David Emerson's 20000 + Partisan Zealots
Posted on Wednesday, March 22 at 09:24 by davidc
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As you may know, David Emerson, who was elected as the Liberal party MP for the riding of Vancouver Kingsway, recently decided to leave the Liberal party and sit as a member of the Conservative party. Stephen Harper immediately named David Emerson to the Conservative cabinet as minister of international trade with responsibility for the Pacific Gateway. Do you approve or disapprove of the actions taken by David Emerson ?
Somewhat disapprove
14%
Strongly disapprove
48%
Source: Ipsos-Reid
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 800 British Columbia adults, conducted from Feb. 7 to Feb. 12, 2006. Margin of error is 3.5 per cent.
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Thinking again about federal politics, please tell me if you agree or disagree with the following statement: David Emerson, the Vancouver Liberal who crossed the floor and was appointed to the new Conservative cabinet, should immediately resign his seat in the House of Commons and run in a by-election?
Agree
62%
Source: Ipsos-Reid / CanWest Global
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,000 Canadian adults, conducted from Feb. 7 to Feb. 9, 2006. Margin of error is 3.1 per cent.
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Over two-thirds (67%) of Macleans.ca voters told us that David Emerson should step down and run in a by-election before being able to cross the floor.
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The prime minister’s choice of former Liberal cabinet minister David Emerson, who was elected as a Liberal in January, as minister of international trade was given the thumbs-down by 58 per cent who either disagreed (35 per cent) or strongly disagreed (23 per cent).
"There is clearly discomfort with the Emerson appointment and the appointment of an unelected Conservative, Mr. Fortier, seems to upset people even more," Jim Meek, editor of the Inside Out Report, said in a news release. The Inside Out Report is published by Bristol.
The survey interviewed 1,800 Atlantic Canadians between Feb. 16 and March 5 and is considered accurate within 2.2 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
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It is obviously time for you to listen to Canadian voters and give us back our democractic rights. Run in a by-election now David Emerson.
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Harper style of democracy, I hope that the message gets through
their thick skulls that David Emerson wasn't elected.
He wasn't elected as a Conservative. He would NEVER have been
elected in Vancouver-Kingsway as a Conservative.
Therefore, Emerson/Harper pulled a 100% rotten trick and nobody
can exonerate them on a mere technicality.
Ethics commissioner Shapiro ignores the facts and accepts Emerson's explanation that his double-cross was motivated not by personal gain but by his desire to do what was best for his constituents.
Shapiro says that unless morality is legislated (entrenched in law),politicians (and it would seem ethics commissioners) don't know the difference between right and wrong!
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Subject:No honor amongst the dishonorable
Immorality is so endemic in politics that even the ethics
commissioner thinks it's okay!
Ethics commissioner validates Emerson's behavior
Emerson and Harper did nothing wrong!
Ethics commissioner says no breach of politician's code of ethics.
Nothing criminal or immoral here.
The rules allow this behavior in the game of politics.
We're all just naive about how the game of politics is played!
It is a game of chicanery in wch the players are not persons of principle and honour. In the game of politics the drive for power and personal advancement trumps all other considerations!
For those of us who were expecting some honesty and integrity in politics...GET OVER IT!
chicane A noun
-- trickery, chicanery, chicane, guile, wile, shenanigan
the use of tricks to deceive someone
╚wrongdoing; wrongful conduct; misconduct; actus reus
╚falsification; misrepresentaation
╚deception; deceit; dissembling; dissimulation
╚trickery, chicanery, chicane, guile, wile, shenanigan
╚jugglery
╚fraud; fraudulence; dupery; hoax;
But if our political leaders are not persons of honour and are not responsive to the will of the people perhaps they do not deserve to be honoured but rather despised!
and david is looking through rose coloured glasse if he thinks he is going to get away with it,people are showing real anger and that just doesn't dissapear overnight.
IE. Asked the Ethics Commisioner to look at it..
The NDP's Bill to outlaw crossings will never pass, but at least they're trying to do something about it.
The biggest floor crosser is Shapiro, who stated that if Grewal had been offered benefits by Martin, it would have been a conflict, but when Emerson was, it was OK.
I can see an MP, or MLA quit the Party and sit as an independent, but not jumping from one to another, especially within a few days after the elections, without the slightest
justifiable reason . At least Belinda had some complaints against her Party's leadership, but Emerson acted purely from greed.
Emerson is a fish in the barrel when parliament opens and a dead duck as a minister.
Ed Deak.
it was the NDP
Ed Deak.
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pull out all stops
enjoy Fascism
Canadians have NO say in governemt decision
All quite on the up andup according to the rules
Definitions of Crossing the floor on the Web:
In politics, crossing the floor is to vote against party lines. The term originates from the British House of Commons, which is configured with the Government and Opposition facing each other on rows of benches. Votes, or divisions, are taken by entering lobbies to the left and right of the chamber to have one's vote tallied; the "Ayes Lobby" is on the Government side and the "Noes Lobby" on the Opposition side. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_floor
It is also sometimes used to describe a member who leaves their party entirely and joins the opposite side of the House, such as leaving an opposition party to support the government, or even leaving one opposition party to join another. This usage exists not only in Westminster system parliaments, but also in legislatures in presidential systems. In Canada, the term "crossing the floor" is used exclusively to refer to switching parties which occurs occasionally at both the federal and provincial levels.
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Ezra Pound
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Harper says Belarus election "was not free and fair" <br />
Well Mr. Harper, perhaps we should clean up democratic issues in Canada before lecturing other countries on how their democracy should work. <br />
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What about being FAIR to the voters of the riding of Vancouver Kingsway ? When are the voting rights going to be respected by you and your current Minister of International Trade David Emerson ? When will they get an MP that represents the party they voted for ? <br />
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Full story at:<br />
<a href="http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/16542/index.php">http://bc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/16542/index.php</a><br />
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yes yes yes! Ed
He can’t and won’t ever admit it was wrong though. Harper is locked in as well. Excellent, they are stuck with their own bad smell and they will continue to reek. A story only has legs as long as the subject resists; as long as defenders keep defending the indefensible and as long as investigations find nothing…yet.
The planets are aligned for a very long run on this story. And.....every Ministerial move will be analyzed as if he were one thing or another and as to whether he is acting in his own self interests or whoever elses.
Let’s enjoy the (hopefully never ending) show!