An Unnatural Disaster

Here's a link to NASA's Global Climate Change modeling software. Look under 'Downloads'.<br />
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<a href="http://www.edgcm.org/">http://www.edgcm.org/</a><br />
<p>---<br>"If you must kill a man, it costs you nothing to be polite about it." Winston Churchill<br />

Meanwhile another group tells us "Cutting down on fossil fuel pollution could accelerate global warming." <a href='//story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20050113/sc_nm/environment_britain_warming_dc'>Y!</a> <p>Homo <i>Sapiens</i>? Homo Doesn't Know Dick is more like it.

Another Guardian article that manages to attack the USA and President Bush, this time over gas emissions, but the article says nothing of the fact that over the next 50 years China will pump out way more of the 'greenhouse gases' that we're all supposed to be deathly afraid of.

The other link goes on about computer modelling of climate. Computer modelling of climate is the first big mistake of the whole global warming agenda because earth's atmosphere is so complex that not only do we not have computers powerful enough to evaluate all the parameters, all the parameters are not yet even known. The science of physics will have to advance much further before an accurate computer model can be devised.

Yeah, but you don`t need to be an Einstein operating a computer to know, or even just to see when you look around, the affect that greenhouse gas emissions and pollution have on the environment. And no, its not just the USA polluting. We ALL can do more. We can`t keep pumping out these poisons with wreckless abandon.

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Dave Ruston

<p>Did you actually <b>read</b> the article? <blockquote>Take away fossil fuel by-products like sulfur dioxide <b>without tackling greenhouse gas emissions,</b> and the extra heat will speed warming, irreversibly melting ice sheets and rendering rain forests unsustainable within decades, Dr Cox said. </blockquote></p> <p>The way to "take away the fossil fuel by-products" is to take away fossil fuels. By taking away fossil fuels, you are "tackling greenhouse gas emmissions".</p> <p>I'd like to know who funded Dr. Cox's study.</p> <p> As for the comment below about blaming it all on the u.s.... <b>Again, you're missing the point!</b></p><p>---<br>Canada for Canadians

I have an answer folks but I need your help to get it implemented
Dennis baker

If you consider CO2 a poison then stop exhaling because you're poisoning those around you!

Yes I read it and I did wonder who paid for it. Since getting rid of fossil fuels is simply NOT going to happen (except by extinction, ours or theirs), this reduces to an argument to roll back pollution controls (unless we develop efficient carbon traps for everything on the road, for which I'm not holding my breath as it were). <p>(Don't you dare mention hydrogen cars. Hydrogen is a transport, not a fuel, and without a revolutionary breakthrough in overall efficiency it's a regressive step.) <p>And I don't know where they think the energy's going...trapped by pollutants on the way down or trapped by greenhouse gases on the way up, the atmosphere's still heated.

Too much of ANYTHING is poison.

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Dave Ruston

The argument that hydrogen is merely a transport is without merit. By moving to hydrogen fueled cars, the pollution is moved to a small number of well-regulated power generators, rather than spread through millions of ill-tuned vehicles. Economy of scale applies to pollution controls as well; scrubbing a single smokestack is definitely cheaper than equivalent measures on millions of cars. So hydrogen may just be a transport, but its adoption still has environmental benefits.

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Canadians are asking, why do americans hate us? They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to disagree with each other.

There is an ecologically acceptable level of CO2 emmissions. Obviously the planet has its systems to deal with the inevitable creation of CO2. There is one system that you may have even seen, it's called a forest. There might even be one or two of the individual units outside your window. They're called trees.
Another one of these "systems" are the polar ice caps. They act as a "carbon sink". As they melt and we cut down the forests, the planets ability to deal with CO2 emmisions is reduced.

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Canada for Canadians

Dare I ask?

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Canada for Canadians

Anyone notice how the "carbon sinks" have migrated to the poles now that global warming is the big scare instead of the deforestation scare of a few years ago?

Anything to justify their greed.

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Dave Ruston