Foreign Workers Program Fails Cdn Businesses: Report

Posted on Monday, August 14 at 13:45 by jensonj
The association includes 800 immigration lawyers who represent a variety of businesses. Danson submitted the report to the Department of Human Resources, which is completing a review of the program's impact on employers. The review will feed into a general assessment of its Foreign Workers Program. Susan Nutt, who runs Alberta Bridges, a bridge maintenance and construction company in Pickardville, Alta., says she employs up to 19 workers year-round at a minimum of $18.65 an hour. In 2005, Canadians she hired never showed up for work, or quit after a few weeks, so this spring she employed six Filipino workers through the program. They will be replaced with six more next year and Nutt says she'll be sad to see the first batch go. "Much of the year is just getting people trained, and safety is a big part of that. Then, just when you get everyone finally up to speed, you have to start all over again," Nutt said. She adds that it's unfair for workers to come by themselves, and that allowing families to migrate would mean spouses could fill other jobs, more children would be in rural schools facing dwindling enrollment, and families wouldn't suffer separation. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2006/08/13/pf-1752680.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on August 15, 2006]

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  1. Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:17 pm
    That's funny because someone from my town in Ontario flew out there for 2 interviews (booked in advance) last week. When he got there, neither one of the companies had time to even talk to him. These were jobs that were supposedly available, and he was willing to do pretty much anything in that line of work. He does it for a living. He flew out there for nothing.

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  2. by avatar Milton
    Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:47 am
    Very strange that people here in Edmonton and elsewhere throughout Alberta are working for $9 to $14 per hour and yet the woman in the article can't find workers for $19 per hour. Why would she have to import workers, what are we not being told?
    I think we should ban the importation of foriegn workers until the unemployment rate is zero. The only way you should not be counted in the unemployment statistics is if you are retired or not looking for work because of illness or personal choice. You should not be excluded from the unemployment statistics because you do or don't qualify for E.I. benefits or social service benefits.

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  3. Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:14 am
    I don't know if it's true or not, but a guy from our union said that construction companies had hired a lot of South American workers out west.

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    These days, if you are not confused, you are not thinking clearly. Mrs. Irene Peters

  4. Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:14 am
    Maybe foreign workers are less likely to care or complain about the environmental damages and lack of safety on the job. I couldn't care less if the oil sands ever found empolyees I want it shut down!

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    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  5. by Deacon
    Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:27 am
    It's only going to get worse and worse as time goes on.

    Just watch, it's going to be the biggest jailrape of labour in Canadian history unless we stop it immediately.

    Any ideas?

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    "The Weapon" - Rush

  6. Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:15 am
    Deacan,

    Can you elaborate on what you are asking me for ideas on please? I'm not certain what you mean by a "jailrape of labour"? (Neptune is transiting my house of communications for a number of years which means I need to be very clear about the way I communicate and what is being communicated to me)

    Thanks

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    "And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche

  7. by Deacon
    Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:36 pm
    Gladly :-)

    Just my opinion, but when you begin bringing in workers from another country you begin eroding the strength of the labour movement in your country.

    Citizen workers have certain rights that I'm sure will be convieniently left out of any migrant worker program.

    You start with the menial tasks that no one, if you believe the people fronting the idea of importing migrant workers, wants to do.

    Once you set that precident, you begin working on the real targets: unions, and workers rights.

    You then use these migrants as a stick to threaten your workers into accepting terms that under any other circumstances would be rejected outright.

    You let enough migrants in, you flood the market and so-called businessmen who are always eager to lower expenses begin prefering the imported workers over the locals.

    Do you begin to see what I mean by "jailrape of labour" now?

    I hope this helps.

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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  8. Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:45 am
    Thanks Deacon,

    I missed your response until now. What I think is a really big problem with regards to the "menial" work getting done at all in Canada is that people are not training their children to DO IT and especially do it happily or as a career choice. How many young people are even taught how to weed a garden or pick fruit in their own backyards let alone as a job opportunity? If we keep telling our kids that they have to have a university education to survive we will have to invite foreign workers into Canada, just as they have to in California, to grow what it takes TO survive. The sad thing about that is then a message is sent to our children that only immigrants do the menial jobs which creates a caste system and fosters racism. Any of the young parents I know today are all city dwellers and have professional jobs and think nothing about growing food or showing their children how that is done. The next generation is the most privledged the west has ever raised so what will it take to change their thinking?

    Until we all want to pay fair prices for the goods we buy and willingly give workers union pay and benefits this is going to be a huge problem for businesses that especially require only seasonal helpers.

    Until we train children to get in touch with the earth and how it produces and the benefits we receive from working it there will be a disconnect not only in the work force but in our nationhood. I think if you don't understand the connection between the land (country) that is sustaining your existence why would you care if it exists?

    The real answer is to fight for all workers around the world to be paid fair wages and be given decent benefits along with human rights. That in large part would end people moving to foreign lands looking for an income to support their families back home.

    But as for the tar sands jobs I would like those to die a quick death.

    I hope I'm still on track here as I feel disconnected from this thread after only this many days? :(

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