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New Government Fighting Continental Integration In Beef Industry!

Posted on Sunday, January 11 at 00:55 by N Say
"The reality here is that because there is such an integrated movement of livestock that there was a premature assumption by the U.S. but the reality is that we'll go through our process and let the science work." - Clay Serby "We got to think for the whole industry, for the whole two countries. It's a problem and we have to face the fact that it is a problem in the cattle industry and I believe that the cattle industry in North America is one and I hope our politicians see it that way." - Walter Schmidt, rancher now a humdinger from our 2nd-in-command: "Both governments understand clearly that we have an integrated market, that's what we're dealing with, and it serves no one's interest to disintegrate that market, to move away from harmonization of that market." - Anne McLellan

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  1. by Dave Ruston
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:36 am
    Wow, all these people sound like real winners! Klein saying, \" An American bull sniffing a Canadian cow...\" that`s quite symbolic!

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    Dave Ruston

  2. by Anonymous
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:43 am
    And McClellan is quite the Canadian patriot, isn\'t she? :)

  3. by avatar Dr Caleb
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:12 pm
    We don't test every cow because the disease (BSE) takes about 6 years to gestate. Testing a 5 year old cow would be pointless. Why don't we test every newborn for Altzheimers?<P> And Japan only tests cows over 30 months of age. They have found several cows infected with BSE in the last 7 months. Testing is also very expensive, and time consuming. The meat would not be able to be consumed until the tests are complete, and without major funding, the test wouldn't be complete until the meat is rotten.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

  4. by avatar Dr Caleb
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:15 pm
    How difficult is the concept that we sell hundreds of thousands of cows yearly southward for breeding, and we buy hundreds of thousands of cows northward for the same purpose? That pretty much means each market depend on the other, hence 'integrated'.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

  5. by Anonymous
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:24 pm
    It might be integrated, but the U.S. is still feeding animal parts to cows, according to one U.S. scientist, they still make it in the U.S., so even if Canada doesn\'t feed the same way and a cow gets the disease, from the feed, but came from Canada originally, we are going to be blamed. This really irks me!

  6. by Anonymous
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:47 pm
    Doc, if we sell them thousands, and they sell us thousands, why on earth don\'t we just use our own cows, and ensure the safety of our own meat? Why leave it to chance, and rely on another country?

  7. by avatar Dr Caleb
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:05 pm
    You cannot ensure the genetic health of a breeding population by seggregating it. That, over time, leads to reinforcement of recessive genes, and causes birth defects.<p> Fresh genetic material is needed to ensure the survival of the species.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

  8. by avatar Dr Caleb
    Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:13 pm
    Nethier the US nor Canada has fed cow parts to cows since 1997. The US does still allow cow parts to be fed to other animals with multiple stomachs (ruminants) such as sheep, goats, deer and elk. Canada does not. There are rumours that feed mills didn't know about this ban, and to this day still don't.<p> Any cow born before August 1997 is at risk to develop BSE very soon. BSE ocurrs naturally in cows; 1 in 4 million times, just as JCD ocurrs naturally in humans. They don't have to have been fed infected feed or infected animal by-products.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

  9. by Anonymous
    Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:24 am
    Yeah but doc, it could be a result of the large amounts of antibiotics, hormones, steroids, and other crap they give the cows, to maximize profits......maybe we should all go organic....the entire world would want our beef!

  10. by avatar Dr Caleb
    Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:18 pm
    I wholly agree. When I was working as a meat cutter, there used to be a farm in southern Alberta that produced 100% natural beef. It was about 10% more money, but when we cut it, you could even smell the difference. It actually smelled sweet, like coffee with too much sugar.<p> Big difference in taste too.<p> <p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain

  11. by Anonymous
    Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:45 pm
    Then why do we need trade if they send us the same amount we send them.

    I once read that 2/3rds of Costa Rica is grazing ground for the US beef market. That puts them in a rather precarious position, don\'t you think ?

    The resolution to this:

    Do not eat RED MEAT. It\'s not healthy, it\'s contributing to cancer, according to the Canadian Cancer Society, so why are we worried about this ?

    If we have Mad Cow, and they have Mad Cow, who the hell wants to eat red meat ?

    Not I !!

    Until they start checking each animal like they do in Japan, take a holiday. Give it up.

  12. by Anonymous
    Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:47 pm
    No bull, that puts them in the drivers seat, no ?

  13. by Anonymous
    Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:29 am
    Yeah, in Toronto my uncle once bought organic steaks at a Valu-mart, and they tasted MUCH better.....don\'t ask me why they were sold at \"Valu-mart\". :) They were more like almost double the price, as Toronto is a ways from Alberta, unless it came from Ontario and they were just gouging. :)



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