McGill Professor Linked To U.S. Military

Posted on Tuesday, January 16 at 09:11 by jensonj
At the Symposium – a conference partially funded by the U.S. Department of Defense – Frost presented a paper titled “Effect on Scale of a Blast Wave from a Metalized Explosive.” The paper’s acknowledgements state: “This work was funded partially by the Advanced Energetics Program of DTRA.” In an email to The Daily, Frost stated that he has never received direct funding from the DTRA. He explained that it was Defence & Research Development Canada (DRDC) that funded his research for the paper, and that the nod to DTRA funding was added by his colleague Fan Zhang, a employee of the DRDC, to acknowledge “the normal collaboration of U.S.-Canada defense research groups.” Other co-authors included a McGill research engineer and Robert Ripley, an employee of Halifax-based engineering company and military contractor Martec. Higgins acknowledged that “the exact way that funding went to [Frost] isn’t clear,” but he insisted that the research must have direct military applications, as it was partially funded by the U.S. Department of Defense. “Regardless of how the money went to the work, [Frost] was the main researcher, and the US military felt it was worth funding that research,” Higgins said. “There are likely more connections like this.” The indirect links between Frost and the DTRA centre on the development of thermobaric bombs – a type of weapon the U.S. military rushed through production after September 11, 2001, for combat against Taliban and al Qaeda fighters in caves during the Afghanistan war. At the 2006 Symposium, Frost also worked with two DTRA employees on another project entitled “Casing Influence on Ignition and Reaction of Aluminum Particles in an Explosive.” Frost worked on this project along with several other researchers, including Ripley, Zhang, and two DTRA employees: Kibong Kim and William Wilson. Wilson, who could not be reached for comment, handled an $850,000 DTRA contract in 2005, that focused on thermobaric weapons development, and called for more research into “effects of charge-casing material and fragmentation on reaction kinetics” – the topic of the paper on which Frost and Wilson collaborated. Thermobaric bombs spray combustive chemicals into the entrance to a cave and then explode, lighting the mixture of air and chemicals on fire and sending a fireball and shockwave into the tunnel strong enough to disable equipment and suck the air out of people’s lungs, killing those hiding deep within. http://www.mcgilldaily.com:80/view.php?aid=5756 [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on January 17, 2007]

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  1. by Deacon
    Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:11 pm
    Here's how it works.<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1854371.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1854371.stm</a><br />
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    Much as I loath the concept, it is in my view a lesser of two evils situation.<br />
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    Would you rather the US use these or small nukes?<br />
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    My call is obvious.<p>---<br>"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"<br />
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    "The Weapon" - Rush

  2. Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:34 pm
    "Thermobaric bombs are used in the Afghanistan war to attack Taliban and al Qaeda fighters hiding in extensive cave complexes."

    Correction:

    "Thermobaric bombs are used to attack anyone who opposes US Imperialism through amrmed rebellion."

  3. by RPW
    Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:12 am
    How about neither............?

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    "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
    -Max Planck

  4. Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:00 am
    "How about neither............?""

    Here,here! There is no lesser of two evils when it comes to the tools of destruction.

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  5. by Deacon
    Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:21 am
    That's not going to happen unfortunately, otherwise that would be my preferred choice.

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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  6. by RPW
    Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:46 pm
    What would the reaction be if the the headline read: <p><b>"McGill professor linked to Russian military"?</b></p> After all, Russia is our friend now............<p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
    -Max Planck<br />
    <br />

  7. Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:25 pm
    What about 'McGill Professor makes no contribution to the sum of human knowledge during his lifetime. But still gets paid as if he did.'


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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

  8. by Deacon
    Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:07 pm
    Just a quick aside: there are two kinds of choices here, hypothetical and real.

    Seeing as a shift if current US policy seems about as hypothetical as it gets, "none of the above" would be an invalid choice.

    real world choice: Thermobaric over nukes, any day.

    No one said it had to be popular, and no one in their right mind wants it to be the way it is.

    Maybe I should nominate you guys for the Captain Obvious Award.



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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  9. by Deacon
    Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:09 pm
    Sorry, error.

    Should read as:

    "Seeing as a shift if current US policy seems about as hypothetical as it gets, "none of the above" would be an valid choice."

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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  10. Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:39 pm
    The people who dream up these devices of destruction and help build them are no better than the ones dropping the bombs, or the ones giving the orders to do so, but the people who are paying out the money to make it all happen are by far the lowest order of scum.

  11. Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:16 am
    Just a quick aside: there are two kinds of choices here, hypothetical and real.<<

    Theories became real when the effort was put to it. These weapons were only a dream at one point. If they could become real then mankind can also stop their usage. Peace is only unreal if there is no resistance or pursuance for it. Protesting the Vietnam invasion was a main cause for it to end. Americans would have second thoughts and so would all other countries if their citizenry would object to the Afghanistan invasion, loudly. Granted the USA will always have an abundance of weaponry but would hesitate to use them if "everyone" protested their use. It's is only hypothetical if no one makes it real.

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  12. Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:22 am
    After all, Russia is our friend now............<<

    They were as well in the 2nd world war.. Only after the USA resented the "Soviet Union" did Russia become their enemy. I'm not so sure they were our enemy.

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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  13. Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:26 am
    The people who dream up these devices of destruction and help build them are no better than the ones dropping the bombs, or the ones giving the orders to do so, but the people who are paying out the money to make it all happen are by far the lowest order of scum.<<

    Very well put!



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    Expect little from life and get more from it.

  14. by Deacon
    Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:34 am
    Exactly the same as your "none of the above" statement.

    Look around you. Show me anything approaching the level of political awareness that existed during the Vietnam War era.

    Look hard, 'cause it ain't there.

    More people would apparently rather watch "Girls Gone Wild" commercials than actually partake in anything requiring even the most minimal commitment.

    What you have in the US right now is a country with all the truth that money can subvert, and that's a pretty small amount that through untainted.

    You can't undo what's done any more than you can de-invent the wheel or unf*ck the woman who took your cherry.

    Once again, it's back to the US using either nukes or thermobarics, unless of course you would prefer both.

    "None of the above" doesn't exist in the current climate, and given the madness of king George, it's not likely to happen any time in the next 18-24 months.

    If you see anything even remotely resembling that kind of change in your crystal ball, please share it.

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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush



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