Now, Chinese-Canadians Right At Home

Posted on Monday, July 04 at 10:04 by jensonj
"Whole communities are changing," she said in June 1995. "A whole lot of people don't want to be there; it's a reality." She elaborated in a letter to the local newspaper later that summer. "When dozens of individuals who are the backbone of Markham say they are moving away ... we have a problem," Bell wrote. At the time, the deputy mayor defended her comments, saying she was simply echoing the feelings of her constituents and that nothing discriminatory was intended. But her words didn't wash with many in the Chinese community and beyond. "It was a betrayal of the idea of multiculturalism, and it was hurtful that it came from our political leaders," recalls Dr. Ken Ng, chair of the Federation of Chinese Canadians in Markham. "The task we had ahead of us felt like picking up ashes." http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1120255821558&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home

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  1. Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:39 am
    Here is an excerpt of the article:


    "Most of our customers are Chinese, but we've also become a tourist destination for other people," says Stella Ho, the mall's promotion manager.

    Alex Koul, a Markham resident, decided to bring his mother, Valentina, here this week on her visit from Russia.

    "She thinks it's more interesting than the Eaton Centre," he says. "I thought it was a good way of showing her what Canada is about" "


    When will the madness end? When will people stand up for courageous politicians such as Carole Bell who give the bureaucratic elitist new world order the finger and stand up for the real Canada?


    Can't the utopian socialists on Vive see that multilculturalism in practice is all about erasing the English Canadian majority and replacing them? Can't you see that? Can't you see that liberalism is nothing more than Marxism in disguise?

    I am embarrassed by the Marxist opinions of the otherwise nationalist Toronto Star.


    I bet the morons who voted Pearson-Trudeau didn't think they were voting for a borderless world and the forced ethnic cleansing of their own race and culture.

  2. Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:50 am
    The multicultural, "country of immigrants" myth is slowing coming out of the bag, and not a moment to soon. Once it is out, it can never be put back in. :)

  3. Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:46 pm
    People are people; why don`t we all just unite to build a better society?

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    Dave Ruston

  4. Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:15 pm
    Chinese-Canadian (as an example of any who wishes to hyphenate themselves) means being Chinese with Canadian citizenship. It doesn't mean they are Canadian.

    It is time we drop the "community" euphamism and finally call a spade a spade. With the increase of enclaving we should start reffering to places like Markham (and Brampton, and Surrey, and Woodbridge, and Richmond B.C., etc) as colonies. This is neo-colonization in practice but no one dares to call it that lest they be labled a racist. But then again colonization is what greedy, white, European males do. Not non-Europeans. Right? Let's not alarm Canadians enough to actually demand that our out of control immigration and refugee system be fixed. But no one wants to put a few immigration lawyers/liscensed human trafficers out of work or hurt the votes for the Liberal party.

    I read that article in the Toronto Star. One of the Chinese residents refers to the "white flight" phenomenon as anecdotal. How Canadian of this person. Hide your head in the sand at anything that might shatter the myth of Canadian style multicultualism and pretend the problem doesn't exist. White flight is a real problem. The Toronto Star reported on it a about a year or two ago and immigration and enclaving are the main factors Canadians nor longer feel at home anymore and thus move to towns outside of Toronto. How interesting. In order for Chinese and Indians, etc. to feel at "home" they must cluster and change the homes of someone else. When immigrants do that in Canada it is a celebration. When whites did that here, and elsewhere, to indigenous poeples it is a lamentation. We Canadians are so pathetic.

  5. Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:31 pm
    Multiculturalism<br />
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    In 1971, Canada was the first country in the world to adopt multiculturalism as an official policy. By so doing, Canada affirmed the value and dignity of all Canadian citizens regardless of their racial or ethnic origins, their language, or their religious affiliation. The 1971 Multiculturalism Policy of Canada also confirmed the rights of Aboriginal peoples and the status of Canada's two official languages. <br />
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    Canadian multiculturalism is fundamental to our belief that all citizens are equal. Multiculturalism ensures that all citizens can keep their identities, can take pride in their ancestry and have a sense of belonging. Acceptance gives Canadians a feeling of security and self-confidence, making them more open to, and accepting of, diverse cultures. The Canadian experience has shown that multiculturalism encourages racial and ethnic harmony and cross-cultural understanding, and discourages ghettoization, hatred, discrimination and violence. <br />
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    Mutual respect helps develop common attitudes. New Canadians, no less than other Canadians, respect the political and legal process, and want to address issues by legal and constitutional means. <br />
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    Through multiculturalism, Canada recognizes the potential of all Canadians, encouraging them to integrate into their society and take an active part in its social, cultural, economic and political affairs. <br />
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    All Canadians are guaranteed equality before the law and equality of opportunity regardless of their origins. Canada's laws and policies recognize Canada's diversity by race, cultural heritage, ethnicity, religion, ancestry and place of origin and guarantee to all men and women complete freedom of conscience, of thought, belief, opinion expression, association and peaceful assembly. All of these rights, our freedom and our dignity, are guaranteed through our Canadian citizenship, our Canadian Constitution, and our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. <br />
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    Multiculturalism has led to higher rates of naturalization than ever before. With no pressure to assimilate and give up their culture, immigrants freely choose their new citizenship because they want to be Canadians. As Canadians, they share the basic values of democracy with all other Canadians who came before them. At the same time, Canadians are free to choose for themselves, without penalty, whether they want to identify with their specific group or not. Their individual rights are fully protected and they need not fear group pressures. <br />
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    Our diversity is a national asset. Recent advances in technology have made international communications more important than ever. Canadians who speak many languages and understand many cultures make it easier for Canada to participate globally in areas of education, trade and diplomacy. <br />
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    Multiculturalism is a relationship between Canada and the Canadian people. Our citizenship gives us equal rights and equal responsibilities. By taking an active part in our civic affairs, we affirm these rights and strengthen Canada's democracy, ensuring that a multicultural, integrated and inclusive citizenship will be every Canadian's inheritance. <br />
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    Respecting our Differences <br />
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    Canada's experience with diversity distinguishes it from most other countries. Our 30 million inhabitants reflect a cultural, ethnic and linguistic makeup found nowhere else on earth. Approximately 200,000 immigrants a year from all parts of the globe continue to<br />
    choose Canada, drawn by its quality of life and its reputation as an open, peaceful and caring society that welcomes newcomers and values diversity. <br />
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    Diversity has been a fundamental characteristic of Canada since its beginnings. At the time of European settlement there were more than 56 Aboriginal nations speaking more than 30 languages. As the French and then the English colonized Canada, treaties were signed that acknowledged Aboriginal nationhood. Linguistic duality was enshrined in law at the earliest stages of the development of the Canadian federation. At a time when it was accepted practice to establish sovereignty through war and cultural domination, there were enough Canadians who believed in the virtues of accommodation and mutual respect to ensure that, with some exceptions, Canada would develop peaceably and the foundations of its diversity would be preserved. <br />
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    This does not mean that there aren't tensions in Canada that flow from the differences between people. But as these tensions are addressed, Canadians learn to adapt and relate to one another despite their differences. Through practice, we have come to understand that the differences between us do not have to divide us. This encourages citizens who face common challenges to step forward and claim their right to full participation in Canadian society. As a consequence, Canada's concept of what constitutes diversity is expanding. Diversity is moving beyond language, ethnicity, race and religion, to include cross-cutting characteristics such as gender, sexual orientation, and range of ability and age. The same approaches that have helped Canadians develop into a bilingual, multicultural society are now also helping to bring down other barriers that prevent individuals from reaching their full potential. <br />
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    A broad framework of laws and policies supports Canada's approach to diversity. At the federal level, these include the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Canadian Human Rights Act, the Employment Equity Act, the Official Languages Act, the Pay Equity Act and the Multiculturalism Act. Provinces and territories also have laws, human rights commissions and programs that promote diversity. Finally, Canada reinforces its commitment to diversity as a signatory to international conventions including, for example, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. <br />
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    However, making equality of opportunity meaningful in a diverse society requires more than constitutional measures and legislation. All levels of government in Canada deliver programs that mobilize communities to promote dialogue and help people overcome barriers to their participation in society. <br />
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    "Canada has become a post-national, multicultural society. It contains the globe within its borders, and Canadians have learned that their two international languages and their diversity are a comparative advantage and a source of continuing creativity and innovation. Canadians are, by virtue of history and necessity, open to the world." -the Right Honourable Jean Chretien, Prime Minister of Canada, June 2000 <br />
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    Canada's future depends on maintaining and strengthening its capacity to bring together peoples with many differences--even grievances--and building a peaceful society where no one's identity or cultural heritage should have to be compromised. Canada's approach to diversity is based on the belief that the common good is best served when everyone is accepted and respected for who they are, and that this ultimately makes for a resilient, more harmonious and more creative society. This faith in the value of diversity recognizes that respect for cultural distinctiveness is intrinsic to an individual's sense of self worth and identity, and a society that accommodates everyone equally is a society that<br />
    encourages achievement, participation, attachment to country and a sense of belonging. <br />
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    "It is my deepest hope that Canada will match its new legal maturity with that degree of political maturity which will allow us to make a total commitment to the Canadian ideal. I speak of a Canada where men and women of Aboriginal ancestry, of French and British heritage, of the diverse cultures of the world, demonstrate the will to share this land in peace, in justice, and with mutual respect."-the Right Honourable Pierre Elliott Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, April 17, 1982<br />
    <p>---<br>Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.<br />
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    Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.<br />

  6. Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:30 pm
    Because Dave, foreign cultures have shown no compunction towards doing anything other than making more money than before. Their racist ethnic lobbies strive to overtake real Canadians, not share anything with them.

  7. Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:48 pm
    The Saint, you are one of the few sane people on Vive. These one-world communists are actively eliminating our own cultural heritage.

    Toronto was once the imperial city--now it is a third world salad bowl. I cry when I think of how stupid most people are, and how they won't wake up until drastic measures will have to be taken--or we will disappear, which is not a problem to one-world dildos like Pierre Trudeau, Paul Martin and Lester B. Pearson.

    Toronto and Vancouver are WAY past the point of an easy solution.

  8. Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:59 pm
    jesonj,

    -thank you for sharing our lovely government's writing....think about it another way, and you will see it is insane.

    Our government told us this multiculti and 1982 American-style Charter was about enshrining right:

    -it fails to take into account that people live in groups, and culture is not an individual thing,

    -it promises to eliminate ghettoization, and it actually CAUSES ghettoization, hostility, even violence. (there were race riots in Quebec in the early 1990s.

    -it claims to treat people equally, while systematically destroying the 99% white majority that speaks English and French,

    -it claims to be treating people with respect, while forcing a civilized 99% majority to have history rewritten, foreign cultures stuffed down their throats, standrads lowered, anti-white affirmative action entrenched, and white guilt elevated, while non-whites are told they can do no wrong, whereas whitey is to blame for everything.


    Our government is full of shit--but so is the government of every other white country. We've been betrayed by leaders who are elected to protect us. The only winners are money lenders.

  9. Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:17 pm
    Vive le Canada.ca is a nationalist site but a PROGRESSIVE nationalist site. That means we DON'T build our definition of our nation on "white culture" or on excluding anyone due to race, ethnicity, or yes, country of origin, whether Chinese or American or any other country. <P> <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/multifaq/index.php?topic=12&qt_id=20&getlevel=017">Isn't nationalism bad?</a> <P> You'll also note we ask members--and users--to abide by a code of conduct that prohibits discrimination. <P> <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/multifaq/index.php?topic=2&qt_id=12&getlevel=009">Commitment to Fair Treatment</a> <P> If you believe being a nationalist includes an emphasis on race or ethnicity, I will kindly show you the door. And I will also moderate comments with that in mind. <p>---<br>Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf<br />

  10. Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:21 pm
    Your argument that allowing immigrants into this country and supporting multiculturalism is the "forced ethnic cleasing of their own race and culture" ie "white" "race and culture" is odious and absolutely NOT the kind of nationalism we endorse on Vive. Carole Bell was also simply wrong. See below.

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    Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

  11. Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:23 pm
    Hey, how about some proof rather than unfounded generalizations? Where is your evidence?

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    Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

  12. Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:27 pm
    Like what solution, a "final solution"?!

    Multiculturalism strengthens Canada and it saddens me that the people who immigrate here and work hard to become citizens have to content with attitudes like yours.

    Toronto and Vancouver are examples of the future, and it's a positive one.


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    Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

  13. Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:59 pm
    Saint, I want to address you in particular.

    If someone becomes a Canadian citizen, they are Canadian, period.

    Funny how people such as yourself apparently have no problem with "white" immigrants "clustering" or "colonizing" in Canada, and never raise that as a concern, as though every "white" immigrant has the same culture and language, or the culture and language of "real" Canadians. Or do the only "white" immigrants who classify as non-threatening come from England and France?

    Various people spout anti-immigration crap to my face all the time, and talk about limiting immigration and why we need to do it, because I'm white and they assume. In fact my mother was an immigrant and most of my father's family were immigrants including my grandparents and aunts and uncles. They came here speaking other languages and with their own cultures which we still keep alive and which are NOT the same just because technically both sides of my family are "white" and "European".

    After all, how exactly do you propose to let the "good" immigrants in (ie white, or only English and French) while keeping the "bad" immigrants out without having racially-based, ie racist, immigration policies? That's the same kind of thinking that caused Canadians to put Japanese-Canadians in internment camps during the war while letting Nazi war criminals walk right in and settle down (because they were "white"). It is still FAR too prevalent.

    Immigration is NOT colonization. Immigrants accept Canadian laws and legislation. Our laws are set up so that it's easier to get into the country if you have family here, and not surprisingly new immigrants may want to live near that family, just like most of us do--that's not some threatening form of "clustering". It isn't easy for immigrants and refugees to get into Canada, and in fact it should be easier and we shouldn't have signed the "safe third country agreement" with the U.S. that forces us to turn away refugees if they've already been turned away by the U.S.

    And as for "white flight", where is your proof? How about an actual link? Or anything besides your word that it's an actual concern? Besides which, why are you blaming the racist attitudes of people who don't want to live with "non-whites" on the immigrants, rather than those racist attitudes or those people themselves?

    Frankly, the colonization you should be worried about is economic colonization, in which giant multinational companies are coming in and forcing out Canadian-owned companies and overturning the democratic decisions of our governments. That colonization is not being accomplished by anyone who cares enough to immigrate to this country and become a citizen, but rather by giant corporations originating in the US and China and elsewhere that call no nation home but instead use "globalization" as a way to supercede all governments. The "white" people involved in that, the really, really, rich ones, will in fact try to play on racism like yours to bolster fears of the threat of Chinese competition and justify deep integration, the real colonization, by themselves rather than China.

    If anyone is hiding their head in the sand, it is you.

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    Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major...leaflet campaign.--Rimmer, Red Dwarf

  14. Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:15 am
    I never said final solution at all....I meant solution to the racial and cultural tension which exists in Canada's major cities Susan, which you are clearly unaware of because you don't live in a big city. We are a big country.

    I completely agree with you that Toronto and Vancouver are much closer to the future than most---a third world future of crime, poverty, disease, decay and dissolution.



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