Osama Bin Laden: Is It Him? Almost Certainly

Posted on Saturday, January 21 at 12:40 by 4Canada
How much longer can this nonsense go on? President Jacques Chirac warns that France - of all countries - might use nuclear weapons, if attacked. On whom, I wonder? America blows Pakistani children to pieces and claims it has killed five wanted men, including a bomb-maker. But there's absolutely no evidence. Bin Laden says that America will be attacked again unless it accepts a truce in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Weren't we supposed to be winning the "war on terror"? Oh no, the "experts" tell us, Bin Laden and al-Qa'ida are losing, that's why they want a truce. Some hope. Full article: Fisk asks question about Canada's involvement in Afghanistan that I would like answered. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11621.htm

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  1. by chall
    Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:10 pm
    Is this article b#ll*hit? Most certainly. The tape is a fake.

    As has been pointed out in numerous places on the internet already, bin Laden allegedly uses a quote from Blum's book, Rogue State and says, "If you (Americans) are sincere in your desire for peace and security, we have answered you. And if Bush decides to carry on with his lies and oppression, then it would be useful for you to read the book 'Rogue State', which states in its introduction: 'If I were president, I would stop the attacks on the United States: First I would give an apology to all the widows and orphans and those who were tortured. Then I would announce that American interference in the nations of the world has ended once and for all.'"

    However, this quote is not from 'Rogue State', again, pointing to a very bad forgery of the bin Laden audiotape. In one of his other books, 'Killing Hope', an expose of the CIA's covert wars, Blum defends to Soviet occupation of Afghanistan as self-defense against the CIA-backed Islamist guerrillas, including bin Laden's forces, that were backed by the CIA. Now, why would bin Laden plug an author like Blum who backed bin Laden's hated enemies, the Soviet Communists and their Afghan allies? Because the bin Laden tape and his purported oratory are frauds.

    Again folks, bin Laden and al-Qeada are an original creation and instrument of the CIA and anything that is attributed to them is propaganda for the furtherance of the bogus "war on terror."

  2. Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:02 pm
    >>Because the bin Laden tape and his purported oratory are frauds. <<

    Hollywood has good makeup studios but the actor may have been on vacation or already removed for security reasons. Iran has never been buddies with the Americans and it's expected that "Bin" is rehearsing a speach that will indicate Iran is behind it all. Perhaps the CIA will come up with an all-new bad guy. Not many takers as the star can't win any awards.

  3. Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:26 pm
    "Again folks, bin Laden and al-Qeada are an original creation and instrument of the CIA and anything that is attributed to them is propaganda for the furtherance of the bogus "war on terror."

    If you take a look at another kind of 'terror' you'll see some disturbing similarites. Lynchings in the South US.

    They've steadily declined since the late 1800's. Some attribute this to the theory that such treatment need only be carried out once in a while, and everyone hears about it. Just to make a point. Remember a few years ago, some red-neck dragged a black guy behind his truck for a mile or so, just till he was dead?

    I think, and there are some co-relating items, that these 'announcements' come out when the public begin to forget 9/11. Then the sabres rattle, and people 'fall in line' again.

    ---
    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  4. by chall
    Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:26 pm
    Right you are DrCaleb. With some of the current issues such as the NSA wiretapping, the extension of the Patriot Act, and the nomination of Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court, the neocons have to jingle the keys before the infantile public to draw their attention away from the real issues.

  5. Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:53 pm
    Here's another view, from Britain:<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Voice of the White House January 20, 2006 <br />
    TBR News.org<br />
    <br />
    Yet again, our grossly incompetent CIA, in conjunction with the <br />
    prevaricating manipulators in the White House, have produced <br />
    another faked "bin Ladin tape" threatening to attack the United <br />
    States but "offering a truce." The CIA has produced at least ten <br />
    "original terrorist" tapes in the past three years. A man named <br />
    Morton Weil, working for the CIA out of Waco, Texas, puts these <br />
    together using someone fluent in Arabic. The documents are <br />
    produced in Langley, sent to the NSC for vetting and, if approved <br />
    as written, sent by courier to Waco, Texas where they are <br />
    translated (from the English) into Arabic and then recorded by a <br />
    person, as yet unnamed, fluent in that language . <br />
    <br />
    I lunch twice a week with an Arab diplomat who, obviously, is an <br />
    educated man and fluent in his native tongue. He not only knew <br />
    bin Laden but has heard him speak a number of times. His <br />
    opinion? Fake. <br />
    <br />
    His reasoning? <br />
    <br />
    Bush is presently doing so badly in the domestic (and foreign) <br />
    opinion polls, yet did so well as "The Great Protector of America" <br />
    after 911, that he seeks to recapture his permanently lost glory by <br />
    first posing a threat to the US and then stepping forward again, <br />
    shield and sword in hand, to defend the American people against <br />
    foreign (and non-Christian) terrorists. <br />
    <br />
    He and Rove feel that his poll numbers will rise once again. The <br />
    problem is that very few people believe these rigged and <br />
    seemingly never-consummated terrorist "warnings" and so once <br />
    again, the boy cried "Wolf" in vain. <br />
    <br />
    I also know someone on the NSC and they told me this morning <br />
    that they really wished the CIA would be a little more <br />
    accomplished in their fakes. <br />
    <br />
    His reasoning? <br />
    <br />
    It has been known, officially, that bin Laden died of kidney failure <br />
    in a Pakistani hospital in August of 2002 and obviously isn't <br />
    making any tapes now. A live bin Laden, however, is a good <br />
    boogyman with which to terrify the American public into slavishly <br />
    believing our government is trying to protect them. Secondly, there <br />
    is no reference to the Koran in the message, something always <br />
    found in original, period, bin Laden announcements. Thirdly, the <br />
    fake bin Laden does not make any references, as original <br />
    messages have, to past Western atrocities against Muslims and, <br />
    finally, the tape is far too short. <br />
    <br />
    What is this source's reasoning? That the CIA's blunder in killing <br />
    17-25 perfectly innocent Pakistani civilians in a badly botched <br />
    rocket attack against a bin Laden supporter has caused an uproar <br />
    in Pakistan, (and elsewhere) an ally, albeit a very dicey one. First, <br />
    the CIA "revealed," through paid Pakistani stooges, that "many top <br />
    terrorists" were killed in the attack -- although the sole victims were <br />
    women and children and two sets of grandparents. Their logic is <br />
    that while the intended target was "mysteriously absent" at the time <br />
    of the attack, the slaughter of the innocents was justified because <br />
    "many top terrorists" were eradicated. <br />
    <br />
    This latest taped fake is designed both to give Bush increased <br />
    stature to a disbelieving American public and to justify any future <br />
    actions against more generally completely innocent civilians. <br />
    <br />
    The Bush Administration is drawing an enormous bill that is going <br />
    to have to be paid by the American people, hopefully for the <br />
    criminals, long after they are out of office and living in tax-payer <br />
    supported safe (and non-extraditable) retirement in the south of <br />
    France or Tahiti. <br />
    <br />
    Something needs to be done about all of this murderous <br />
    corruption. <br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4070">http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4070</a> <br />
    <br />
    <br />



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