Ottawa Seeks Chinese Investors

Keep China out of the Tar Sands. Remember the good old days when the Bank of Canada created money rather than debt? Sure we need investment, but to do this just after CSIS announces that our universities are infiltrated with spies from China already stealing Canadian technology is ridiculous. Not to mention the human rights implications.

Is it just me or is globalization a ruse, and every country is really acting nationally except Canada.

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

Winston Churchill

Canada is unique in that it has huge stores of various resources, so our government does the easy thing by selling us out and lining their pockets. Martin and co. have no vision for Canada. Countries with much less wealth than Canada can maintain a strong military, health care, and post secondary education. But our government merely chooses to lie and tell us that we can`t afford this or that.

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Dave Ruston

Hi Dave. So why would the Canadian business class not want to protect Canadian markets and uaw the resources, instead of selling them? Shortsightedness, stupidity, short-term thinking, or something more sinister?

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

Winston Churchill

Also, wouldn't the foreign ownership of the economy be one reason the push is for continentalism? MAny of Tom D'Aquino's guys on the ceocouncil.ca site are branch-plant CEOs, not Canadian CEOs.

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

Winston Churchill

No, that's wrong; this is the break we've been waiting for. First a political relationship with China (already done), then an econonimc one (in progress, as reported), then a military alliance. At that point we cancel NAFTA, close the border to prevent our resources and manufactured products from going south and their shoddy goods from coming north, and announce that we have Chinese nukes on Canadian soil pointed at the 25 largest US cities. Bingo, end of American hubris!

Hi, perturbed, how`s it going? Yeah, since corporations want to control everything, they need henchmen and puppets to ensure that their one sided agenda gets rammed through. So naturally, CEO`s get paid quite well to fall in line with this. People in government are also paid off under the table to pass legislation that is corporate friendly, such as Mike Harris` bit which now allows for scabs to cross pickets lines. ( Before it was illegal in Ontario for scabs to cross the line.) And of course, other acts, or trade agreements like NAFTA`s chapter 11, where governments can be sued by corporations for lost profits. I mean, what sane government with the people`s best interest at heart would agree to something like this? And there are other countless examples. And yet sometimes, politicians just lack the backbone to stand up to these vampires, and sometimes, their fear is well founded. I think that there is a genuine possibility of reprisal in North America, let alone banana republics! So yes, continentalism and globalization focuses on a North American and global marketplace where only the wealthy, or 'lifestyle' market receives any consideration. The rest of us, well, they don`t care if we lose a good paying job after 20 years in a factory, or if we can`t afford to send our kids to school, or if an African starves. Shrinking competition, more oligopoly/ monopoly, to the point of, 'you will buy what we say you will buy, at the price we say, no matter what.' And of course, the wealthy in Canada and Africa play along. Anyone who acquires substantial power that objects, well, that`s what the US military is for! They are the corporate army, not the US army! Shortsighted? Yes! Are these people like Martin and Mulroney stupid? No. They know what they are doing. They just don`t care who they do it to.

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Dave Ruston

Hey Dave, O'm okay.....I still think that we don't have enough information....nobody is talking about Germany or Norway disappearing, so the question as to why our business community sells out is a very complicated thing.....maybe they didn't get enough Canadian history in school either.

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

Winston Churchill

I love it, but so far the deals with China have been very bad for most people: domestic treatment for Chinese and Canadian investors in both countries. And all China wants is our oil--there is no news on job creation here.

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

Winston Churchill

I love it, too. Of course there will be some downside, but if it only hurts Chinese and Canadian investors, then it is certainly worth it to see Uncle Sam get his nose out of joint just ‘cause we can eliminate the States with the push of a button. And remember, the wind pattern is generally west-to-east, so the fallout goes over the Atlantic.

Juse to clarify, I've said stuff like this in the past, but do you honestly think the spunless Canadian government would ever do that?

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter --

Winston Churchill

No, I don't. Remember that Ottawa routinely throws a little money at our armed forces -- just enough to make the papers, but not enough to accomplish anything. (The submarine fiasco is the best example: purchasing obsolete and unusable hulls and asking our young men to take them across the Atlantic in the winter!) Our renowned Canadian attitude of accomodating, tolerating and even encouraging alternate points of view unfortunately also keeps us from making up our minds, much less taking action.

Perturbed, Germany and Norway actually have governments that care about their own people! And an integrated Europe is not a threat to any European country, given that there`s not one dominating power that can steamroll the rest. You don`t have to worry about France imposing its will on the Netherlands, or the Czechs imposing themselves on Slovakia. They are separate and distinct, yet united in a unique friendship. North America is quite different from Europe. The USA doesn`t care what Mexicans, Canadians, Cubans, or Nicaraguans think. They want it all their way, or no way. All the more reason why we should not align or integrate.

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Dave Ruston

You folks are more sunk more deeply in bitterness and envy than I thought. Allies with a regime that slaughtered 35 million people in its founding -- is that what you really want? And this just to get the US to notice you. Sad, really sad. Wouldn't continued unimportance be a far better fate than linking your future with a blood-soaked authoritarian state that will commit further murder?