Idiot Provocatuer

Could it be that the same group behind Harper is behind this Western Standard move as well. Could it be that there is also a planned terrorist attack on Canadian soil from the same group? Could it be that this would be the perfect excuse for this government to give power to USA and follow blindly in the path of this stupid and endless war? Could it be all planned ahead already?

I don't think it is that far from the truth (although it is a very strong gut feeleing) but can we just sit there and wait that it unfolds... how many people will die this time Mr. Harper, Mr. Bush... How many?

"Could it be that the same group behind Harper is behind this Western Standard move as well. "

Yes. Ezra Levant once ran for the Reform or Alliance Party, IIRC.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

"Could it be that the same group behind Harper is behind this Western Standard move as well. Could it be that there is also a planned terrorist attack on Canadian soil from the same group? Could it be that this would be the perfect excuse for this government to give power to USA and follow blindly in the path of this stupid and endless war? Could it be all planned ahead already?"

Hehe goodstuff. So if somone decides to blow up the CN tower and just "happens" to leave thier indestructible Iranian passport in the debris we will be sending our two tanks to the latest front on terror?

"Ezra Levant once ran for the Reform or Alliance Party, IIRC." ... and the link is there!

If I were living in a big city, I would get the hell out of there ASAP and if I worked in a tower... I would change job!

This is becoming such clear, yet people are blind to the event. They don't know how to connect the dots, from Washington to Calgary to Ottawa and back to Washington.

People are not blind, RayB. People are not complacent.

It's perfectly clear that the Western Standard is warmongering; that
the Muslim cartoons are hate propaganda softening people up for
another U.S. war against another Muslim nation, this time: Iran.
Ezra has come very close to treason, in this instance.

The people's awareness of Bush Conservatism is why we did not
elect a Conservative majority government in Canada. It's all too
likely to lead us into closer ties to George Bush which means war.

It's why the people of Vancouver-Kingsway voted strategically,
to bring IN a Liberal M.P. and to keep the Conservatives OUT ...
but woke up to find that a Conservative had snuck IN without their
approval. This is not OK.

If it is OK, then shouldn't Emerson's 20,000 "Conservative" votes
go to the poor sod who actually was the Conservative candidate
for Vancouver-Kingsway? Is that likely?

I think people know that Conservatives = Bush. We know that Bush
= war. We know that these outrageously unfair wars = bombs =
angry people which = more bombs = more hatred = more wars.

We are not complacent, RayB. And we did the best we could,
when we voted for a split House of Commons, each group
watching the other. We hoped that would keep them honest.

It makes me nuts to hear anybody say that the treachery and the
warmongering are all OUR fault because WE are blind. Even
suspecting the Harper agenda, did we -- did YOU -- have any idea
of the depths of treachery awaiting us? Like Emerson? Like
Levant? Like Harper?

Chances are, with what has happend so far the Real Trachery hasn't even started yet.

:'(

Isn't Ezra the same ass-clown who left CanWest Global because it was not right wing enough?

And yes, when one factors in Ezra's and the Western Standard's goals, and track record to date, it is safe to assume that they did this to further their own agendas.

I am impressed so far by the Canadian Muslim community for not falling for the bait as offered.

BC Mary makes a great point - we are seeing just the same things we saw before the war on Iraq, and in fact if we go back in history - the same things we saw from Nazi Germany in regards to their future actions with the European Jews. People are being conditioned to hate one certain group, thus making it easier to demonize them, and later to kill them on mass.

Scott Ritter who has been right about so many things has given dire warnings of late about his knowledge surrounding the upcoming war on Iran. He claims to know that nukes are part of the attacks as planned at this point. That should alarm all rational thinking people. Some 60% of Iranians are under 18. We are going to nuke children. We are going to be complicit in the genocide of a generation because most are far too dim to question what is going on around them.

And publishing these 'cartoons' is just one small cog in the machine known as the upcoming genocide.

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

So, now our troops maybe in greater danger because Mr. Levant wanted to sell a
few magazines.

What a piece of shit.

and it also worthy of concideration stoutlimb supports Levant and his actions

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Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.
Attrib. Al EINSTEIN

it's more than just selling a few magazines, look at all the attention he's getting. He's now the news. That was the point, I'm sure. The big media pats itself on the back for not posting the pics but it encourages those that do by giving them national air time. It's really disgusting.

<<So, now our troops maybe in greater danger because Mr. Levant wanted to sell a few magazines.>>

Another way to look at that might be to say: "So now someone gets why we are there fighting in the first place."

I note that you said "greater" danger. Maybe we should just ask the Taliban terrorists specifically what they would like and reduce the danger factor to zero? I'm guessing they will say go home Canuck so we can resume beating our women and blowing up stone statues of Buddha.

p.s. wouldn't worry too much about Ezra's profits. Sounds like most of the pants-shitting stores won't carry the mag anyway. Apparently it is in the interest of not having a fatwa...er I mean in the interest of good taste. No word yet, if the new spirit of good taste will extend to Hustler magazine.

Remember; it's only a link, not proof of conspiracy.

I think Mr. Levant is just trying to get some exposure for his little rag. But it's backfired, and many newsstands felt that it's pointless to purposely offend people while hiding behind 'free speech'. So many newsstands are pulling the offensive rag off their stands.

In Denmark, it could be argued that the cartoons were published in the name of open discussion, but the third or fourth time, it's just a stunt.

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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

I have one question regarding the legality of reposting these cartoons.

When people in Canada have been convicted of hate speech, the newspapers across the country have no problems reprinting exactly what these convicts said. I recall direct quotes of hate speech from Ernst Zundel in my local newspaper.

Here we have a set of cartoons that nobody has been tried for, let alone convicted. Yet people say that reprinting them is illegal. How is this possible that broadcasting convicted neo-nazi's hate speech on CBC news is legal, but reprinting Danish cartoons is illegal?

Is there a different standard for a sketch compared to a paragraph of text? Can someone with more legal knowlege explain this to me? I understand intent is everything. The editor of the Western Standard explained that their aim is to inform those who do not have access to the internet about what the controversy is.

I see the intent of the Western Standard to be similar to the CBC repeating the words of Ernst Zundel. (The difference is, the cartoons have yet to be proven as hate speech in a court of law.) I'm certain some people here will disagree with me. I guess my challenge to them is to back up their disagreement with some facts, rather than opinion pieces.

Lets see what you've got.

Care to tell the world just what we are doing there since Osama is no longer there?

We replaced one group of despots - the Taliban - with another made up of criminals, drug runners and warlords. Nothing much has changed, so just what are we doing there?

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If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.