Economic `Armageddon' Predicted

Posted on Friday, December 03 at 11:50 by nancymarie
The result: U.S. consumers, who are in debt up to their eyeballs, will get pounded. Less a case of ``Armageddon,'' maybe, than of a ``Perfect Storm.'' Roach marshalled alarming facts to support his argument. To finance its current account deficit with the rest of the world, he said, America has to import $2.6 billion in cash. Every working day. That is an amazing 80 percent of the entire world's net savings. Sustainable? Hardly. Meanwhile, he notes that household debt is at record levels. Twenty years ago the total debt of U.S. households was equal to half the size of the economy. Today the figure is 85 percent. Nearly half of new mortgage borrowing is at flexible interest rates, leaving borrowers much more vulnerable to rate hikes. Americans are already spending a record share of disposable income paying their interest bills. And interest rates haven't even risen much yet. You don't have to ask a Wall Street economist to know this, of course. Watch people wielding their credit cards this Christmas. Roach's analysis isn't entirely new. But recent events give it extra force. The dollar is hitting fresh lows against currencies from the yen to the euro. Its parachute failed to open over the weekend, when a meeting of the world's top finance ministers produced no promise of concerted intervention. It has farther to fall, especially against Asian currencies, analysts agree. The Fed chairman was drawn to warn on the dollar, and interest rates, on Friday. Roach could not be reached for comment yesterday. A source who heard the presentation concluded that a ``spectacular wave of bankruptcies'' is possible. Smart people downtown agree with much of the analysis. It is undeniable that America is living in a ``debt bubble'' of record proportions. But they argue there may be an alternative scenario to Roach's. Greenspan might instead deliberately allow the dollar to slump and inflation to rise, whittling away at the value of today's consumer debts in real terms. Inflation of 7 percent a year halves ``real'' values in a decade. It may be the only way out of the trap. Higher interest rates, or higher inflation: Either way, the biggest losers will be long-term lenders at fixed interest rates. You wouldn't want to hold 30-year Treasuries, which today yield just 4.83 percent. More on this subject: (I combined these two realted articles . . . Dr. C) 04-12-02 05:14 Contributed by: Tristan We may well be at a turning point in our national history. Canada has, for a long time, remained fairly untouched - in national political terms - by the global and continental economy. While there have been lost jobs, challenged markets, and poor inflation management strategies, national politics have continued on; it has been business as usual. Now however, there is the distinct risk of a major economic shift. The US dollar is on a sharp decline, and will probably slip further – a lot further. This has already pushed up the Canadian dollar’s value significantly, and is now starting put our national economy at risk. This could cripple trade and call the modern economic fundamentalist line of thought into question. It would, at the very least, create a stronger market for alternative views. Rest of article: http://www.freenation.ca/paperusdollar.html

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  1. Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:57 pm
    Before the smug laffin over this doomsday scenario starts, guess who'd go down with us and stay longer, O Canada?

  2. Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:13 pm
    Which is why I posted this story. Everyone on this board knows our economies are too tightly integrated to ignore what happens down south.



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  3. Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:25 pm
    Guess you didn't catch the 2nd article, huh, Jay?

    Its one of those reasons we need to balance out our economy and
    provide more Canadians with Canadian goods.

  4. Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:15 pm
    The Anne Coulter thing was nice TR, but let's just nip this offtopic thing in the bud right now. The topic is 'Economic Collapse and it's effects on Canada.'



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  5. Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:23 pm
    Hey, I hear China wants to invest in the Oilsands. We have resources to sell, and China has 1 billion folks who want to live like Americans. China could be like Canada's new Cuba. That would really chafe a lot of people down south. Or, just sell the oil out of Ft. McMurray in euros, just for kicks, and then go back to having the Bank of Canada actually create money rather than debt. Wow. Wouldnt that be something.

  6. Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:24 pm
    Japan Oilsands already has it's own extraction facility in Fort Mac. Why not China? ;)


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  7. Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:51 am
    Why not China? They still have little respect for human rights and the overall dignity of man.

    Let's be honest, trading with Cuba has kept us a powerful voice there, but it has done little to bring change. We already see an increasing amount of trade between Canada and China, but we should always look at the bigger picture.

    China could be the best trading partner we could have, but now is not yet the time.

    Roy

  8. Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:08 am
    Roy:

    "Why not China? They still have little respect for human rights and the overall dignity of man. "

    What does that say about the US?

  9. by RPW
    Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:34 pm
    Trade does not care about social issues.............."the economy" is an amoral creature, verging on the immoral.

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  10. Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:04 pm
    No matter who we sell to, CANADA should control its own resources! But I agree with switching to the Euro to sell and buy on the world market.

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  11. Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:51 pm
    Autarky is the solution. (Look it up).

  12. by Wraun
    Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:09 pm
    No foolin' That's what I've been saying for years now. Localization not globalization. If any country in the world can do it, it's Canada! Another interesting fact is that since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Cuba has lost it's supply of chemical fertilizer/pesticide etc and initially the agricultural industry in the country was failing. In the only response possible, the vast majority of the country made the transition to organic farming techniques. Its success is a shining example to the world that organics is practical on a national scale.

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  13. by bmac
    Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:32 am
    That isn't the only shining example. Think back to the summer and the 4 big tropical cyclones(hurricanes). As America was battered and life was lost, Grenada was flattened, Caymans was devastated - Cuba withstood the storms with the best disaster response training in the world, with a civil defense system that teaches responsibility for self and others and with a population that values many things more than their uninsured property. There are many lessons we could learn from Cuba and many of them are in the area self sufficiency (even if out of necessity).



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