Green Party An Alluring Enigma

Posted on Saturday, December 10 at 08:50 by Anonymous
A two-hour verbal slugfest is probably the wrong forum to explain the Green party's platform anyway. The trouble is there aren't many others. Most of the media pay scant attention to the Greens. Most academic commentators consider them marginal. And most community groups don't know much about them. Here, then, is a brief look at the new player on Canada's political scene. The Green party doesn't fit comfortably anywhere on the right-left spectrum. Its environmental policies are progressive. It advocates a sharp increase in gasoline taxes, a $10-a-tonne levy on coal and a heavy investment in wind power. But its economic policies are conservative. It would shrink the federal public service and cut taxes on personal income, corporate profits and investment. Most of its other policies are too vague to judge. It aims to reduce poverty, but it hasn't said how. It proposes to restore democratic accountability but, apart from advocating proportional representation, has offered few specifics. It says it will address Canada's fiscal imbalance, but has provided no details. It claims to be the only party focusing on disease prevention but hasn't explained how it would pay for this expansion of health care. http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1134082211748&call_pageid=968256290204

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  1. by hoopoe
    Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:19 pm
    This is the problem with the Green Party. They hook their name to the environmental movement and most people generally assume this means that the rest of their policies are congruent with that movement. In reality, their economic policies are more conservative (libertarian actually) than the Conservative Party. Both they and the Conservative/Liberal Party (both the same for the most part) never get around to explaining how they are going to actually run government after cutting, cutting, and cutting taxes. I'm all for lower personal taxes but this has to be offset by increasing corporate taxes so they are carrying their fare share of the tax burden.

  2. Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:58 pm
    Are you identifying a problem with the Greens or a problem with Star reporting? The article claims it will introduce the Green platform and then does no such thing. With this kind of journalism it is no wonder the party seems an enigma to some.

  3. Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:50 pm
    Having just checked out my options localy and finding that the NDP candidate is a union leader (not a choice for me, simply too "for me, anti you") Green seems my only choice (the other two being no choice at all, no CAP here) but I do wish they would spell out their platform a little better, I intend to go digging for more info but am more and more into not bothering mostly because those I may vote for will have NO impact upon what actualy happens in the next parliment. Dont like it, defeatest attatude, cynical, lost in the manure......yes. What does one do? I have bitched to some of the National media about lack of "alternative" party news and platforms but do not expect a real change in reporting practices.

  4. Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:10 pm
    Increasing taxes on gas means nothing. Wealthy people can afford to burn all the gas they want. Poor people have to burn gas to get to work, and surely cannot afford a price hike in gas. It`s fine to want to clean up the environment, but as long as policies are either directly or indirectly aimed at punishing what`s left of the middle class and the poor, then progress will not be made. Let`s get after the big polluters first- the corporations. Let`s get car companies to build fuel cell vehicles. Or perhaps a crown corporation to do just that.

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    Dave Ruston

  5. Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:25 am
    I like the Toronto Star but this is poor reporting. The Green Party like all the other parties (last I checked) have yet to release their overall party platforms for this election.

    If I was a betting man (which I am not - spent too long working in Casinos to know how that works) I would suspect the majors are waiting till the new year.

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    If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  6. Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:05 am
    Increasing taxes on gas means that people will have to make choices. If you can't afford the gas, take the bus or bicycle, or move closer to work. There is only so much oil in the Earth, and we waste it unnecessarily.

    Besides, they also propose reducing prices on things like sports equipment (eg. bicycles), so it's not like everything will be more expensive.

  7. Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:10 am
    I think environmentalism is a natural fit with balanced budgets. Both suggest a long-term viewpoint.

    I believe the tax cuts are supposed to be offset with gas taxes, taxes on environmentally unfirendly products and other consumption taxes. Also, they propose encouraging healthier more active lifestyles which may reduce medicare costs.

  8. by hoopoe
    Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:44 am
    A problem with the Green Party of course. Seems to me the article did as good a job describing their platform as it could. I have yet to see anyone in the Green Party even attempt explain their economic policies, likely because they know that except for the regressive gas taxes and other environmental taxes their economic policies are taken out of the Conservative Party policy manual. They sure seem to be vague in what they do disclose and I sure would like to see an explanation of how they will pay for it while reducing taxes all around.

    Even the environmental taxes they propose will not have the effect they claim; all Canadian cities are built around cars so people will have to drive even if it means a greater portion of the family budget goes for this. This will not result in less polution, only hardship for Canadian families. In reality, these taxes will almost certainly go into general revenues and not be used for what they claim.

    As well, let's say that againts all odds their plan was successful in reducing pollution. The only way this could happen is to reduce the number of drivers and/or the amount driven. This would mean that they would be the victim of their own success, as with less people driving less often this source of tax revenue would dwindle. Then they would be sitting there with huge amounts of added debt (federal, provincial, or municipal is irrelevant) to fund massive transportation infrastructure so there goes their promised personal tax cuts.

  9. Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:02 am
    Well there's the problem of PEAK OIL. And The Green Party Knows that soon supply won't meet the demand of oil and we will have to raise prices in the form of inflation.

    Either we choose to raise the prices now while we have control or they are raised for us when Saudi Arabia starts producing less cheap oil. I for one want to keep control.



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