Illegal Downloads -- New Concerns For Cross-Border Travelers

Posted on Wednesday, November 08 at 10:36 by rearguard
However, while I’m used to having my bags checked, my last cross-border trip was different. Once again I was called into the back room, and when I got there a lone customs official was already conducting a search of another passenger's bags. I had to "wait behind the red line" and make sure "not to use my cell phone" in "the secured area." Violate these rules and you're in deep you-know-what.

From a distance, then, I watched as the other guy's bags got a good going-over -- the same thing that would be presumably happening to my bags in due time. The customs official was really going to town. He was checking everything -- yanking out clothes, checking through pockets, looking at various packages, and so on. I figured that they must really have something on this guy.

Then I heard the official ask the gentleman for his laptop, which I thought was just to ensure that it wasn’t bought abroad and brought back without paying taxes (which is why you should always carry some sort of proof of purchase with you, or get a special customs card made that stipulates the product was purchased in your home country -- they question these sorts of things). But they weren’t just considering where he’d bought it; they were about to conduct a search of the contents of his computer. You know, the files stored on it! I’d never seen this done before, and my heart skipped a beat. I had a laptop too!

Full story here [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on November 9, 2006]

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  1. by Wraun
    Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:51 pm
    Well! That was an interesting story eh?
    I suppose if we're going to accept a search of pockets that are in a suitcase, we are expected to accept a search of a computer harddrive in a suitcase as well, but should we?
    I don't think so. What valid reason would a customs agent have for searching a computer harddrive? You can't hide any tangible items that you may have bought outside the country. You might have entered the purchase of something in your financial software but if you bought it outside the country, then he will find the item if you have not already declared it. If you bought software while outside of Canada, you will have the CD and furthermore, I have often bought software over the internet from outside the country and do not receive a CD and do not pay any brokerage fees, duty or customs taxes of any sort.
    Even the RCMP have to have "probable cause" to search you, your home, your vehicle or your personal belongings.
    I can see where a search of a computer harddrive could be advantageous to "counter-terrorism" if it were to be conducted before boarding a plane, not upon arrival in your destination.


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  2. Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:13 am
    I live in Windsor Ont. and since Pres. Bush has been in office I have not crossed the border because I don't want to expose myself to the suspicions and paranoia that exists in the United States. People on the tunnel bus going to ballgames have been delayed at the American border to the point that they arrive at the game in the dying innings. This is due to the kingdom of fear environment in the US.

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  3. Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:54 am
    FYI it makes no diff if you go to the US or somewhere else because both the Canadian gov and US gov are searching computer hard drives for God knows what. A trip to Europe will get you the same Gestapo treatment from our uneducated can't-get-a-real-job Canadian border guards.

    The government's thinking seems tobe that ANYTHING goes when it comes to a border crosser. You have NO RIGHTS period - zippo (the Charter be damned!), and you can be humiliated with bizarre orders concerning minor deviations of distance from a yellow line, you can have every orifice forcibly raped by some sadistic freak with a latex glove, and all your belongings can be searched inside out - just because you don't smell right, or perhaps you turned on that greasy f*cker with the glove.

    The whole thing is sick and twisted, but what's worse is that so many people are seemingly putting up with it as if it's legitimate.

    When I read about this shit, all I can think of is that we're living in a modern day version of Nazi Germany but don't know it yet.

    I figure if you ever wondered how Germany became a tyranny overnight with almost no meaningful resistance from the general population - well here we are living it up!

  4. by Wraun
    Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:39 am
    I came back from Mexico last year and my wife had travelled the day before me and brought all of our luggage with the exception of my carry-on bag. I was subject to a search of my belongings because of my lack of baggage. Figure that one out. Shouldn't they be suspicious of the person with 10 suitcases full of who knows what?
    Oh ya an I was verbally accosted because I stepped over the red line before being called.
    I have had a lot of negative experiences entering my homeland over the years and could go on for hours but one question I've always wanted to ask of a Canada customs agent is... "Is being a f@#%ing @sshole a prerequisite for employment with Canada Customs or is it the job that MAKES you a f@#%ing @sshole?

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    Everybody got to deviate from the norm

  5. Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:40 am
    "Is being a f@#%ing @sshole a prerequisite for employment with Canada Customs or is it the job that MAKES you a f@#%ing @sshole?? <br><br> A very good question, one that has been asked many times before. There is however an answer. <br><br> <a href="http://www.verrueckte-experimente.de/leseproben_e.html">1971 The professor’s prison</a> <br><br> <i>In March 2001, American university professor Philip Zimbardo received hundreds of E-mails from Germany. “How could you do that?” asked the E-mail writers, who had just seen the film The Experiment. In the film, a psychologist puts 20 students in a simulated jail situation—10 in the role of the prisoners, 10 as their keepers. After three days, the situation gets out of control. The guards bind and strike the prisoners. Rapes and murders are committed. The story was inspired by an experiment that took place at Stanford University. The investigator was Philip Zimbardo.</i> <br><br> Be sure to read the rest, it describes what may be happening to this country of ours, probably by design. <br><br> The government is currently in the process of hiring additional border guards. If I remember correctly, I was told by someone who had seen recruiter's in a mall, that the idea was to beef up the force by 70%. <br><br> Perhaps the intention is to create an "us vs them" scenario? Internal fighting is always good for those who profit from tyranny.

  6. Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:22 am
    "Is being a f@#%ing @sshole a prerequisite for employment with Canada Customs or is it the job that MAKES you a f@#%ing @sshole??"

    What came first, the chicken or the egg?



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