Reality Of Racism

Posted on Thursday, February 23 at 10:43 by Anonymous
Although they are more highly educated than average, this second generation has the most difficulty finding steady employment at decent wages, said Leslie Cheung, a graduate student in public policy at Simon Fraser University and author of the study. Canadian-born workers from visible minorities are younger then the average worker, explaining part of the gap. But they still lag behind when compared to white workers in the same age group, according to the study, which compared unemployment rates, income and representation in lower and higher skilled occupations. Among other things, the study found Canadian-born visible minorities were over-represented in part-time and temporary jobs. "With the young Canadian-born worker of color population now entering the work force in large numbers, and the ever increasing migration of people of color to Canada, the reality of racism must be confronted from all sectors of society, rather than denied." http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-02-23T000612Z_01_N22194807_RTRIDST_0_CANADA-LIFE-CANADA-JOBS-COL.XML [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on February 24, 2006]

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  1. Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:11 pm
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    no valid storey <br />
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    Bad link <p>---<br>People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. <br />
    Alexei Sayle

  2. Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:34 pm
    They changed it after I previewed it. It's fixed.


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  3. Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:56 pm
    THANKEE!

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    People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.
    Alexei Sayle

  4. Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:28 am
    I don't know who posted this but thatnk you for doing so. This said, I find it hard to believe after all of the debates and discussion that has occurred on this site that people would still take a study like this at face value.

    The study is authored by an Asian woman named Ashley Leung, a minoirity who may or may not have an axe to grind. It is essentially a Marxist Critque of unemployment and income rates.

    It expressed amazement that "white Canadians make 5,000 more on average than 2ns generation minorities." (funny how Asians are allowed to think racially but we're not)

    Whites are a group, they are not given the status they once had and rightfully deserve as either English or French Canadian, though it could just as easily refer to unassimilated Russian immigrants in Toronto these days.

    Essentially, "whites" made more on average and had a 13.3% unemplyment rate versus 15.5% for minorities. Due to the author's belief in the laughably dubious notion on "absolute equality", minorities are stated as being "overrepresented" in low-wage jobs, as if Canadians owe newcomers a ladder up society.

    It is stated that 2nd generation minorities have no language barriers and have better than average credentials--therefore they are treated unfairly. In reality of course, many 2nd generation Canadians are not culturally assimilated if they are even from a compatible culture in the first place. It is impossible to assimliate so many immigrants at a time (260,000) every year anyway. They simply change the old order and displace it, just as natives were displaced by waves of European immigration.

    The author claimed that racism must be "dealt with" as minorities make up an increasingly large portion of our population, and many immigrants who come annually are minorities.

    What the author doesn't mention is that in the past minorities and immigrants were not allowed to have a sense of entitlement in a coutnry they did not contribute much towards building or creating. The unemployment rate of whites at 13.3% is HUGE, and in reality a reflection partially of mass immigration and competition therefore for jobs with minorities who, at 15+% unemployment, often immgrate to a country that already has a glut of unemployed--this is why minorities have a higher unemplyment rate, they are not needed and also are not always culturally compatible with the country they are in the process of changing and in the end, ruining through sheer numbers with the blessing of our government of course. In reality it is shocking the 2 unemplyment rates are so close.

    "Racism" is part of natural selection and people usually self-segregate without even being aware of it in schools and other public places. Most ethnic groups choose to hire their own, and the author's suggestion of "dealing with" the "problem of racism" in reality only means passing more legislation that bars whites (esepcially white males) from the workplace to lower unemployment rates of minorities and equalize the representation of "minorities" who often make up the majority in major cities where they are still granted majority status.

    Essentially, "dealing with racism" doesn't mean dealing with the rash of hate crime against white women by minority males in Canada that is endemic in America, it means depriving whites of the economic status they earned in the soceity they designed and built that is necessary if English and French Canadians are to survive. Minorities fully intend to take over our society and this is simply more evidence of that. It is also an attempt to rob white Canadians if their living space and of course legitimize female roles in the work place where the mixing with minorities will ensue, rendering the anti-white liberals and their minority closer to their ultimate goal of eliminating the problem of "racism"--facilitating the large scale mixing of whites with other races and eliminating them altogether, which for some was the while point all along.

    Sorry Ms. Leung, not buying. It is refreshing to see that after over 40 years of Marxis alien influence and communist brainwashing that white Canadians still outperform their largely ungrateful guests, but I know what "dealing with the race problem" really means--it means dealing with the problem of whites existing at all. Nice try.






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  5. by julius
    Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:40 am
    "Whites are a group, they are not given the status they once had and rightfully deserve as either English or French Canadian"

    Whats wrong with just being called Canadian? This english/french thing has burdened our nation since confederation, and has historically lead to political instability and hatred in our nation. I think its a good thing that our country isnt divided by only french and english now as it was once.

    ""Racism" is part of natural selection and people usually self-segregate without even being aware of it in schools and other public places"

    Well I just dont believe this, I mean people can identify with others who may look or talk the same way they do, but thats an issue of familiarity, especially if they are in a new environment that they are not used to. Now that being said I dont see why people cant naturally accept others for superficial differences such as skin colour. Im white and while ther is obviously a difference from me and someone from India, I have nothing against them and can see no reason to be afraid of them. I think racism is more of an issue of economics and poverty, everyone, not just white poeple is capable and has blamed other races for living in poor conditions. Instead of blaming the people who are truly responsible for poverty, race is always thrown into the situation and is a way to diffuse anger against those who are truly responsible. I think this is done by the media and other interrest groups who continuously feed our society with garbage to take our attention away from the real facts. It is such a lame copout, and I get more surprised every day when I see posting like this. Lol maybe the best way to look at it is it is a way to engage discussion, people have to keep cool and look deeper into the situation. Maybe it will help people realize the real issues.

  6. Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:50 am
    Thank you for responding. I'll explain my concerns:

    Julius "Whats wrong with just being called Canadian? This english/french thing has burdened our nation since confederation, and has historically lead to political instability and hatred in our nation. I think its a good thing that our country isnt divided by only french and english now as it was once."

    ---This is what Trudeau thought. He thought that but weakening the influence of the English in English Canada, that the French would simply be "one more ethnic group" when they left Quebec. I can honestly tell you Julius, that just being "Canadian" is not the end of the world, but now in Toronto at least immigrants are no longer "Canadian" or even hyphenated like "Italian Canadian", they are just Brazilian, Indian, Mexican, and so forth. They don't even pretend they are Canadian as they usually outnumber the host culture anyway.

    Also, even if all immigrants called themselves "Canadian", if being Canadian is reduced to meaning any culture, then the word "Canadian" is a meaningless word as being Canadian is not a distinct culture anymore. Multiculturalism is not culture, it is the absence of culture.

    If you think a country where the French and English dislike each other is bad--remember that it usually was PEACEFUL dislike.

    Just wait until the next economic depression and you will get to see the joys of 100+ languages in Toronto fighting each other. :(


    Julius: "that being said I dont see why people cant naturally accept others for superficial differences such as skin colour.


    ---Colour may be superficial, but it signifies differences of race, while are NOT superficial, they are fundamental. Interestingly enough, colour is not the best way to determine the race of a human being, bone structure is but this cannot be easily examined until someone becomes a skeleton unless you could do a full-body X-ray.


    Juliu: "Im white and while ther is obviously a difference from me and someone from India, I have nothing against them and can see no reason to be afraid of them."

    ---I'm not afraid of them either. Not at all. However, I am afraid of 300,000 new people a year annually. The fear is not individual minoriites--Canada has always had racial and a few cultural minorities. However, the question is the collective impact of MILLIONS of newcomers who will change Canada into a country of minoritiy races and cultures by their very physical presence. It's simply inevitable.

    Physical integration will also lead to mixed-race offspring which is the death of any race via mongrelization.


    Julius: "I think racism is more of an issue of economics and poverty, everyone, not just white poeple is capable and has blamed other races for living in poor conditions. Instead of blaming the people who are truly responsible for poverty, race is always thrown into the situation and is a way to diffuse anger against those who are truly responsible. I think this is done by the media and other interrest groups who continuously feed our society with garbage to take our attention away from the real facts."


    ---Umm, I agree there are MANY causes of poverty, and economics is separate from race, however if you want to talk about the "real facts" then you should examine some of the real facts about race which are widely available from organization such as INTERPOL, the FBI in the U.S. and many other organizations.

    Julius: "It is such a lame copout, and I get more surprised every day when I see posting like this. Lol maybe the best way to look at it is it is a way to engage discussion, people have to keep cool and look deeper into the situation. Maybe it will help people realize the real issues."

    ---You still haven't explained Mr. Know-it-all what the "real issues" are....? I am quite unemotional. No worries here. Now that the Professor (or maybe CIA mole) has informed us about the "superficial nature" of skin colour rather than actually informing himself we can assume he's right....Looking deeper is a good piece of advice a certain person should follow himself. I was responding the the story posted by anon.

    How about responding to things I said which you feel are incorrect, instead of simply giving me an opinion about two of my comments and ignoring eveything else I said?



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    "A Liberal is someone who refuses to take his own side in a fight".

    -Robert Frost

  7. Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:13 am
    --This same kind of "stamping out activity has been done by nations and supranational organizations for a long time. Her is one example from 2001:


    New World Order vs. National Freedom
    By Sam Francis

    In the globalist New World Order, not only can we not have sovereign nation-states, but also we can't have any distinctions between peoples, nations and races at all. Hence, the latest slab of meat on the United Nations' platter of global do-good is the "World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance," to be held in Durban, South Africa, this summer. Guess which country is the most "intolerant" of all?

    The conference's main architect seems to be Mary Robinson, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, and last week she explained that "anti-immigrant sentiment in Europe" as well as "race relations in America" and "ethnic conflict in Africa and the plight of the world's indigenous peoples" will all be included on the conference's agenda. Does anyone really doubt that the conference is aimed at any nation other than the United States, with a few hard looks at other, mainly white, countries in Europe?

    Among the issues Robinson brought up to mention to Secretary of State Colin Powell were "racial profiling, even of those on death row. Tough issues that need to be looked at. Migration into the United States." And Powell thinks it's all swell. He avows he has a "personal and professional interest" in the conference, presumably because he's been such a victim of racism himself, you see.

    "We want to be forward-looking in how we eliminate negative practices that come from racism," the secretary intoned to Robinson. And Robinson eagerly expanded upon her vision of what the gala event will ponder.

    "She said the conference will take up accusations that police in the United States practice racial profiling, that death-row inmates are mostly minorities and that immigrants face discrimination and brutality along the Mexican border."

    What, you might ask, happened to slavery in Africa (today, not 200 years ago), ethnic slaughter in Indonesia, persecution of foreigners in China and other places where "racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance" are not exactly unknown? The conference may or may not get around to these, too, but everyone -- including Powell -- knows which country will be the main target of the new crusade.

    Also on the agenda will be what The Associated Press calls "the legacies of colonialism, slavery and current forms of xenophobia." "Legacies" suggests reparations for these and other wickednesses that whites have inflicted on non-whites. Nothing is said about the "legacies" of cannibalism, head-hunting, scalping, torture, mutilation, burning alive, human sacrifice, and much of the rest of the quaint and curious lore of non-white and non-Western civilizations. As usual, all the wickedness is due to white Westerners, none to non-whites of any region or period and certainly not to what non-whites ever did to whites.

    Not only will the Durban conference continue the long march against the white race, but also it will explore legislative measures to punish the victimizers and stamp out the "racism" and "related intolerance" that whites espouse. The conference, Robinson says, will "come up with concrete measures to address complaints and demands of victims -- including calls by some for compensation from years of injustice." This promises to offer a stage for the racial crackpots yelling for "reparations" for slavery in this country, as well as for just about every professional victim, grifter and grouser on the planet.

    Moreover, the "concrete measures" will probably include outright violations of this country's First Amendment by laws that muzzle what the conference will dub "racism." "I think what this world conference is really about is getting every country to improve its own capacity ... to have legislation which outlaws racism, which counters discrimination, which gives remedies," Robinson announced.

    "Legislation which outlaws racism" can only mean laws that silence anyone who expresses dissident views on race and race-related matters: not just skinheads who yell racial insults, but scientists who study racial genetics, social critics who question conventional wisdom about race, and writers and speakers who challenge scientific or historical claims about race. Several European nations are already enlightened by such repression.

    What is incredible is not that the United Nations and its professional airbags like Robinson bubble with joy over the prospect of expanding U.N. power on a global scale, but that American officials like Powell -- and presumably President Bush -- would endorse and encourage it. The Durban conference promises not only to kick U.S. national sovereignty in the teeth yet again, but to trample on constitutional rights and actually dictate what U.S. lawmakers and citizens may and may not do.

    Third World backwaters can swallow this stuff if they want, but Americans, in the government or out of it, need to tell Robinson and her cronies to go to Durban and not come back.



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    -Robert Frost

  8. by julius
    Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:45 am
    Well Perturbed I dont think well ever agreeno matter which facts I can dredge up for you.
    Ive lived in Toronto most of my life and have had the privalege to live in such an open culture, I wish that more Canadians had the same opportunity I have had to live with people from all around the world. I feel absolutly no threat by these people, and 'mongrolization' is the least of my worries in this world.


    I think what my question to you would be what do you think should be done to all of these people? What about second or third generation non-white people? How do you think we should deal with this situation?

  9. Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:15 am
    For people who believe there is a problem, there is no politically feasible solution as most westerners (especially Canadians) are simply not willing to fight to survive. They think that violence is a thing of the past because we have all this technology and prosperity.

    The problem with an "open culture" is after welcoming so many newcomers over 4 decades, the old culture (which by official government doctrine never did exist) is diluted and in the end, will be eliminated and replaced with a hybrid culture like that of India or Brazil. Forget about race for now, what about culture? English is now a minority language in Vancouver and likely Toronto as well? How can a culture survive if it is overwhelmed by newcomers and more than half of these cities are foreign born? Most Canadians live in cities not up north--this immigration will destroy us, at least as we were.

    Is this what you want to happen to Canada? The only peaceful solution is to peacefully deport whoever you think detracts from the host culture as Jean Marie Le Pen is campaigning on in France with the National Front, which is what America did when it deported peacefully over 2 million Mexicans in the 1930s without hurting a fly.

    Of course, if you desire people to leave, and the old country refuses to take them back, which is quite likely if they have lost their old language & culture and maybe even mixed with other racial groups, then....? Recreating the bicultural Canada of the 1960s and before would be almost impossible without the use of some force unless you could persuade people with words. Of course, like I said modern westerners have this idea we can survive without ever hurting anyone, or even their feelings. We cannot do so if we are forced to accept immigrants that are incompatible. Even if we didn't, eventually someone would want our living sapce and we would be forced to fight.

    Canadians who are unwilling to have the courage to face reality are not worth fighting for anyway. They are in denial and many are a lost cause.

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    "A Liberal is someone who refuses to take his own side in a fight".

    -Robert Frost

  10. Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:47 am
    Sorry I never answered this specifically:

    Julius: "What about second or third generation non-white people?"

    ---Personally I don't think second (and especially not third generation) non-white people are the issue at all. Canada was under no threat when we had a minority population around 2 or 3 percent. However it is now approaching 20 percent while the majority is being told it is simply a bunch of individuals who came here as immigrants and this is the issue. Opponents of liberalism are painted as fascists who want a racially based state, but I don't think a small number of minorities is a problem--as you mentioned there are many non-white people in Canada who have been here 2 or 3 or even 6 or 7 generations. The issue is the number I believe.

    This said although I think a happy medium can be found between liberalism and fascism, I acknowledge that as soon as you state you don't consider all people to be equally Canadian, there could be talk of going from one extreme to another....which is why we should have this debate while we still can.

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    "A Liberal is someone who refuses to take his own side in a fight".

    -Robert Frost

  11. Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:07 am
    YAWN!!! Yet another report concluding that racism and systemic discrimination are the "real" reasons why immigrants and other racial minorities are having a hard time realising their werstern materialist fantasies. Could it be that there are no jobs for them in the first place? If this is the real reason why immigrants (and by immplication racial minorities since the majority of Canada's immigrants are from third world nations primarily the over-representated nations of China and India) are not finding suitable employment then this would force Canada to do the unthinkable: REDUCE OUR IMMIGRANT INTAKE. God fordid we do this. How would the colonisation of Canada proceed (primarialy by India, China, and Islam) if Canada put the needs of the nation first instead of social workers, ethnic voting blocks, immigation lawyers, temp agencies that feed of this vast pool of cheap labour, immgration lawyers, and so on.<br />
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    Here are a couple of web links to follow (and they have nothing to do with Paul Fromm).<br />
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    <a href="http://www.notcanada.com">www.notcanada.com</a><br />
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    Scroll down and watch the CTV W-Five report. In this the reporter interviews the then minister of immigration Joe Volpe. He brings notcanada.com to Volpe's attention who predictably dismisses it like he did the Frasier report. Volpe comes off as arrogant, dismissive, ignorant, and nonchalant. If these are the types of people who staff Canada's immigration department then there is no hope. In the mean time lives are ruined and people are displaced just so that Volpe et al can import more votes and oil the cogs of the immigration industry.<br />
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    Another is this one: <a href="http://www.canadaimmigrants.com">www.canadaimmigrants.com</a>. <br />
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    I hope the arrogance of the authors of this web site towards Canada and Canadians is not lost on anybody. If you want to see racism towards Canadians then this is the link. Just read the link to Immigrants Demand Professional Compensation near the bottom of the web page. If you are not offended by its tone then you are a true blue liberal.<br />
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    The two websites help illustrate the "real" reasons and they are not solely racism and systemic discrimination: two reasons that cannot be fully proven, only suggested and the more time it is suggested the more willing the public accepts it as truth and this is very irresponsible.<br />
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    This report is a waste of time and money. It says nothing new and it refuses to consider another, and the more real, possibility that there are no jobs for immigrants here. Canana accepts too many immigrants. If we honestly want to address this issue then that is were we start. Reduce our immigrant intake now!!! The other option is to do what a leftists government woauld do and that is nothing and let our ruinous immigration continue.

  12. Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:22 am
    Hello again The Saint. As usual I enjoyed what you wrote but I have a few comments:

    1 - Don't be too mean to Paul Fromm. :)

    2 - Joe Volpe is a twit (and wants to be Prime Minister!!!) but he was simply a paid stooge as immigration minister. His job was to sell the B.S. the Prime Minister was handed by the one-worlders who control western governments. Be forgiving of serf ministers.

    3 - The W-Five Report started off by referring to the immigrants Canada accepts as "The best and the brightest". They may be the brightest from India and China, but those who live in Toronto could tell you that people who don't speak good or any English and those who go to university in notoriously corrupt countries like India where you can buy a degree are not necessarily the brightest and are usually often culturally incompatible. We have many bright Canadians who are unemplpyed of whom many I know--we don't need more.

    4 - I don't know about you The Saint but isn't it remarkable how much of a sense of entitlement immigrants have? Even the newscasters kept on referring to the selling job our government did in promising what they would attain--isn't this a land where people are supposed to be at least partially self-reliant? Immigrants then demand compensation when they are not treated like VIPs right away--even though past waves of largely European immgirants came in small numbers, assimilated completely and were given no handouts and often were poor peasant farmers or dishwashers for at least one generation.

    Why is it we let immigrants be seen as the priority? How can people not see that this is the anithesis of national sovereignty and culture? Especially when immigrants are culturally incompatible and in other ways as well. Of course they won't fit in as well. It's not their country, but our government denies we ever had a culture.....only the French Canadians avoided it with their already strong nationalism in the 1960s...

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    "A Liberal is someone who refuses to take his own side in a fight".

    -Robert Frost

  13. Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:27 am
    I should add how insulting it was to hear Joe Volpe say immigrants have the skills "Canada desperately needs" even though we were kind of like the country that designed the AVRO Arrow and CANDU reactor, along with thousands of other things--thanks for the recognition of home grown Canadian achievement--assholes!!!

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    "A Liberal is someone who refuses to take his own side in a fight".

    -Robert Frost

  14. Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:14 am
    Paul Fromm does make valid points that are deserving of attention. However his association with poeple like Ernst Zundel, Wolfgang Droeg and the Heritage Front make him an easy target for ad-homminem attacks. Therefore he is easily dismissed just like a report from the Fraser Institute is dismissed by virtue of the fact that it a conservative think tank. Not so for the two web sites I posted. They are authored by non-white immigrants or children of. <a href="http://www.notcanada.com">www.notcanada.com</a> has a very enlightening forum discussing the struggles many immigrants go through because they fell for the lies fed them by our government and the immigration industry.<br />
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    The "best and the brightest" should be taken with a grain of salt considering the fact that most of our immigrants enter the country through the family class stream. They do not require language skills or pertinent job skills to land here (you witness this first hand in Toronto). Liberal estimates figure that around 25% of our immigrants enter the country via the job skills category. The rest comprise refugees, family, and economic which, according to Bruce Campbell, has proven to be a failure a job cration and a route of choice for organized crime. So much for the "best and the brightest."<br />
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    As for point 4 you are right. I too have noticed an attitude of entitlement in today's immigrant. The <a href="http://www.canadaimmigrants.com">www.canadaimmigrants.com</a> site illustrates this. But what do you expect from them? This is the attitude fostered by Liberals. Earlier streams of immigrants came to Canada with nothing and bulit something. Today's immigrant expects the six figure income upon landing.



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