More than four decades later we still profess to be baffled at the periodic eruption of murderous violence in places we perceive as safe havens. We look on aghast, as if the devil himself had appeared from out of nowhere. This time it was 32 innocents slaughtered on the campus of Virginia Tech. How could it have happened? We behave as if it was all so inexplicable.
But a close look at the patterns of murderous violence in the U.S. reveals some remarkable consistencies, wherever the individual atrocities may have occurred. In case after case, decade after decade, the killers have been shown to be young men riddled with shame and humiliation, often bitterly misogynistic and homophobic, who have decided that the way to assert their faltering sense of manhood and get the respect they have been denied is to go out and shoot somebody.
Dr. James Gilligan, who has spent many years studying violence as a prison psychiatrist in Massachusetts, and as a professor at Harvard and now at N.Y.U., believes that some debilitating combination of misogyny and homophobia is a “central component” in much, if not most, of the worst forms of violence in this country.
“What I’ve concluded from decades of working with murderers and rapists and every kind of violent criminal,” he said, “is that an underlying factor that is virtually always present to one degree or another is a feeling that one has to prove one’s manhood, and that the way to do that, to gain the respect that has been lost, is to commit a violent act.”
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A Volatile Young Man, Humiliation and a Gun
By BOB HERBERT
Published: April 19, 2007
The confluence of feelings of inadequacy, psychosexual turmoil and the easy availability of guns has resulted in a staggering volume of murders in this country.
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"People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost."
—Dalai Lama
It's one thing to know someone from personal meetings, it's another to quantify them as something based on the commentary of others.
Concerning Chu being a misogynist, that might be true if all his victims, or the vast majority, were women. That they not can easily be proven by a name check of the victims.
All that being said, Chu was a bomb waiting to go off; and his disturbing and intimidating behaviour was well known to members of the Virginia Tech administration, who in their "wisdom" did nothing of substance.
This is a person who should have been committed, and was not.
Where were the high and mighty psychiatrists then, when they would have been useful?
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The two most common things in the universe are apparently Hydrogen and stupidity.
You don't need to be a skullcrusher to know when someone's a bit off.
If they scare you, there's a reason for it.
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The two most common things in the universe are apparently Hydrogen and stupidity.
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"Under federal law, the Virginia Tech gunman should have been prohibited from buying a gun after he was declared to be a danger to himself."<br />
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So does this mean that the dealer who sold him his guns will be charged with accessory after the fact.........? <br />
<p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
-Max Planck<br />
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The two most common things in the universe are apparently Hydrogen and stupidity.
Why is it that this crutial bit of evidence is only now, after all the name calling other shit slinging that aided in the creation of this youn mans psyche' being destroyed not being focused on?
More Hegelian Dialectics at play
Creat a monster that goes on a rampage and then blame the monster
SHEESH!
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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp
Go back to what brtought about this "Bomb waiting to go off"
There have been rumbloing of Black-Op, Accomplices and perhaps other hooey associated with this case.
Where was, as is the "Chritian Charity" (not a shot at you Deac.)that failed to nurture and befriend Seung-Hui Cho?
Y'all reap what you sew!
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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp
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"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
-Max Planck
... we still profess to be baffled at the periodic eruption of murderous
violence in places we perceive as safe havens. We look on aghast, as if
the devil himself had appeared from out of nowhere. This time it was 32
innocents slaughtered on the campus of Virginia Tech. How could it have
happened? We behave as if it was all so inexplicable.
But a close look at the patterns of murderous violence in the U.S. reveals
some remarkable consistencies, wherever the individual atrocities may
have occurred. In case after case, decade after decade, the killers have
been shown to be young men riddled with shame and humiliation, often
bitterly misogynistic and homophobic, who have decided that the way to
assert their faltering sense of manhood and get the respect they have
been denied is to go out and shoot somebody.
Dr. James Gilligan, who has spent many years studying violence as a
prison psychiatrist in Massachusetts, and as a professor at Harvard and
now at N.Y.U., believes that some debilitating combination of misogyny
and homophobia is a “central component” in much, if not most, of the
worst forms of violence in this country.
“What I’ve concluded from decades of working with murderers and
rapists and every kind of violent criminal,” he said, “is that an underlying
factor that is virtually always present to one degree or another is a
feeling that one has to prove one’s manhood, and that the way to do
that, to gain the respect that has been lost, is to commit a violent act.”
... In a culture that is relentless in equating violence with masculinity, “it
is tremendously tempting,” said Dr. Gilligan, “to use violence as a means
of trying to shore up one’s sense of masculine self-esteem.”
The Virginia Tech killer, Cho Seung-Hui, was reported to have stalked
female classmates and to have leaned under tables to take inappropriate
photos of women. A former roommate told CNN that Mr. Cho once
claimed to have seen “promiscuity” when he looked into the eyes of a
woman on campus.
... The confluence of feelings of inadequacy, psychosexual turmoil and
the easy availability of guns has resulted in a staggering volume of
murders in this country .
My assessment, the one your responded to by clicking on “Reply to this” stands, and firmly I must add.
“Dr. James Gilligan, who has spent many years studying violence as a
prison psychiatrist in Massachusetts, and as a professor at Harvard and
now at N.Y.U., believes that some debilitating combination of misogyny
and homophobia is a “central component” in much, if not most, of the
worst forms of violence in this country.
It is statements like the one directly above that set my blood to boiling.
Just because the good doctor spent “many years” and is a professor does not allow him or the writer, Bob Herbert, to make “it does not follow “statements.
Misogyny and homophobia are end results and not beginning one ‘becomes’ those labels through events in their life, they do not suddenly wake up one morning and ARE misogynists and or homophobes.
What the Doctor “believes” is a “central component” fails to take into consideration leads people to become misogynists and or homophobes.
It is exactly the type of reporting done by Bob Herbert that makes him one more whore of the press and anyone who uncritically believes this kind of tripe is no better than the “Johns” that frequent streetwalkers.
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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp
But, I guess if you sewed box stiches you'd reap them as well.
No insult taken Dio.
Humans will be human, regardless of creed.
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The two most common things in the universe are apparently Hydrogen and stupidity.
My disdain for psychiatrists comes from personal experience.
Back in 1983 I was having some probs with stress at work, and made an appointment to see a shrink at the recommendation of a friend.
So, after going in for a few sessions, I was assigned to another doctor.
Just out of curiosity I asked if I could see my records, and to my surprise I was allowed to.
What I saw astonished me.
I was misquoted at every turn, and everything I said was not in the context in which it was originally said.
In fact there were several serious errors and omissions.
After I pointed these out, they were not corrected.
That's when I lost faith in that field of medicine.
Both of these quacks are now high ranking names in BC Psychiatry.
Last I heard, one is at UBC and the other is at Riverview.
Far as I'm concerned they're nothing more than practitioners of the vilest form of clinical make believe.
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The two most common things in the universe are apparently Hydrogen and stupidity.
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reap what you sow <br />
to experience the results of your own actions. If we neglect our environment, we will surely reap what we sow. <br />
Usage notes: usually used to say that something bad is likely to result from an activity<br />
Etymology: from the idea that the quality of the seeds that you sow (= put into the ground) grow into the kind of plants that you are able to reap (= cut and collect)<br />
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<a href="http://www.loveallpeople.org/whatyoudo.html">http://www.loveallpeople.org/whatyoudo.html</a> <br />
"What You Do Comes Back To You."<br />
. . . or . .. <br />
"You Reap What You Sow."<br />
By Rev. Bill McGinnis, Director - LoveAllPeople.org <br />
The words "What you do comes back to you" are an excellent paraphrase of the Biblical truth, "You reap what you sow." You plant the seeds (sow), and then later you gather the resulting harvest (reap). The harvest that you reap depends on the kind of seeds you sow. If you sow corn, you will not reap olives. <br />
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"YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW."<br />
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"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a<br />
man soweth, that shall he also reap." (Galatians 6:7 KJV)<br />
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Whatever you give out to others, God will eventually give back to you. This is the basic nature of God's Justice: "YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW."<br />
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Now this is interesting <br />
Taken in its fullest those who sit on their asses and do not participate inbringing forth rightness <br />
will get it in the end <p>---<br>"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."<br />
—Sir Josiah Stamp
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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities."
—Sir Josiah Stamp