Judge Allows U.S. Border Inspections For Muslims Attending Toronto Conference

Posted on Friday, December 23 at 09:32 by jensonj
U.S. District Judge William Skretny, while characterizing last year's stops as "understandably frustrating," disagreed with the NYCLU's contention that they violated the group's constitutional rights to practise religion and avoid unlawful searches. "Plaintiffs were delayed for an extended period of time and subjected to unexplained inspection techniques that were inconvenient and made them feel uncomfortable," Skretny wrote. "The government readily admits that plaintiffs' experience at the border was not ideal . . . As unfortunate as this incident may have been, I find that it was not unconstitutional." The NYCLU sought the injunction preventing similar inspections based solely on attendance at this year's conference as part of a lawsuit that also sought the destruction of any personal information collected during the stops. In addition to denying the injunction, Skretny dismissed the case altogether. On the Net: Reviving the Islamic Spirit Convention: http://revivingtheislamicspirit.com http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005/12/22/pf-1365089.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on December 28, 2005]

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  1. Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:22 pm
    Now let's reverse the situation as follows:

    Say there was a muslim convention in Detroit and various muslims from Canada attended.

    Assume they would be allowed to enter the US with a B1 Visa. (Explanation: This is a visa without any paperwork for a Canadian intending to enter the US as a visitor. It is valid for a maximum period of six months, and is used extensively by snowbirds. The visitor only has to show a driver's licence at the US border; currently, a passport is not even required.

    On the return of these Canadian muslims from the convention in Detroit, what would CCRA (Explanation: Canada Customs and Revenue Agency) do at the Canadian border crossing station?

    Would these people be subject to more-than-normal scrutiny and searching? I doubt it.

    And that is the difference between Canada and the USA.

  2. Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:08 pm
    AMERICA THE NAZI GERMANY OF THE 1930'S

    wonder when the yellow stars start coming out, like it was for the jews during Hilter's time, this action is the beginning of something even more terrible to come from government, America you have sunk and are sinking, to even more lows.....and canada will follow these ways also....there are lunatics in the white house that will destroy this planet......shame....how can anyone with any decent morals allow this, where are the church leaders, where are the decent people.......the animals have taken over

  3. Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:15 pm
    AMERICA Jackboot Society: Pure Tyranny on the Streets of America<br />
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    Latest bill of rights evisceration: Ohio Patriot Act arrests for not showing ID<br />
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    Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson | December 23 2005<br />
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    We never stop talking about martial law and that's because we are constantly fed with new examples of how America has turned into a police state right in front of our very eyes.<br />
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    The latest instance comes out of Ohio and has been labeled 'the Ohio Patriot Act'.<br />
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    According to News Net 5,<br />
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    One state representative said it resembles Gestapo-style tactics of government, and there could be changes coming on the streets of Ohio's small towns and big cities.<br />
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    The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.<br />
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    WEWS reported it would also pave the way for everyone entering critical transportation sites such as, train stations, airports and bus stations to show ID<br />
    Simultaneously, the Miami Police Department announced an identical 'shock and awe' program in which cops would randomly conduct sieges on buildings with no evidence linking them to terrorist activity and randomly check identification<br />
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    The Miami and now Ohio model is akin to the police looking for a man driving a red Volkswagen in the western United States. They decide to raid a bank building in Albuquerque because the felon just might happen to be in that one building out of a list of potential hundreds of thousands.<br />
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    It makes absolutely no sense unless it is designed to scare people into groveling to the overlords in black ski masks.<br />
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    Concurrently also is the introduction of TSA VIPER squads to patrol mass transit facilities in major cities conducting searches and checking ID's.<br />
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    This is to be implemented NATIONWIDE: "The so-called "Visible Intermodal Protection and Response" teams — or VIPER teams — will patrol Amtrak's Northeast Corridor and Los Angeles rail lines; ferries in Washington state; bus stations in Houston; and mass transit systems in Atlanta, Philadelphia, Washington and Baltimore."<br />
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    The VIPER teams have nothing to do with preventing terrorism, they are there to get people to cower and accept they are under control. Air marshal spokesman David Adams has commented that there is no new intelligence indicating that terrorists are interested in targeting transportation modes.<br />
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    The move into martial law comes shortly after the incident in Miami where reportedly mentally unstable man Rigoberto Alpizar was gunned down on board American Airlines Flight 924 for "saying he had a bomb". <br />
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    We exposed the fact that witnesses reported that Alpizar never screamed that he had a bomb and passengers related that they were more frightened of Air Marshals putting guns to their head and threatening them not to look at what was taking place. The incident was a primer for the move to put federal militarized police on the streets and all over transport networks.<br />
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    This is total Stasi America and it has nothing to do with keeping you safe as they tag on blanket amnesty provisions to the latest immigration bill. The borders are wide open and border patrol have in the past been ordered to stand down and not arrest illegals.<br />
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    The one place where all this security and police presence would be its most useful, the border, is the only place that the federal government is willing to turn a blind eye to. Test runs where terrorists smuggle dummy nuclear bombs across the border without being apprehended were successfully conducted by Glenn Spencer's American Border Patrol on three separate occasions.<br />
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    The federal government isn't concerned about that but they are concerned about demanding middle aged women present ID on buses in Denver and arresting men for donating travel tokens to people without the right change in New York.<br />
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    This is textbook, mechanized, classic tyranny.<br />
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    The very same people who grope pregnant women and make 90-year-old men remove their shoes in airports are now going to be on American streets.<br />
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    Three years ago Governor Ridge announced that Americans would have to have an ID card to have a job and that we would all be graded on four different color coded levels of security clearance. Cameras scanning your license plates, cameras scanning the RFID tag on your inspection sticker, cameras biometrically scanning your face.<br />
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    This is the implementation of the jackboot society and it has already arrived in major cities.<br />
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    Senate bill 742 in Oregon which was slimly defeated by just three votes would have classified terrorism as a plethora of completely unrelated actions. Downloading music, blocking traffic, writing a hot check or any form of protest. All these would be punishable by life in prison unless you agreed to attend a "forest labor camp" for 25 years of enforced labor.<br />
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    These are actual bills being drawn up by our supposed representatives in government.<br />
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    Does this sound like a sick joke? Yes, but the bill is real and it nearly passed.<br />
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    Not even Communist China or Stalinist North Korea put people in labor camps for writing a hot check but this was actually debated in the 'land of the free'.<br />
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    In Rhode Island, governors proposed a bill that would have outlawed criticism of the government, defining it as anarchy under World War One era rhetoric.<br />
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    As the elite externalize their plans to the point where the agenda is crystal clear, more credible individuals of conscience step forward to oppose the slaughter of America.<br />
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    Maybe we should pay attention when Congressman Ron Paul warns that martial law is being implemented, or when Former Republican Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr says a military dictatorship is emerging. Or perhaps it's noteworthy when former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Dr. Paul Craig Roberts says the Government is in the hands of total psychopaths hell bent on martial law.<br />
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    Voting Hillary Clinton into office won't save us either. People need to become active in local government, especially in major metropolitan areas and demand that the Constitution, a document that President Bush refers to as a "God damned piece of paper," is recognized and upheld.<br />
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    Only through constant activism, lobbying and vigilance can we escort martial law away from American shores and live peacefully in a society where we do not cower in fear of the armed security guard barking orders at us when simply walking down the street, "citizen, show me your papers."<br />
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  4. Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:54 am
    Muslim-Americans will be the first to get numbered tattoos. Or is it computer chips these days? They are also getting invitations to have mass showers. The American government thinks they're dirty.

  5. Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:44 am
    I got searched a few years ago when I crossed into Canada, the difference is I didn't come on the internet and cry my eyes out like a 6 year old girl that you were a bunch of NAZIs. It was your right to search me, I had nothing to hide, end of story.

    Pissing your collective pants over this just further shows what a bunch of clowns you are.

  6. Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:47 am
    >>And that is the difference between Canada and the USA.<<<

    The difference between Canada and the USA is that no one is going to waste the weapons of mass destruction to blow up Canada since Canada doesn't have any effect on anything.

  7. Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:57 pm
    We should have search your house, Bank records, searched your employer's records, taped yours and there phones and computers along with your friends and relatives as well as your children’s associations, lets not forget, who you voted for then I'll believe you have nothing to hide.

    Transparency that every criminal gets till they prove they are innocent! It worked for the Nazi's so let’s apply it to new Nazi's of the 22 century.

  8. Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:56 pm
    If indeed it were true that no one would "waste weapons of mass destruction to blow up Canada, because we have no effect on anything" then I think that would be wonderful.
    It would be the success story of the millenium, and make Canada the envy of all civilized peoples.

    Believe me, if you are an ordinary working person say in Toronto or Montreal, it is much much better for you and your family if no one in the world notices you, rather than have some fanatic blow your house up because your government (that you didn't support and that acts against your wishes and interests) sent an unwanted army to try and "effect" events in a country 10,000 miles away that you never heard of. You should think about that every day.

    Canada, despite its many worts, is a wonderful place, certainly one of the best countries in the world. We should all work very hard to keep it that way. And if no one wants to blow us up, then we will have largely succeeded.

    Merry Christmas.

  9. Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:58 pm
    >>We should have search your house, Bank records, searched your employer's records, taped yours and there phones and computers along with your friends....continue rant....<<<


    I wouldn't be surprised to see Canadian officials try to do that, I am an American, therefore your "enemy"...Right?

  10. Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:04 pm
    >>> And if no one wants to blow us up, then we will have largely succeeded.<<<

    No one wants to blow you up because you don’t stand for anything other then kicking the USA in the shins in order to “assert your sovereignty”. If you are not going to stand for anything that is certainly your prerogative, but don’t whine and complain if someone else does, especially when you are riding on their coattails while you are doing it. That is just bad manners.

    Merry Christmas to you as well.

  11. Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:00 pm
    the Canadian economy would be catapulted into third world status without trade with the United States. Those workers in Toronto and Montreal better care about what's going on a few miles away from them, that's an artificial border.

  12. Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:06 pm
    Stop issuing B1 visas. No one should be allowed to enter or leave the United States without a valid passport, American or foreign.

    What makes Canadian snow birds feel they're entitled to special treatment and a B1 visa?

  13. Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:12 pm
    you, They, or anyone else want to live, visit, or do business in the United States? Just live, work, go to school, in Canada and have nothing to do with the United States.

    Demand the Canadian government cut all ties with the United States, diplomatic and trade. Close and seal the border.

    Problems solved.

  14. Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:19 pm
    Unless you are American mind your own damn business. American internal affairs have nothing to do with you anymore than Canadian internal affairs have to do with an American. The only time they overlap is trade aggreements and defense.

    I can guarantee you you will never see Canada or Canadians become a big or small issue in an American national election.

    Clean up your own house.



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