Double Standard

Sorry man. I don't think anyone is right in Isreal.<p> Palestinians kill women and children too. The UN amends resolutions put foreward by Isreal to the point where they stop being about the rights of Isreali children, and become a condemnation of Isreal.<p> Palestinians put military installations in civillian populations. This is against the Geneva Conventions because Palestinian women and children die when these installations are attacked. If these installations are not removed - Isreali women and children die. The PLO continues to do this, because killing Isrealis is OK, and Palestinian deaths make Isreal look bad.<p> It's a no win situation.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

Perhaps the UN made a mistake in 1948, and it is still costing lives and spilling blood.

I have seen it elsewhere, that we will not see peace in the middle east in our lifetimes.

I go back to that comment by Sharon, about the "Israelis owning the US, and there is nothing they can do about it".

That was bad news and I don't see any daylight at the end of the tunnel.



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Totally agree, 4Canada. The Palestinians been robbed of far too much. I`ve suggested it before, but of course, these things are always easier said than done, but I think that the Israelis and Palestinians can only find peace if they come to an agreement to call the country Israel-Palestine, or Palestine-Israel, depending on who you are, and guarantee equal rights to all citizens of the state be they Palestinians, Jews, Israelis, Muslims, or Martians for that matter. All citizens must be able to have equal access to property ownership. Palestinians living on land that their great grandfathers and grandmothers owned should not have to worry about being kicked off. Conversely, Isrealis shouldn`t have to worry about being blown up on a bus. Social and economic justice will quell this fire. And as the US is on their rant about weapons of mass destruction, Israel is the only middle eastern country to posess nukes. All of this aid going from the US to Israel should also find its way to helping Palestinians too. Many Jews even agree that the policies of Ariel Sharon are wrong and counter productive to the possibility of peace.

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That article is garbage. The Palestinians have chosen their fate and continue to choose it with every suicide killer they send into Isreal. Arafat stated in the early 1970's that he wanted to 'push the Jews into the sea' and he hasn't changed his tune one bit, when the accord was worked out giving the Palestinians 95% of what they wanted - Arafat walked away and re-ignited the intifada instead. Any honest person knows full well that if Isreal decided to disarm the Jews would be slaughtered again, the Arabs have pushed the Jews out of every country in the Middle East by threat of violence - and now the Arabs are using the Palestinians to try and do the rest of their dirty work. The fact that Arafat has crafted a social atmosphere where children embrace death and rat out their parents for not supporting his death squads is a testament to the moral bankruptcy of Palestinian leadership.

"Palestinians put military installations in civillian populations." <br><br> How much territory did Israel leave them to put them in? <br><br> Have a look at a map of the <b>occupied</b> West Bank. BTW it is illegal under international law under international law to build settlements on occupied territories. But who cares? <b>Might makes right?</b> <br><br> Chomski called it the 'cantonisation' of a possible (???) Palestinian homeland. <br><br> I suppose they also put military installations in the Gaza zoo that the Israelis destroyed. They -like Iraqi WMDs- just can't be found. <br><br> I do agree however that the region is inhabited mainly by a bunch of lunatics. <br><br> Do you remember who the original agressor is?

<i>How much territory did Israel leave them to put them in?</i><p> The PLO declared war on Isreal. They didn't have to leave them squat for land on which to wage war against them.<p> <i>Do you remember who the original agressor is?</i><p> IIRC, England, for promising Semetic people a homeland, and then giving it to Jews as Isreal, if memory serves and histories are accurate. <p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

<i>All of this aid going from the US to Israel should also find its way to helping Palestinians too.</i><p> I think it was, but somehow ended up in a Swiss account under Arafat's wife's name.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
"The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

Anonymous you are full of propaganda! How did the Jews get Israel the first time around. Killed every man, woman and child of the original inhabitants? Now, the Zionists are trying to do the same thing again. There are lots of Jews there that want piece, over 100,000 of them signed a petition to have the military stand down and to withdraw from the occupied territories but the government ignores them and when its not doing that it harasses them. <p>Apparently democracy is fine as long as you don't demand the freedoms and rights that go along with it! There is a bigger story here than Zionists exterminating Arabs. If you want to know what Jews think have a look here: <a href="http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com">True Torah Jews</a>

How is the fact that the Arabs would exterminate the Jews if they let their gaurd down propaganda? The Arabs would like to exterminate them now and say so, at least in Arabic they say so. The Arabs have forced the Jews out of every country in the Middle East, this is not news.

It was England's to give away because it took over from the Ottomans? <br><br> BTW They promised it to BOTH the Zionists and the Arabs. <br><br> The PLO declared war on Israel? <br><br> I guess the ANC declared war on South Africa. <br><br> Maybe you should study some history Dr Caleb. <br><br> That's all I will say about this although I could easily write a hundred pages about Shaorn's crimes alone. <br><br> I should have known better but to get (once again) involved in a topic where truth usually means nothing and top reporters like Neil McDonald of the CBC are getting accused of being anti-semitic. (Or the NYT, Washington Post and other mainstream media.) <br><br> And then to the shame of the CBC shifted to Washington

Anon, go to the site I gave the link for above, they say it is not the Arabs who got the Jews expelled from Arab countries( and they provide documentation for their assertions). Just because you see it in a newspaper doesn't make it the truth.

To Be Bluntly Honest ... Either side's approach to this on going conflict is Flawed and Pointless . If you are Pro Isreali or Pro Palestinian , please tell me how you can obtain peace , when one side acts like a brutal military dictator , while the other uses people as human bombs ? It doesn't matter Who funds who to do this , the point being You will never have Peace until you rid yourselves of Sharon , Arafat and your religious dogma . I really think the UN should step in and have some balls to end this conflict . Before Sharon Gets the whole middle east at war . The human lives lost in this conflict is nothing less then Pathetic !

Yeah, this is certainly a job for the UN. I lived
in Beirut from 1967 to 1969. On a school trip I
got my first taste of UN peace keepers. A small squad
of Canadians were stationed on Cyprus to man a buffer
zone between the largely christian south and muslim
north. Well here we are nearly 40 years later and
the Cyprus problem, (a minor nuisance compared to
other ME problems), is still unresolved. If the
UN cannot deal with Cyprus it sure as hell cannot
deal with the ME. It's going to be interesting to
see who will be the first to bail on this profoundly
undemocratic, (noboby in the UN is elected -- think
Canadian senate appointed by mafia members), deeply
flawed and useless organization.