Big Oil Getting Desperate: Making Oil With Nuclear Energy

Posted on Saturday, October 15 at 13:38 by chall
Big Oil Getting Desperate: Making Oil With Nuclear Energy by Jerome Paris Thu Sep 22, 2005 <http://salo.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/22/183959/686>; Total May Use Atomic Power At Oil-Sand Project <http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB112733531386947686,00.html?mod=todays_us_marketplace>; (WSJ, behind subscription wall) PARIS -- French oil giant Total SA, amid rising oil and natural-gas prices, is considering building a nuclear power plant to extract ultraheavy oil from the vast oil-sand fields of western Canada. This comes as oil prices -- driven even higher by Hurricane Katrina and now the threat of Hurricane Rita -- are removing lingering doubts about the long-term profitability of extracting the molasseslike form of oil from sand, despite the fact that the output is much more expensive to produce and to upgrade than is conventional crude. At the same time, prices of natural gas -- which oil-sands producers have relied on to produce the steam and electricity needed to push the viscous oil out of the ground -- have risen 45% in the past year. That is prompting Total, which holds permits on large fields in Alberta that contain oil sands, to consider building its own nuclear plant and using the energy produced to get the job done. In Canada, Total holds half of an oil-sands permit in Alberta and has secured more heavy-oil acreage with the purchase of Deer Creek Energy Ltd., located in the same western province. Total said it plans to invest $7 billion in Deer Creek, on top of the $1.4 billion it expects to pay for the company. The company says it could one day produce 200,000 barrels of heavy crude a day, close to 8% of Total's current global output.

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  1. Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:25 pm
    So what is, according to the author, wrong with the concept of using nuclear energy to produce oil? Seems to me it could be technically and economically sound.

    Certainly, there it is a good idea to develop Canadian sources of oil, isn't it?

  2. Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:02 pm
    I agree. Total has been running N-reactors in France for decades, without incident.

    Oilsands is the largest user of Natural Gas in Alberta. It's used to produce electricity. Using nuclear energy to produce that electricity would free up millions of gigjoules of gas per day, and could only reduce the cost to heat our homes.

    Plus the grid could use a couple extra CANDU's online.


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  3. Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:39 pm
    All those years Canada was nuke free. Or was it? Now good old greed for oil revenues replaces all reasoning. Oil is going to be the end of civilization as we know it. At least the end of "civilized". Everyone is tripping over each other to make the mighty dollar from oil and no restrictions on how it is being done. Oil, oil, oil! Wars and spats within countries all over oil. Use all means to get it and sell it as quick as you can. So much for the shortage. At least now the quest for oil is called what it is. Greed!

  4. Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:27 am
    In order to extend the oil orgy for a few more years we're going to saddle future generations with spent reactor fuel that stays radioactive for thousands of years? What are these guys using for brains?

  5. Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:29 am
    "Total has been running N-reactors in France for decades, without incident."

    Good for France for being the one of a few. Any ideas on how France is to rid of the waste material from Nuclear reactors. The solution of finding a facility to hold the radioactive materials FOREVER has not been found. I suppose this is one of those things we are to "worry about later". Since Nuclear weapon disarmament, there has been a problem getting rid of that quantity. Unless the Yanks start using the stuff as bomb material again, we will be faced with contamination from just the handling of it.

  6. Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:41 am
    >>In order to extend the oil orgy for a few more years we're going to saddle future generations with spent reactor fuel that stays radioactive for thousands of years? What are these guys using for brains?<<

    It seems the old arguments don't hold true in the greed market. Money prevails over sanity.



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