American Cries Foul

Posted on Wednesday, June 22 at 10:14 by jensonj
Borum was told he was facing arrest for smuggling prohibited weapons into Canada. "I was scared to death," said the 51-year-old, who is a licensed gun manufacturer and weapons collector and inadvertently left the parts in his trunk. "I forgot those pieces were even there, that's how insignificant they are. They're harmless and could be washing machine parts for all it mattered." More: http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2005/06/22/1099308-sun.html

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  1. Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:55 pm
    He should try crossing into the USA with a pack of Zig-Zags. Detained, strip searched, car searched, found nothing not even an apology. At least guns are dangerous.

  2. Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:17 pm
    Crossing the border ethier direction is a problematic event. You basically have no recourse if the customs officers have probable cause. Zig-Zags and gun parts are probable cause. They can strip your car right to the frame, and leave it that way if they choose.

    I'll bet if you had Zig-Zags and a pack of Drum, and the officer was in a good mood, he would have let you through.


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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  3. Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:40 pm
    There's no excuse for anything like this on either side, but it shows what artificially created and implanted hysteria does to people's minds, especially, when they're holding some kind of power. Be it official, or the perceived power of monetary capital. Especially the latter, where thousands can be dispossesed and thrown to the dogs so that the power elite can steal their incomes and call it "earnings". We see it around here in the resource based areas every day.

    After all, there are only about 7 million guns in Canada and we should be deadly scared of parts for one more. Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC.

  4. Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:51 pm
    To build on Ed's insight visit<br />
    <a href="http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/061905Levy.html">http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/061905Levy.html</a> <p>---<br>Always be tolerant with those who disagree with you. After all, they have a perfect right to their ridiculous opinions-<br />
    unknown

  5. Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:09 am
    Tourists fined for gun charges<br />
    Contributed by: jensonj<br />
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    Tourists fined for gun charges<br />
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    <a href="http://www.halifaxherald.com/stories/2005/06/06/fNovaSc">www.halifaxherald.com/stories/2005/06/06/fNovaSc</a><br />
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    Monday, June 6, 2005 <br />
    The Halifax Herald Limited<br />
    YARMOUTH - A California woman arriving in Yarmouth with her husband on the Cat fast ferry was fined more than $2,000 after customs officers discovered a stash of loaded handguns in their motorhome. <br />
    It was the first weapons seizure of the tourist season at Yarmouth, where several American motorhomes are found to be carrying weapons each year. <br />
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    Kenneth S. Hunt, 76, and his wife, Barbara C. Ady, 61, of Palm Springs, arrived Thursday from Bar Harbor, Maine. <br />
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    A search of their RV revealed four undeclared handguns. Three were .38 calibre and the other was a larger .357-calibre. All were loaded and found in various places in the vehicle. <br />
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    Mr. Hunt and Ms. Ady were charged with failing to declare the guns and with making false statements. <br />
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    Charges against Mr. Hunt were withdrawn by the Crown. Ms. Ady pleaded guilty to failing to report goods under the Customs Act.<br />
    <br />
    <<Now tell me what do you see wrong between these two stories? Where is the common sence in this! What is American fears, wants and whims creating in Canada? Whats next? Totally unacceptable>><br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>Perception is two thirds of what we perceive reality to be.<br />
    <br />
    Difficult decisions are a privilege of rank.<br />

  6. Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:37 am
    Border guards are not noted for brains or humanity. Think of cops, only more stupid. Petty bureaucrats, small minded losers, they take it out on which ever poor devil falls into their clutches. It doesn't matter what country, they are all basically the same.

  7. Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:14 am
    Ummm, dude, you submitted the story for this a few days ago . . .<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php?story=20050615070521926">http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php?story=20050615070521926</a><br />
    <p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill<br />

  8. Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:03 am
    I assume by your post, that you must be one.

  9. Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:15 am
    <p>Either guns or rolling papers can be dangerous, depending upon what they’re filled with and how they’re used. Both are much less dangerous when empty.</p><p>---<br>I am willing to love all mankind, except an American…<br />
    <br />
    — Samuel Johnson, LL.D.: 15th April 1778<br />

  10. Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:10 am
    American cries fowl:
    "They're harmless and could be washing machine parts for all it mattered."

    I'm no expert on small arms but last time I fixed my washing machine I didn't see anything that looked like a gun inside. Is that a Maytag?

  11. Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:37 pm
    Sounds like he didn't report what he was carrying truthfully and so he caught a little hell for it. He's got nobody to blame but himself I imagine. I have always felt that there should be a special type of crime on the books for gratuitous stupidity by persons who should know better. Charge, convict, fine and maybe give him a few days in prison I'd say. That's coming from an American by the way.

  12. Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:15 pm
    I agree. Gun parts are not illegal to ship across the border. I can order all the parts nessecary to build a gun, but if they are not assembled, they are not a gun.

    But they still have to be declared as gun parts as far as customs are concerned. If this guy had parts that were undeclared, he commited a crime. Customs officers aren't concerned whether he knew the parts were there or not.

    IMHO, he got off lucky with having to pay for the repairs to his vehicle and a fine.

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    "If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill

  13. Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:30 pm
    "...gratuitous stupidity..."
    Hey 'American by the way' I like the way ya think! on this topic at least!

    You my have stuck on something! Hell! A whole new industry could take root just to supply the demand
    Gudonya!


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    Always be tolerant with those who disagree with you. After all, they have a perfect right to their ridiculous opinions-
    unknown

  14. Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:03 pm
    I'll tell you what. You point a rolling paper full of speed/pcp/herion and cocaine at me and I'll point a loaded gun at you....

    Do you honestly believe you can make such a comparison?



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