Anti-American Or Pro-Canadian

Posted on Tuesday, January 03 at 00:42 by idslayer
I find it quite unpalatable to think that Canadians are better off to be (not so) slowly poisoned by the unscrupulous practices of Dupont, Monsanto and Ethyl Corporation, to name but a few. To those who would pander to those powers that would so self-servingly foist such toxic products and practices upon Canadians, I beg to ask, "How could you sell yourselves so short?" Canada's resources, products and talents are sought-after, world-wide; we should at least offer them up at fair-market value. And we should have the right to say no to products that science shows are harmful to our health and/or our environment. We are not just a vast pool resources to be exploited without due consideration and we are not simply a "target" market to be exploited without due consideration for the safety and well-being of our population. Nor are Canadians a resource-pool for experimental drugs (55 % of health-care costs are pharmapsudical). Our research, compromised by for-profit partnerships, focuses on symptom-alleviation rather than identifying causes - http://british-columbia.ca.human-rights.org/P3_Health_Research_Profits.htm Are Canadians simply a "target" market? An expendable resource? Lambs to be slaughtered? So long as the mainstream media keeps ignoring our alternatives, I'd say we're more like frogs, slowly being boiled alive... http://www.boilingfrog.ca Yours very truly, David Thomson http://british-columbia.ca.human-rights.org/MyPlatform.html http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/temp/candidates/ridings/bc-candidates/David_Thomson.asp

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  1. Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:28 pm
    I am all for Fair-Trade and against Free-for-America-Trade agreements. This has nothing to do with anti-American or pro-Canada, it has to do with fairness to those working hard for every dollard.

  2. Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:22 pm
    Inwhich case one must,yes MUST! seethat this 'dollar' has become a unit of exchange based only on agreement and not a bi-metal(gold and silver) backing.
    Please give this assertion your full concideration, readers.

    All our efforts put forth in doing hard work to acquire 'dollars' whoes value fluctuates on whims of bakers...that is what is unfair,don't you think?

  3. Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:34 am
    Those damn canadian bakers - so arbitrary in their monetary policies!

    For that reason alone, around the world, you'll find that the more fiscially literate countries pay attention to their bankers, instead.

  4. Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:16 am
    >>Those damn canadian bakers - so arbitrary in their monetary policies!<<<

    I trust my "baker" with "every dollard", why wouldn’t I?

    :-D

  5. Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:31 pm
    Two important points: First, Canada has an approximately $150 <b>billion</b> dollar trade surplus with the US. And yet Canadians are constantly complaining that trade with the US is "unfair". This is impossible for anyone but a Canadian to make. Second, commodities (like oil,) are sold on the <b>open market</b> as it is. Likewise, prices are set by the <b>open market</b> (we'll ignore OPEC for the sake of brevity.) All this talk of withholding oil from the US to sell it to China is therefore illogical. If there were no transport costs, the US might as simply buy the excess oil left on the world market by China's shift to Canadian oil. In the real world, of course, transportation costs money, and the Chinese and the Americans would end up paying more for swapping oil suppliers. But the revenge fantasy so central around here: namely that the Canadians will withhold oil from the US, which will be purchased by China while the US dies of thirst for oil is not logical. And where exactly do the China get their operating capital from anyhow? American consumers you say?

  6. Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:47 pm
    >>>Two important points:<<

    You and your pesky, rational, well thought out commentary. How dare you try to drag this back to planet earth with your properly spelled, fact based analysis… You sir, or madam are either an American or a traitor!

    $150 billion dollar trade surplus be damned! Canadians are victims!

    Don't you know that the CAP is going to starve those basterdos out by depriving them of Canada’s sweet, sweet crude and its water? (Which they are evidentially dieing for.) After they are humbled by the CAP’s might Connie Fogal is going to march on Washington and burn the Whitehouse in an 1812 redux.
    Soon they will be simultaneously begging for mercy and finally noticing Canada. Finally they will be forced recognize the superiority of all things Canadian and start adding random vowels to their words. They will pay dearly for everything from Kyoto to Connie not having a prom date! Boy they will be sorry then!

    All you have to do to get this sweet, sweet revenge against those miserable Bastards is to vote for a lunatic fringe party that includes references to boiling frogs in its goofy press releases.

  7. by avatar Jesse
    Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:53 pm
    This was not a press release, this was a submission from a vivelecanada user. The boiling frog analogy is widely used; you can choose who to vote for based entirely on the analogies they use, while I judge them based on their policies.

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    Your mantra has been your opinions are stifled due to their contrary nature, when they are actually stifled for being without perceivable foundation.

  8. by avatar canuck
    Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:10 am
    So your are essentially saying that Canadians living in an energy abundant country should be made to pay the same price as people in the US who import energy from Canada while at the same time be left vulnerable to rapid swings in energy prices due to natural disasters thousands of kilometres away and concurrently have it illegal for Canada to hold an emergency reserve to protect against such wild price changes as the US uses its Canadian-oil-replenished strategic reserve to do.... and you can't see why Canadians should be upset about rapidly increasing prices when there is not a single reason for such unpredicable increases to occur in Canada, but for NAFTA and its proportionality clause? When you say "open market" you mean the "North American market", which is the manifest of NAFTA. I doubt there is another another country whose management of its own resources has been so constricted by a trade agreement.

    Since free trade is something we're going to have shoved down our throats for some time, it is in Canada's interest to diversify trade as much as possible. Distribute the risks if having one primary trading partner against dozens of other partners. We should not only allow China a stake in Canada but as many as nesseccary to makle the US actually compete for what it wan't in Canada.

  9. Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:32 am
    Canada is a major part of American energy policy. The American national energy plan directly references Canadian tar sands as a major part of American policies. We are a stable and reliable source or energy. The Canadian goverment has an obligation to ensure that Canadian resources are not exploited by imperial powers. Having said that we have left ourselves with little choice as we so heavily rely on America for trade. The key is to diversify are trading partners (not necessarily with oil) but with all our manufactured goods, food products and natrual resources. <a href="http://www.voicesinthewilderness.net/diary.jsp?DIARYID=30">Canada's need to diversify trade</a> gives an in depth analysis on why such policies are absolutely necessary for the viability and properity of Canada future. The goal of the Canadian government is not to ensure that America remains the worlds only super power but that the goals, wishes and desires of Canadians can be met and that our economy grows. Neither the Liberals nor the Conservatives are willing to look into diversifying trade because both parties profit under the status quo system.<p>---<br>Join the Community http://www.voicesinthewilderness.net

  10. Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:43 am
    All I'm waiting is for some CAP (or Liberal) representative to say the obvious "Let the Southern bastards freeze in the dark!"

  11. Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:02 am
    If you think the Irvings or shell oil co are going to sell it to you for one penny less then they can get from someone else you are deluding yourselves.

  12. Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:23 am
    >>> All I'm waiting is for some CAP (or Liberal) representative to say the obvious "Let the Southern bastards freeze in the dark!"<<<

    Yeah…because every last one of them says “Ya-All” and they have handgun vending machines and each bastard is forced to carry a new testament and they breathe Carbon monoxide instead of oxygen which is why they didn’t sign Kyoto and Bu$hitlerburton blew up New Orleans because he is a racist and they are a bunch of WACKOS who are out to enslave us poor Canadians by taking away the Avro Arrow and our precious water and their news is censored to only report the stuff that makes buSSh look really, really good and they reproduce through mitosis and they are going to bomb us any second because we are so polite and the rest of the world hates them and I know that because I once visited the next province over and they hated them there too and they can’t leave their front door with out sewing a maple leaf on their “rucksacks” because of Donald Rummsfelds unilateralism and they are all secret Zionists who are plotting to nuke Hugo Chavez because he wants to convert to the euro and they make us pay what ever price the market will bear for Gas plus the taxes that our federal and local governments slap on it which add up to more then the gas itself but that is OK because we have the best health care in the world if we don’t let any private competition wreck it by cutting the wait times or destroy our precious culture by giving us an alternative to the crap that can-con makes us watch to preserve our sovereignty against the relentless cultural imperialism of the yanks and no one should be allowed to make any choice other then what the government tells them to make because only that way can we preserve our freedom from those bastards….

    Vote NDP!

  13. Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:25 am
    So, why shouldn't we charge the Irvings et al every penny we can get?


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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  14. Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:34 am
    40 seconds flat.



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