Bush Defends Secret Spying In The U.S.

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with all due respect:is this site about canada and canadian nationalism or is it about the united states and george bush? why are canadians soo concerned about an internal american issue? aren't there enough important and pressing canadian issues to contend with?

Just like the countries of Europe had much reason to be concerned about living next to the 3rd Reich in the late 30`s, Canada too, has every reason to be concerned about living next to the 4th Reich in the early 21st century.

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Dave Ruston

you just slapped in the face people who've suffered through REAL totalitarian regimes like the khemer rouge, nazi germany, stalinist russia,castros cuba, etc.,

grow up,if the us was the third reich this web site wouldn't be up and there'dbe burning creamatoriums acrossnorth america.

grow up.

With all due respect, yes this site is about Canada and Canadian Nationalizm; but what the US and it's president does directly affects us and our economy.

That's why Vive has an 'Eye on Uncle Sam' category.


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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

the opposite can very much also be said. so don't have a hissy fit when the american ambassador calls it like he sees it.

I don't disagree, but too many American's don't pay attention. To their misfortune.

And why shouldn't I have a 'hissy fit' when the US Ambassador interferes in our politics? That isn't his job. That was the biggest complaint I had with Celucci. I'd expect no less a reaction from you if Mr. McKenna were to tell presidential candidates through the media what their topics of discussion will be.

Don't assume we don't know what Mr. Martin is doing ethier. The Anti-US card plays well in Ontairo where the Liberals need votes, but works against him elsewhere.


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"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

The US has a long history of interfering in our Domestic Politics, whereas we don't with respect to your US politics. Our Ambassador to the USA, is just that. Yours to Canada tries to treat us like a subordinate on our own soil and we should just take it!

You need to grow up. You need to tell you politicians to shut-up and tend to their own sorry business.

TT

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‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

How can any decent American and Canadian accept a president who has committed a crime, how can Canadian politicians preach to fellow Canadians to obey the law when these same politicians allow a US president to break the law...what kind of example are we to teach the children ???

Canadian politicians have no courage to stand up to a bully neigbour, because they worry about themselves first, and the people they are supposed to represent last....the system is breaking down day by day......shame on those who condone crime, shame.....

The president is a criminal: Feingold

The President's shocking admission that he authorized the National Security Agency to spy on American citizens, without going to a court and in violation of the Constitution and laws passed by Congress, further demonstrates the urgent need for these protections. The President believes that he has the power to override the laws that Congress has passed. This is not how our democratic system of government works. The President does not get to pick and choose which laws he wants to follow. He is a president, not a king.



“On behalf of all Americans who believe in our constitutional system of government, I call on this Administration to stop this program immediately and to fully cooperate with congressional inquiries and investigations. We have had enough of an Administration that puts itself above the law and the Constitution.”


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* FISA makes it a crime, punishable by up to five years in prison, to conduct electronic surveillance except as provided for by statute. The only defense is for law government agents engaged in official duties conducting “surveillance authorized by and conducted pursuant to a search warrant or court order.” [50 U.S.C. § 1809]

* Congress has specifically stated, in statute, that the criminal wiretap statute and FISA “shall be the exclusive means by which electronic surveillance . . . and the interception of domestic wire, oral, and electronic communications may be conducted.” [18 U.S.C. § 2518(f)]

* The target of a FISA wiretap is never given notice that he or she was subject to surveillance, unless the evidence obtained through the electronic surveillance is ultimately used against the target in a criminal trial.


The president is a criminal.

Let`s see. Two fixed US elections, in 2000 and 2004. Very nice. And might I add, many minority voters were intimidated from voting. Torture in Abu Gharib. The use of depleted uranium in Iraq, now as well as in 91. Telling lies to start this war. The racial profiling of arabs or middle eastern people. Americans getting a visit from the FBI because they took out a certain book from the library. The Patriot Act, which is nothing more than a Hitler wish list. I could go on and on, but no, I just slapped the face of Americans who refuse to see that they too, unfortunately, live in a totalitarian state. I don`t plan on growing up, but I`d like to grow old, knowing that there`s a future. But the future`s so black, I gotta wear spades.

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Dave Ruston

This goes well beyond an internal issue. Anyone who does business with the United States has reason to be concerned. This an unrestricted by access to all communications by "secret" agents undermines all confidence in the United States system and its safeguards.

If the US government wants to isolate the country from the rest of the world that is its own business. However, as a capitalist country in which capital demands the right to push its weight around outside the borders of the United States it is treading on dangerous ground. With US capital demanding the ownership and control over the world's resources (enforcing capitalist values by force whenever economic intimidation will not work) it is dishonest to claim that what the Bush Administration does is not aimed at that objective.

Every time the Bush Administration tramples on the rights of its own citizens, it sends a negative signal to the rest of the world. The current US administration will trample on anyone to achieve its ends.

the reverse can also be said about canada involving itself in american affairs in the past. the american civil war had strong canadian connections including the conspiracy to assassinate lincoln (much of which was hatched in montreal.) canadian money and power-brokers were heavy backers of the confederate states. this interference almost caused the break-up of the union.

give me a break with this "woe is me" victimization trip.

and the ambassador had a right to make his speech. that's his job and he was responding to the constant negative characterzations being made about the united states by canadian politicians and media. he wasn't telling mr.martin how to act, what to believe or what to say. that's nonsense.

were legally ratified by the united states supreme court.they were not fixed or ill-legal.they were very, very close but they were legal. you don't have a firm grap of how presidential elections are decided.

minroty voters were not "intimidated" from voting. again, you are ignorant of the facts.

torture in abu gharib?hey, war is a bad thing and all kinds of bad things happen. in 1945 the french and british were arbitrarily executing germans they thought were nazis. no trial. no democratic process. they took them out into a field and executed them, then dumped their bodies into un-marked graves. this is historical fact. there were no mobile camera phones or internet.in 1945 this was hushed up by the governments involved. today, in the world of the information revolution, everything is in your face and in real time 24/7. so you see some of the bad things that happen in war that were previously hidden? deal with it. the world is an imperfect place. you and i are imperfect human beings.

grow up and act like an adult not a little kid who's just realized everything he or she was told in elementary school civics class isn't always true and our societies are not perfect.

Canada has had their own version of the patriot act, it is called business as usual. The CSIS has routinely spied on Canadian citizens for the past 30 years. Read the Canadian wiretap laws, or the the “Lawful Access Bill” and “The Modernization of Investigative Techniques Act” With these they are able to demand all cellphone, Blackberry and Internet subscriber information without a warrant…<br />
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“The government insists their proposals will bring Canada's laws on wiretaps up to date and will mean police will be able to keep up with organized criminals who are using high-tech to get around wiretaps.<br />
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"We're not giving the police any new powers, it's just keeping up with the technology and keeping up with the criminals," Ontario Liberal MP Roy Cullen told CTV News.<br />
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“Law enforcement will be able to compel ISPs to disclose subscriber information, including name, address, IP address, telephone number, and cellphone number. It would appear that such information can be compelled without judicial oversight. The so-called rigorous oversight is basically limited to recording the requests and creating the prospect for audits on the use of this power.<br />
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I Haven’t yet informed myself on this enough to have a legitimate opinion on it yet, no I do not like to be spied upon, but If you think this same thing hasn’t been going on up there for years you are kidding yourselves. <br />