Welfare Cuts Didn't Increase Poverty

Posted on Tuesday, July 19 at 09:40 by Anonymous
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/London/Rory_Leishman/2005/07/19/1137575.html I hope people here can inundate this guys e-mail box. Because here's one man who needs a serious eye-opener into what's happened with with our Canadian poor.

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  1. Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:34 pm
    Ah hahhahhaa Fraser Institute numbers are known to be formulated for their own means.

    Using the far superior measure of poverty - the market basket measure - more Canadians today live in poverty than any time since the dirty thirties.

    Fraser Institute... hahahahaha

  2. Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:13 pm
    Obviously socialists hate it when non-socialists fix social problems - and the real reduction in poverty bothers socialists the most because it gives them much less credibility when they spout their venom towards middle class Canadians.

    High welfare rates destroy people and it seems that that is exactly what socialists want. Socialists are truly evil people who just want to control other people through government force.

  3. Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:47 pm
    "Granted, these figures are not official. They are
    based on Sarlo's estimates of the amount of income
    that families of various size would need to purchase all
    of the basic necessities of life in Canada, including
    food, clothing, housing, hygiene, telephone and
    transportation."

    Estimates, guesses, approximations...Means absolutely
    NOTHING. Just hand waving and number magic. These are the
    kinds of people who conveniently forget that once someone
    falls off EI and welfare they just aren't counted in the
    'unemployment rate' anymore.

    Lets look at the child mortality rate instead...
    Oh...sorry, the BC government does not count that
    anymore...How about food-bank demand?

    "Sarlo does not think so. He contends that more research
    is needed to explain the recent decline in poverty
    numbers."

    He does not think so, needs more research...then why are
    you piping off? Premature publishing, thats a problem for
    some righties I guess.

    " It is sad that we have anyone living on an income
    insufficient to afford the basic necessities."

    A bit further along he complains that increasing welfare
    entitlements in the past was counterproductive. So who
    exactly are the 1.6 million 'poor' he quotes and how are
    they counted? Does this include all the people working in
    McJobs for McWages? The homeless and disenfranchised? Or
    is it just the people who depend upon welfare? I bet he
    doesn't support higher minimum wage or corporate taxation
    levels?

    By all means donate some cash or time to the London
    Mission though!

  4. by bmac
    Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:26 pm
    Poverty is the condition of a human being who does not have sufficient economic and other resources to
    live with the dignity, choices and power which support full participation in society. It is far more than basic survival.Poverty is not inevitable.People do not choose poverty. At the root of poverty are systemic economic, social and political factors
    that go beyond individuals.
    According to Dr. Sharon Stroik - CPRN associate and City of Calgary strategist.
    In 2002, more than 82,000 employed Calgarians earned less than $9 an hour; over half of these
    low-wage workers were over the age of 25.11 These are not teenagers or students from
    comfortable homes, but adults who must somehow sustain themselves and their families on less
    than a living wage.
    In 2001, 58,225 Calgarians over the age of 15 earned more than $75,000, while almost five times
    as many (280,725) earned less than $20,000.
    In 2002, more than 82,000 employed Calgarians earned less than $9 an hour; over half of these
    low-wage workers were over the age of 25.
    The purchase of housing has become prohibitive for many and a growing number of renters are spending in excess of 45% of gross income on rent.
    The only way that we have ever reduced poverty in Canada is by moving the line and that is what the Fraser Institute 'research' has done again.



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