We Stand Our Ground

Posted on Thursday, September 22 at 09:56 by Patm
We Stand Our Ground By William Rivers Pitt t r u t h o u t | Perspective Sunday 10 August 2003 I must begin by saying that standing here before you is, simply, one of the greatest honors of my life. I have never served in the armed forces in any capacity. My father, however, did. He volunteered for service in Vietnam in 1969. The changes that war wrought upon him have affected, for both good and ill, every single day of my life. Vietnam did not only affect the generation that served there. It affected the children of those who served there, and the families of those who served there. That war is an American heirloom, great and terrible simultaneously, handed down from father to son and from mother to daughter, from father to daughter and from mother to son. The lessons learned there speak to us today, almost thirty years hence. Let me tell you a quick story about my father. His call to the freedom bird came while he was still out in the field. He arrived at Dulles Airport to meet my mother still dressed in his bush greens, still wearing the moustache, with the mud of Vietnam still under his fingernails and stuck inside the waffle of his boot sole. A few days earlier, he had come across a beautiful old French rifle. It was given to him by a Vietnamese friend, a former teacher with three children who had been conscripted permanently into the military. My father managed to bring this rifle home with him, and sent it on the flight in the baggage hold along with his duffel. My father and my mother stood waiting at the baggage claim for his things to come down. The people there - and this was 1970, remember - backed away from him as if he was radioactive. They knew where he had just come from. If the greens were not a giveaway, the standard issue muddy tan he and all the vets wore upon return from Vietnam was. When the rifle came down the belt, not in a package or a box, just laying there in all its reality, the crowd was appalled and horrified. My mother and father looked at each other and wondered what these people were thinking. What did they think was happening over there? What did they think it is that soldiers do? Did they even begin to understand this war, and what it meant, what it was doing to American soldiers, to the Vietnamese soldiers like my father's friend, and to the civilians caught in the crossfire? The looks on those people's faces there said enough. The answer was no. They didn't know, and apparently didn't want to know. Now, thirty three years later, we are back in that same place again, fighting a war few understand that is affecting soldiers and civilians in ways only those soldiers and civilians can truly know. Ignorance, it seems, is also an American heirloom to be passed down again and again and again. Many of you know, far better than I do, what my father felt that day in Dulles. That is why I am honored to speak to you tonight. If the American people fully knew what this war in Iraq was really about, if they fully knew what it means today to be a soldier in that part of the world, they would tear the White House apart brick by brick. If the people had but a taste of the horror and the lies, they would repudiate this administration and all it stands for. The don't know, because they have been fed a glutton's diet of misinformation and fraud. Changing that is why we are here. The first of August saw a very interesting article published in the Washington Post. The title was, "US Shifts Rhetoric On its Goals in Iraq." The story quotes an unnamed administration source - I will bet you all the money in my wallet that this "source" was a man named Richard Perle - who outlined the newest reasons for our war over there. "That goal is to see the spread of our values," said this aide, "and to understand that our values and our security are inextricably linked." Our values. That's an interesting concept coming from a member of this administration. We make much of the greatness and high moral standing of the United States of America, and there is much to be proud of. The advertising, however, has lately failed completely to match up with the product. Rest of article at: http://truthout.org/docs_03/081003A.shtml

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  1. Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:34 pm
    There are many more of us in the US who feel this way, but I often find some Canadians lumping all US citizens in one boat. Such rhetoric is counterproductive, alienates those of us in the US who share political outlooks similar to the prevailing political outlook found in Canada, and frankly demonstrates sheer ignorance and stupidity.

    I don't think all Canadians hate the US or US citizens, but Canadians cannot honestly deny that there is an ugly streak of bigotry directed toward US citizens that is not far under the surface in Canadian society. In light of that, I find Canadian claims to be a tolerant society somewhat hollow and often used as little more than conceited back patting.

    By all means criticize US government policy. Lord knows that there's plenty there that deserves to be criticized. However, don't make it an exercise in expressing old prejudices toward the average US citzen who very well may not support those policies.

  2. Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:55 pm
    Thats right. Someone who so strongly belives in Rhetoric and is litterally a Bush Follower, has lost what it is to live in a Democractic Society. They don't understand that their rabib fanaticism based on Leaders or a Party has crossed into facism. I personally don't consider such people true americans at all. Its not a "red of blue" issue. Its about being informed, and having your own opinion, not spouting what the faces on TV say, like some sort of demented Parrot.

    My greatest love and respect to all Americans who stand up to Tyranny and Facism and support real Freedom, not the freedom to be randomly searched and considered a terrorist, as brought to you by Bush's "PATRIOT ACT".

  3. Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:21 pm
    Nice to see Mr. Pitt doesn't shy away from mentioning the neocon PNAC (Project for a New American Century) group that lead an intellectually challenged, or even brain dead (to all intents and puproses), figurehead president into starting a war with Iraq as a demonstration project to the benighted heathens as well as to watching friends and foes alike. It's pretty clear Operation Shock and Awe was designed to show how Uncle Sam and Deputy George "Festus" Bush were going to kick some major ass if anyone attempted to thwart the PNAC goal of the US imposing a "benign" military and economic hegemony over the rest of the world .<br />
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    Of course the PNAC plotters get almost zero attention in the mainstream media, but what many who might have some knowledge of PNAC and the neocons and their ultimate goals don't realize is that the neocons who have hijacked the leadership of the Republican party are also adherents of the philosopy of Leo Strauss.<br />
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    The philosopher Leo Strauss advocated a rather Machivellian view of government, e.g. Gov't should be run by an elite group who are willing to act outside of strict legal or moral limits if they deem it necessary for the greater good; religion and nationalism serve as useful tools and must be manipulated by those elite in leadership positions to direct and control the masses.<br />
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    This snip following is from an article giving a brief overview of Straussian philosophy and its connection to the current neocon/PNAC thinking.<br />
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    Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception<br />
    by Jim Lobe<br />
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    What would you do if you wanted to topple Saddam Hussein, but your intelligence agencies couldn't find the evidence to justify a war?<br />
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    A follower of Leo Strauss may just hire the "right" kind of men to get the job done – people with the intellect, acuity, and, if necessary, the political commitment, polemical skills, and, above all, the imagination to find the evidence that career intelligence officers could not detect.<br />
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    The "right" man for Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, suggests Seymour Hersh in his recent New Yorker article entitled 'Selective Intelligence,' was Abram Shulsky, director of the Office of Special Plans (OSP) – an agency created specifically to find the evidence of WMDs and/or links with Al Qaeda, piece it together, and clinch the case for the invasion of Iraq.<br />
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    Like Wolfowitz, Shulsky is a student of an obscure German Jewish political philosopher named Leo Strauss who arrived in the United States in 1938. Strauss taught at several major universities, including Wolfowitz and Shulsky's alma mater, the University of Chicago, before his death in 1973.<br />
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    Strauss is a popular figure among the neoconservatives. Adherents of his ideas include prominent figures both within and outside the administration. They include 'Weekly Standard' editor William Kristol; his father and indeed the godfather of the neoconservative movement, Irving Kristol; the new Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, Stephen Cambone, a number of senior fellows at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (home to former Defense Policy Board chairman Richard Perle and Lynne Cheney), and Gary Schmitt, the director of the influential Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which is chaired by Kristol the Younger. <br />
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    <snip><br />
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    Rule One: Deception<br />
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    It's hardly surprising then why Strauss is so popular in an administration obsessed with secrecy, especially when it comes to matters of foreign policy. Not only did Strauss have few qualms about using deception in politics, he saw it as a necessity. While professing deep respect for American democracy, Strauss believed that societies should be hierarchical – divided between an elite who should lead, and the masses who should follow. But unlike fellow elitists like Plato, he was less concerned with the moral character of these leaders. According to Shadia Drury, who teaches politics at the University of Calgary, Strauss believed that "those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right – the right of the superior to rule over the inferior."<br />
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    This dichotomy requires "perpetual deception" between the rulers and the ruled, according to Drury. Robert Locke, another Strauss analyst says,"The people are told what they need to know and no more." While the elite few are capable of absorbing the absence of any moral truth, Strauss thought, the masses could not cope. If exposed to the absence of absolute truth, they would quickly fall into nihilism or anarchy, according to Drury, author of 'Leo Strauss and the American Right' (St. Martin's 1999).<br />
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    Complete article at:<br />
    <a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/">http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/</a><br />
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    More links on PNAC here:<br />
    <a href="http://hometown.aol.com/gypsywoman/morelinks.html">http://hometown.aol.com/gypsywoman/morelinks.html</a><br />
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    See also the stories about the rising Dominionist movement in the US and its ties to the neocon movement posted at:<br />
    <a href="http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/DirectoryRiseOfDominionismInAmerica.html">http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/DirectoryRiseOfDominionismInAmerica.html</a><br />
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    The Dominionist are working towards the installation of a theocratic state run strictly on the principles outlined in the Bible (i.e. a new Puritan state where adulterers and homosexuals could be put to death etc.). Remember that the Struassians believe in the manipulation of public opinion and control of the population through religion.<br />

  4. Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:57 pm
    I will for this instance address only the responses to the article and will do so in as level a voice as I can muster for the over-looked aspect, what hasn’t been addressed and desperately needs to be and is all together missing.


    Wilhelm Maximilian Wundt, the founder of experimental psychology, rightly discovered and pointed out, a thing made sense and was worth pursuing if it could be measured, quantified, and scientifically demonstrated. Seeing no way to do this with the human soul, he proposed that psychology concern itself solely with experience.
    Solely with experience.

    Herein lies the key!

    Our knowledge experiences have been engineered for a specific outcome and that outcome is manifest in many of to-days reactionary writing(s).

    Fritz Pearls expression “Garbage in/Garbage out” can express no better Wundt’s proposal of experience on the psyche. It is out of the base of engineered experience one operates from, how could it be otherwise?

    The “Canadian” experience is not dissimilar to the “American” experience in this regard.
    Those who adhere to national jingo-isms remain trapped in an engineered experience.
    The trick is to free oneself from the trap.


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    "The cost to the good people for their indifference to their public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
    I don't make jokes. I just watch the governmen

  5. Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:51 pm
    to Anonymous on Thursday, September 22 2005 @ 11:21 AM

    Thank you very much

    Dio

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    "The cost to the good people for their indifference to their public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
    I don't make jokes. I just watch the governmen

  6. Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:45 pm
    Thanks to Anon above who writes, 'Of course the PNAC plotters get almost zero attention in the mainstream media,' but their roadmap of greed, destruction and terror does not go unnoticed. Canadian Action Party has seen the writing on the wall. We are spreading the word. Revealing the inner secrets that we have discovered. We are standing on guard for Canadians.

    The first anon mentioned that too many Canadians lump all Americans in one pile, that may seem to be the case, however I sense that it is more of a knee jerk response to some of the outlandish attacks we receive on vive from those who do not wish to debate, nor discuss the threats we are all facing. Children in a dysfunctional family often squabble endlessly as a reaction to their parents discord. They don't know why they do it, nor if asked can they explain. We are not children, but those causing the discontent, imposing the hardships upon others are acting, without our authority in an abusive parental role, which requires a serious spanking!

    This article opens a small window of opportunity for humanity to awaken. It expresses a view that few Canadians hear from people within the U.S., but it does not diminish our own battle at home. Canadians are the only ones that can take back Canada. We must stand our ground, with the full knowlege of who our enemy is. We cannot move forward until we go from apathy to anger to action! The AAA of reformation of Canada, starts with a group of Canadians committed to Action on behalf of all Canadians; hence Canadian Action Party! We have conquered the apathy, the anger and we have moved on to Action, as soon as Canadians open their eyes, they'll see the opportunity to act is within their reach.

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    If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?

  7. Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:09 pm
    This article moved me to tears which suggests to me that the sentiments expressed are not exclusive to the US citizens. This has become a global problem for the ordinary hard working people on the planet. The wars that are sold to and faught by dysfunctionally designed people are not delivering the rosey future we're told they will and I think this fact is coming clear and clearer and we ALL need to stand our ground! We all need to be those fist raised extremists and we need to have ourselves a revolution.

    Tearing down the borders is not what needs to happen; tearing down our political systems and corporate/religious lobby groups is what needs to happen.



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    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  8. Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:34 am
    I completely agree with you, and as a Canadian I can tell you that I probably point fingers at my own government far more than I point fingers at yours. I also have a much different view of our two countries than most Canadians.. I often think of Canada and the United States a divided country kind of like North and South korea. Same people (generally speaking), different politics. Particularly in my part of the country (Alberta), there is virtually no difference in culture.

    In fact, I largely admire the democratic system in the United States as opposed to our own. Our Prime Minister runs the show and as citizens we are at the whims of party agendas. That's how Canadian politics works. It's not like the United States where Congressmen are at the whims of the people, it's the opposite. We are a democracy only in name becuase we can vote for MP's. However, those MP's must follow party policy as opposed to our own, so you see it isn't really a democracy in that sense becuase they are not responsive to the people. In fact, the Canadian people largely don't have any say in what goes in the Feds closed doors. We don't even vote for our own Senate!

    So in short, I think you're absolutley right about the shallowness of Canadian nationalism only defining itself as being "not American". I think more Canadians should wake up to that as well, and I can say for one that I sure don't view America that way.

  9. Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:27 am
    First I apologize to the moderator if he or she finds this posting a little off topic. But there are important parallels. I agree once more with the positions and ideas put forth by the Canadian Action Party. They appear to largely support this American writer, and so do I.

    I think the CAP's understanding of the political and economic realities in North America is accurate and pragmatic and the solutions they propose, if ever implemented, would be very positive for most poeple in both Canada and the United States. In the past two federal elections, I voted for them, and I may do so once again. But I am very lonely.

    In this Ottawa west riding, CAP finished near the bottom of the polls in the 2004 election. Barring some kind of miracle they will certainly repeat that performance again next year. Given their wealth of excellent ideas, that is a tradgedy for all of us. The question is "what can we do about it"? When I previously raised this question on Vive, I was castigated for not doing enough personally to change the situation. Also I read with interest the essay by Connie Fogal some time ago declaring that the party will only move forward through the singular efforts of individuals.

    With all due respect to Ms. Fogal (and I do respect her efforts greatly) that places the party at a fatal disadvantage in the battle of ideas with the two major greed-based parties, and their access to mass media. CAP will always be like this illustrious America writer, replete with superb ideas and values, offering desperately needed solutions, but virtually unknown and unnoticed in the public domian.

    I know I am going to get it again for saying this, but whatever you think, my intentions are good. Somehow, we must find a way to get our voices and ideas heard in the mass media. In today's world there is no substitute, unless it is a true miracle. I wish there some way that could be done. I would be delighted to help in any way I could.

  10. Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:21 am
    Whoever you are I would dearly love to hear from you, so email me and I'll give you some ideas to move forward. CAP is not as unknown as it was prior to the last election, as you may know that there was talk of one big party, just prior to the election, and when that fell through there wasn't alot of time to prepare for the election. That will not be the case this time, we are working hard to get the word out and to be a serious viable choice for voters this election. If you click on my name, you'll get my email address, and if not go to our website, <a href="http://www.canadianactionparty.ca">www.canadianactionparty.ca</a> We'd be happy to communicate with you.<p>---<br>If I stand for my country today...will my country be here to stand for me tomorrow?



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