Secession Of Cascadia

Posted on Monday, November 15 at 14:06 by David Jones-Cook
But what about the Constitution? The Constitution is a contract between the People and the government, and the government has broken this contract by creating laws and executive powers that destroy our constitutional rights. The US government has handed over the powers and the moneys of the people to Corporations and their advocates (such as the World Trade Organization, and its predecessor NAFTA) at the direct expense of the People, our health, and our kids' futures. The US government has committed genocide, tortured and illegally incarcerated people (including US citizens) proving the "Land of the Free" to be the "Land of Hypocrisy". We demand the right to alter or abolish our relationship with the government, because this is our inherent right. We demand self-government, because without a say in what governs our lives, we are slaves to the political and economic interests that can buy the most power. Imagine democracy, where everyone has a say in his or her own life and in the workings of their communities. Although this may seem like a huge responsibility for individuals to take on, this responsibility already lies squarely on our shoulders. If we shirk it, fascism has a field day. It's time to get to work to determine our own futures. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/303305.shtml

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  1. Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:21 pm
    You know, this makes me sad, in a sense, to see, a corporate fascist agenda, divide a country, although not a perfect country, but one where Americans have a strong traditional sense of freedom. Nobody is more proud a Canadian than I, but I feel for these enlightened Americans who realize that they`re in trouble. But this also gives me hope in knowing that people like this generally tend to see Canada as their friend, and not some mere northern resource hinterland, ripe for the raping in the manifest destiny- imperialit mindset.

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    Dave Ruston

  2. Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:16 pm
    Wouldn't North America make more sense divided into 7-10 or more countries? AND THEN negotiate a free and open society zone? The disparity between Canada and the States now prevents any real negotiations to occur, but if that power were displaced to multiple centres, maybe we could actually make some progress in this part of the world.

    I think this is the best idea I've seen coming out of the election tragedy down south. At the same time, Canada should not even consider breaking apart until after the Americans have divied up their own power.

    G

  3. Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:10 pm
    Also of interest, and has more support is the Vermont independence movement. See: www.vermontrepublic.org

  4. Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:10 am
    Secessionism in the Pacific Northwest USA is nothing new. In 1941, several counties along the California/Oregon border attempted to secede from their respective states and form the State of Jefferson (The interim captial of Jefferson would have been Yreka, California). The movement was very strong and well organized, and might very well have lead to form what would have been the 49th state, but it came to a halt when Japan bombed Pearl harbor, entering the USA into WW2. You can read about this nearly forgotten part of US history at <A HREF="http://www.stateofjefferson.com">www.stateofjefferson.com</A>. I also maintain a website devoted to sedition, sovereignty and micro-nation websites at <A HREF="http://www.microfreedom.com">www.microfreedom.com</A>.

  5. Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:40 pm
    The reference to the Constitution being a contract between the population and government is not consitutional. The Constitution is an agreement of the majority census of the population to govern by a specific set of rules.

  6. Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:19 pm
    And all of this is of significance to gutless canucks for what reason, exactly?

    Go back to your self-congratulatory navel-gazing, you hosers. That's all you're good for.

  7. Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:38 am
    This is of great significance, if not only to remind Canadians that not all americans are hateful ignorant totalitarian thugs.
    In Canada, not all are self congratulatory navel gazers, although I've met quite a few. This website is testament to those who want a strong Canada, but clearly a DIFFERENT strong canada, and there's nothing wrong with that.
    The great thing about secessionism is that it is a form of POWER. Quebec has power, New Brunswick doesn't. Ontario has it because of the number of seats, but Manitoba doesn't. If a maritime or prairie province had half a brain they'd do exactly what Quebec is doing, which is use power to their advantage. Namely, you threaten to leave if Canada (the federal government)does not live up to it's obligations. Canadians have shown over and over again how they would stand with other parts of the country, even if it means a hit in the pocketbook. What people DONT want to see is an intermediary government which squanders it's resources and refuses to make those most prosperous pay their fair share. This is pretty reasonable.

    It's pointless to say what Canada should do about splitting up since unless you live in Quebec you have nothing to say about it. If the maritimes ever got together and said they'd leave Canada then I guarantee you'd suddenly see some investments from Canada.

    Even working with direct democracy is partly simply to scare politicians into doing whats right. I'd love to make up a bumper sticker with that quote from the guy who said, after the 1993 referendum, that it would be a hundred years before we'd see another national referendum. Unfortunately, one decade down, nine to go.



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