I myself wasn't there, but I can tell you that if I had proof of the police inciting a riot I wouldn't stop at putting it on you tube.

What bugs me the most is people who post daming evidence online and leave it at that, as if this or any other forum is going to a) stop a repeat of this performance or b) cause those responsable to be accountable for their actions. Too many people claim to be enilightened and don't actually do anything but mistrust anyone else with a varying opinion.

So in closing, the many others like you are doing what exactly??? Posting debatable evidence online and writing your opinion on it, or banding together to actually fight for accountability.... I rest my case