Canada's Mosaic Serves Nation Well

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Now the &#8216;Nations well&#8217; has been served I find it only fitting to ask. &#8220;Served what, poison?&#8221;<br />
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Who writes ths poo? Furthermore what lame-brained editor allowed it?<br />
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Suddenly, Canadians are being invited to rethink a venerable* pillar of our society: multiculturalism<br />
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* 1432, from L. venerabilis, from venerari "to worship, revere"<br />
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I could go on with regard to this, but&#8230;Why bother there are more newspaper-ese gaffs to point out. <br />
For example the Memetic phrases &#8220;have been caught planning to bomb targets in Toronto&#8221; , &#8220;storm Parliament&#8221; and the oft repeated until it became know fact,&#8221; behead the Prime Minister.&#8221;<br />
and who can forget the ever popular "homegrown terrorism&#8221; that <br />
has shaken (not stirred) has shaken people to the core.?<br />
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The following one is too rich for words, however I will use words first the Star&#8217;s then mine "fascist cult believers" <br />
In a time where a number of people are beginning to see &#8216;fascist&#8217; as interchangeable with &#8216;corporatist&#8217; we now have corporatist cult believers where in may have been appropriate to use the description &#8216; fanatic cult believers&#8217;.<br />
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I am more concerned with the out and out racist and profit driven attacks on the Middle East Moslems that give rise to the concept of &#8220;home grown terrorists! <br />
( <a href="http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182">http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182</a> ) <br />
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Lest anyone forget the chief purpose of the press is to make profit via advertising. What goes in between the ads is incidental to profit. <br />
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<p>---<br>The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

Peter C. Newman:<br />
"While the 20th century was essentially a century of nation states, I think the 21st century will be a century of city states, including Canada".<br />
<a href="http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0511172/cg172_newman.shtml">http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0511172/cg172_newman.shtml</a><br />
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That may be loosely translated as a shrinking, or drawing apart, rather than a collaboration, as multi-culturalism suggests.<br />
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The world has to many people and too few resources, distributed inequitably. Think 10th Commandment.........<br />
<p>---<br>RickW

Thank you for posting the Peter Newman interview.

Newman is out to kuch though. He claims it is a "strength" that a person can "be a Canadian and still be a Czech or German, while an American is just an American". The truth is the melting pot (which even Canada used to be) is MUCH MORE UNIFYING than a cultural mosaic--which is a total bullshit term anyway.


Newman claims the 21st century will be one of city states, although city states proved to be too small to defend themselves in Greece--so why would this change? True economic globalism makes military conflict less likely to a point, but people will always fight.

Newman also predicts India will be the next world power. Many have said this--but he is seriously overestimating the ability of that unstable, messed up society. Canada is a G-8 nation with a fraction of India's poulation. India is even now mostly doing unskilled customer support for western customers which may not last forever.

India will NEVER dominate like America--even if it becomes powerful. I doubt even China will.



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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

We should expect this kind of tripe from the Toronto Star’s editorial pages but don’t let this fool you to think this newspaper is socially progressive. While it likes to pride itself as having a social conscious and advancing Trudeau’s “just society” the Star is really interested in increasing its reader base. Almost on queue the Star produced this to assuage Canadian concerns towards multiculturalism and to make sure we support unwarranted immigration targets. If you read the whole thing it is “touchy, feely.” It appeals more to the emotions and less so to the intellect and it offers no real argument. This reason the Star would do this is simple: it need more newspaper buyers.

To see what I mean you need to look at how the Star treated the Ontario Environment Commissioner when he released a report highlighting the adverse effects unfettered population growth is having to the southern Ontario region and to the lives of those who live there. Southern Ontario is home to some of the richest farm land in all of Canada yet it is under constant threat from land developers who want to pave over all of it and put up parking lots, strip malls, and tract after tract of housing. Some Vaughn city councilors (situated right on top of Toronto) receive 70% of their support from land developers who want to pave over the farm land Vaughn is home to. Immigration is a principle factor pushing the housing boom in southern Ontario and thus is a threat to this valuable land. The Commissioner also noted that population growth fuelled primarily by immigration is putting more cars on the roads adding to increased congestion and idling motors and more pollutants into the air.

The commissioner had no political agenda and his report did not single out immigration as a prime factor to environmental degradation in southern Ontario. He was doing his job in hopes that his report may influence those in power to make decisions in the best interest of the province. However the Star made it an immigration issue and attacked the Environment Commissioner and his report. The Star could have ignored the report but they published it solely to attack it. The editorial essentially stated “population growth is inevitable whether you like it or not.” The Toronto Star does not care about the environment even though it has expressed a concern for it from time to time.

It was a socially irresponsible position of the Star to take but considering the business the Star is in it makes sense. Newspaper sales have dramatically dropped and dropped yet again due to the availability of alternative source of information, primarily the internet. However Chinese and South Asians form a considerable portion of the Star’s reader base and it is increasing, this according to the Star itself. Coincidentally, Chinese and South Asians immigrants/refugees are the top two immigrant producing regions to this country and form the bulk of Canada’s immigrant intake (so much for diversity). It is in the Star’s interest as a profit maximizing enterprise to make sure immigration levels remains high and our attitudes soft even if it means taking a position that is not in the interests of the nation or province.

We cannot think that the Star really believes this editorial. It is a business move right out of the PR department, nothing more and nothing less. The Star cannot allow Canadians to feel that the nation is taking in too many immigrants and it won’t let these “home-grown” terrorists start it. After all, it would be bad for business.

Interesting post The Saint. What could you expect from a newspaper whose head, TorStar head Robert Pritchard has attended Bilderberg meetings. That said, in 1996 they exposed Bilederg in King City, Ontario and this year in Ottawa but have become more and more culturally marxist in the last few years.

It is ironic that the Toronto Star is the most economically nationalist paper in Canada, yet is culturally anti-nationalist, sort of the Pierre Trudeau program if you will.

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

Peter Newman is shooting form the hip. I guess the war in the former Yugoslavia was about city states. I guess the Palestinians want a land of city states. I guess all those flags I see here in Toronto during FIFA are flags of city states. Nationalism is strong in the rest of the world except in Canada of course because patriotism and Canadian nationalism are threats to multiculturalism, diversity, and our “mosaic.”

“Newman is out to kuch though. He claims it is a "strength" that a person can ‘be a Canadian and still be a Czech or German, while an American is just an American.’”

You are right. The man and those like him are out of touch. All he has to do is leave Toronto and go and talk to someone to find out how wrong he is. But these are the things you have to say if you want to get published and receive a bunch of awards. Subservience to state power and support of state polices, i.e. multiculturalism, has its rewards.

“Newman also predicts India will be the next world power.”

Some also predict the dissolution of India in the next several decades. India is too corrupt and unstable to be a world power.

Agreed on all counts about Newman The Saint.

Hey one question, did you ever post on the site www. Army.ca? A member named "The Saint" is listed as banned there on that unoffical military site.

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"True nations are united by blood and soil, language, literature, history, faith, tradition and memory". -

-Patrick J. Buchanan

Newman is referring by and large to the US and Canada, when he refers to city-states. Both nations are too large and unwieldy. The European model is more "reasonable" a size to deal with. But the gist of his argument is that the world is contracting, and becoming less tolerant. India might well become a superpower, but it would likely be by default. The ones we "recognize" today will tear themselves apart.

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RickW

And Patrick Buchanan is supplying YOUR mantra?

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"Newman is referring by and large to the US and Canada, when he refers to city-states. Both nations are too large and unwieldy."

True of the US perhaps at over 325 million, but Canada?

I don't think so.

Unlike the other members of the so called G8, Canada hasn't been invaded militarily for almost 2 centuries, had a civil war that I am aware of, or even born the brunt of revolution.

I think that speaks volumes about the inherent strength of the Canadian federation.

As for Canada being too large, spare me.

We as a nation have 139 years history that prove such a contention to be wrong.

We have survived, and barring any Quisling like behavior on the part of our so-called "leaders" we will continue to do so.



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"The Weapon" - Rush

<blockquote>It is ironic that the Toronto Star is the most economically nationalist paper in Canada, yet is culturally anti-nationalist, sort of the Pierre Trudeau program if you will.</blockquote> <P> Only if you define cultural nationalism in Canada as being "white" and not including immigrants. By that same definition Vive le Canada itself is economically nationalist and "culturally anti-nationalist"--if you accept that definition of nationalism, ie nationalism based on race and ethnicity. But as I've argued repeatedly, as have various Canadian political economists and authors such as but not limited to Gordon Laxer, Tony Hall and Mel Hurtig, you can have a progressive nationalism instead which argues for economic nationalism while also supporting multiculturalism and immigration as key features of the Canadian identity. <P> The Saint and Perturbed always comment like the white supremacist tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum, complimenting and agreeing with each other and posting their misguided views to any topic that deals with immigration. It may or may not be true that the Star has its own motives for promoting immigration and multiculturalism (although I highly doubt that this article's author personally makes a killing as a journalist), but it is far more easily proven that the Saint and Perturbed have their own motives for arguing AGAINST these longstanding Canadian institutions--and those motives are plain and simply racism and the promotion of a "white nation".<p>---<br>"When I told him about class warfare, he asked if we did it in JellO."--translation/paraphrase, The Candidate, CBC<br />

<blockquote>True of the US perhaps at over 325 million, but Canada? I don't think so.</blockquote> Too large geographically. Look how difficult it is becoming for Canadians to visit Canada for goodness sake! It's become a major planning event, and many Canadians just shrug, and go to DisneyLand/World. And the hinterland is coalescing around major urban centres (in the best style of the city state), as the <I><u>...Quisling like behavior on the part of our so-called "leaders"...</u></I> makes it increasingly difficult to live and work in rural Canada. <p>Both Canada and the US will de facto breakup in my lifetime. As to the form Canada will take, it may well be some sort of loose federation.....but the form will follow the fashion (which in our case will be influenced by the growth of major cities at the expense of the countryside, the inordinate cost of transportation between these centres, and even the dangerous warming trend that will make many areas of this country only marginally habitable). <p>---<br>RickW

<a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0413-28.htm">http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0413-28.htm</a><br />
James Howard Kunstler's latest book, The Long Emergency predicts the end of cheap aviation, the withering of the American southwest, the collapse of global trade and a shallow grave for suburbia, among other horrors.<br />
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Excerpts from nterview with Charles Montgomery:<br />
<a href="http://thetyee.ca/Books/2006/06/12/Kunstler/">http://thetyee.ca/Books/2006/06/12/Kunstler/</a><br />
So what form of city is best suited to handle an oil-scarce future?<br />
Something about the scale of the Gothic city, but with updated plumbing and electric lights, wherever possible.<br />
Gothic? You mean a return to the medieval city?<br />
Yes, I mean a dense, low-rise (seven story maximum) pattern that we would identify as similar to the medieval city. They may even require fortification. Now, how exactly we might manage the contraction of our hypertrophied mega-cities is a related matter. Our notions these days of what we can "manage" may be grandiose; in reality, circumstances will simply manage it for us, and in a disorderly process. In any case, we have to recognize that the super-gigantic city of the 20th century is an historical anomaly. New conditions will require different arrangements.<p>---<br>RickW

Quoted from this article: "Canada's long-held policies of
multiculturalism and open immigration have been unqualified successes
that refute those who would try to turn back the clock."

You seem to have a problem with this editorial, Diogenes. So will you be
using your barnyard vocabulary on Robin Mathews next, who also seems
to favour Canada's multiculturalism?

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My pickled onions are better than your pickled onions.
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