One Suggestion On How To Help Promote Canadian Sovereignty

Posted on Monday, June 27 at 10:36 by canadabob
2) The "North American Security and Prosperity Initiative" does not have the word Canada in it - let's keep it that way! 3) Canadians know that the word Harmonization begins with the word Harm! Stop the Americanization of Canada! 4) The Americanization of Canada? Whose "Big Idea" was that? Certainly not a true Canadian! 5) NAFTA-plus No way Not when Canada has its say! Join the Red and White Ribbon Campaign for Canadian Sovereignty! --- Canadabob [Edited for spelling and grammer June 27.]

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  1. Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:15 pm
    Without the glaring mistakes... it would fare well. ;)

  2. Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:37 pm
    Sorry, but no. The phrases are too wordy for posters, not to mention too anti-american and radical sounding for public consumption. Your heart is in the right place, but a poster has to sell its message in about 6 words or less.

  3. Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:37 am
    You have made a good point Anonymous.

    Short-and-to-the-point is often the best.

    Each phrase standing alone is better.

    And you can add this one to the list.

    When will Canada not be Canada? Answer - As soon as NAFTA-plus, the "Big Idea", the "Grand Bargain" or "Deep Integration" (pick any one of these) makes it something else!

    Canadabob





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    Canadabob

  4. Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:59 pm
    "How can we promote Canadian Sovereignty?"
    easy as one, two, three!
    1.Blow off th Royals
    2.Ditto "British' Common law
    3.Ditto central fiat debt-dollar fractional banking

  5. Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:11 pm
    Actually I think removing the monarchy would make us less sovereign, not
    more. You do realise that Her Majesty's laws are what allows you to enjoy the
    freedom you have, right? Get rid of the monarchy and we'll have something
    much worse: President Martin. Do you think he would allow the existence of
    a 'Loyal Opposition'? I doubt it. Removing the monarchy would make it that
    much easier for the Liberals to take total control of the country, and it would
    make us that much easier to assimilate in to American society. The Queen is
    Canada, and Canada would not be the way it is today without the monarchy.
    The US is a republic, and look what has happened to them. I've seen enough
    of their idea of 'civilised' society so that I can say, with much pride, 'God Save
    the Queen.'

  6. by avatar Jesse
    Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:34 pm
    No, Martin would remain as Prime Minister, and we would get a different rich white man as president (or, perhaps, king, depending what we decided to name the position).

    More likely, since the queen has very little current power, very little additional power would devolve onto other positions such as PM. While I agree that Canada has benefitted from having ties to the Monarchy, I do not think that we would descend into fascism without them.

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    Every time you complain about the moderators, god kills a kitten.

  7. Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:51 am
    But you forget that it has mainly been the Liberal government during the past
    50 years that has tried to reduce the powers of the Queen. Before Canada,
    Britain, Australia, New Zealand, and the other Commonwealth countries
    started limiting the monarch's powers, we were all strong, mainly
    independent nations. Then our governments started limiting the monarch's
    power, and looked what happened: Britain will eventually become a state in
    the US of Europe, and Canada will become an abused territory of Fortress
    North America(Australia and New Zealand as well probably).

    By limiting the monarch's power and presence, they have stripped away an
    important part of our identity: being citizens of the Kingdom of Canada.
    Canadians used to be proud of their monarchs and their northern kingdom.
    Now you'd be lucky to find a person on the street who knows that Canada is a
    kingdom. All the Liberals had to do after that was allow greater US presence
    in our media, drowning us in American culture in the process. Canadians are
    more concerned about the affairs and gossip of a foreign country than they
    are about their own nation, and can you really blame them? When everything
    American is being forced down our throats, you become concerned about
    what you know.

    Canada, as the Queen once said, is a nation that has been blessed far beyone
    others. Wonderful people, a vast country full of natural resources, and
    freedom to be who we want to be, thanks to Her Majesty's laws. We have so
    much, and we had the chance to become a strong, proud, glorious kingdom.
    With everything we have, we could have becoming something great. Instead,
    our politicans have sold us out, with Canada becoming an irrelevant colony of
    a tyrannical, selfish, and self-absorbed super-power.

    You can't go anywhere anymore without seeing 'Canada-US'. It's like its one
    word now. All I want is too treat the US like neighbours, not family, not best
    friends, just neighbours. It's good to be friendly, but let's keep our own
    affairs to ourselves. I want to see a proud, independent, Kingdom of Canada
    one day. Will it happen? I'm sad to say I doubt it. But there's always hope.

  8. Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:04 pm
    I think the point should be made that if you look at how the US functions all over the world it really would make no difference what sort of monarchy or system Canada had.

    The political system has always been subservient to the economic system, this was as true in the 17th century as it is today. This is why you can't legislate changes to Coca-Cola. The US republic is not stucturally different from the British one, of those who set it up many were british. Remember, democracy has always been feared by american elites. Great Britain currently acts the same way as the US, it went to Iraq, etc., yet it has its system of governance,the US has its own. We didn't go, but not because of some structural difference in our political system but because the guy in charge at the time had a different agenda.

    Powerful people can always find a way to take control, thats why you always need mechanisms to keep them in control. Canada has never had that, we can bicker and argue about why, but that's irrelevant. Switzerland has a similar federal system but more democratic tools at ALL levels, including national and they aren't out starting wars. Their corporations are as lousy as the next guys, but the swiss people won't feel their effects as much because they can VOTE on them.

    If Canada had MORE democracy than the US then we very well could be that gifted nation. Democracy is not an american invention and is not welcome there, why not do it right?

  9. by RPW
    Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:39 pm
    You wanna promote sovereignty in Canada? Then promote ease of travel. Where are our intercity high speed railways? Where are our LRT's? Where are our tax credits for being a tourist in our own country?

    Sovereignty is all about people meeting people. How can one meet their fellow Canucks when it's far cheaper to go to Hawaii than to Newfoundland or Victoria, or Iqaluit....?

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    "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
    -Max Planck

  10. Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:52 pm
    It will take a nation of Freemen to create a sovereign nation.<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.personalsovereignty.org/">http://www.personalsovereignty.org/</a><br />
    <br />
    "We are born free and united brothers, each as much a great lord as the other, while you are slaves of one sole man. I am the master of my body, I dispose of myself, I do what I wish, I am the first and the last of my nation . . . . Subject only to the Great Spirit. <br />
    <br />
    Anonymous Huron, ca. "<br />
    <br />
    "The politicians don't just want your money. They want your soul. They want you to be worn down by taxes until you are dependent and helpless. When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both." -James Dale Davidson"<br />
    <br />
    It is Personal Sovereignty, a topic which few know and fewer still make a study of, yet thanks to the internet (while we have it) there are sites to acquire the the knowledge to claim their rights as they would to stake a mining claim. There is procedure one must know and follow do registrar their claim, whether of Personal Sovereignty of of mining.<br />
    <br />
    James Dale Davidson has some of it correct, and thats a start.<br />
    <br />
    There are damned few politicians who are in pocession of that which I speak, they are however, in the service of those who do know. It is those the politicians are in the service of and to whom, without Personal Sovereignty, we owe our souls to!<br />
    <br />
    unknown Huron of the 1700's understood Personal Sovereignty,and held it , until British common Law was forced upon him by gun barrel and pew.<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    It is the British Common Law system , as I am given to understand, we are to petition to register our claim as that systen is the ones that we are enslaved by.<br />
    <br />
    There are few who grasp the weight of what I am sharing with you and less in the study of it.<br />
    <br />
    I have extended offers to join in on this study as Study Buddies .<br />
    <br />
    No takers, Offer withdrawn. <br />
    <br />
    "It is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights"<br />
    And ya don't<br />
    Do any of you think I use the signatures I use for idle entertainment?<br />
    I assure you I do NOT!<br />
    <br />
    CWC and 4Canada have expressed an interest in personal growth and creating a different vision by which to advance (for the lack of a better word at the moment) on these pages. Still others <br />
    get stuck in the dichotomy of left/right or other such claptrap<br />
    <br />
    Those are red herrings! <br />
    <br />
    You are welcome to my share.<br />
    <br />
    For the genuine love of God, which part of the following are you not getting?<br />
    <br />
    "The Bar, the Pulpit and the Press Nefariously combine To Cry up an usurpt Pow'r And stamp it Right Devinne." -1695<br />
    <br />
    Sheesh!Thick as a brick!<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    Diogenes<p>---<br> [juris ignorantia est cum jus nostrum ignoramus]<br />
    <br />
    it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights" <br />
    <br />
    lex ferenda



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