Thousands Protest Auto Industry Job Losses

Posted on Monday, May 28 at 09:02 by RPW
So what makes this any more news worthy than the thouanads of people in the Martimes and Newfoundland, who lost their jobs when the cod fishery collapsed? I would suggest moving to Fort McMurray, if employement at home dries up.

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  1. Mon May 28, 2007 4:05 pm
    "I would suggest moving to Fort McMurray, if employement at home dries up."

    I would suggest not. Unless you like living in a tent. Lots of work there, yes; but zero places to live. With the recent fire of an affordable living complex, there are 100 fewer places to live too.

    Don't even think of moving to Alberta at all unless you have a place to live first.

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  2. Mon May 28, 2007 4:25 pm
    The interesting thing about this article is that it never mentions the phoney NAFTA, other "free trade" lies, and "globalization" schemes, the main causes of this long planned and increasing devastation.


    The North American Competitiveness Council is now demanding the "free movement of business persons" and David Dodge of the Bank of Canada, the "free movement of labour". Of course, Mr.Dodge will jump into a multimillion Dollar per year multinational job, or string of directorships within a few monts, so it is no wonder he is feathering his nest.
    with the lives of Canadian workers.

    All this has been predicted 20 years ago, when we were fighting against the phoney FTA. I was talking to David Orchard on the phone at the time, and he told me that he was begging the then head of the CLC, Shirley Carr, to put 100,000 unionists on Parliament Hill to stop the FTA, but she refused and now her successors are still playing the silly game.

    Did Buzz Hargrove mention NAFTA and the rest of this fraud ?
    I doubt it.

    Under NAFTA and WTO rules the government can do virtually nothing, except enlarging the "defence" armament production, which is exempt, so the whole thing is nothing but sop to pacify people, while they are being sold off.

    As far Ft.McMurray is concerned, what I can hear is that the whole oil patch area is nothing but a hellhole of government licenced, incredible pollution and devastatation that may ultimately poison and kill millions.

    Ed Deak, Big Lake, BC

  3. Mon May 28, 2007 5:19 pm
    Buzz Hargrove seems to avoid the fact that more Japanese factories are being built in Canada while the "big three" is closing theirs. Hargrove is demanding more union members and should Toyota accept his union, he would place his rules on them. (He can't in Japan) For some reason, the union icon thinks Canadians should be forced to buy only those vehicles his union makes. Harper may not be any smarter then Bush but it's doubtfull he would bend backwards in support.

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  4. Mon May 28, 2007 5:53 pm
    Canada's membership in NAFTA may be cancelled with 6 month's notice. But the electorate has to make its wishes known to the politicos in no uncertain ways.

    My observation is that Canadians at large love high taxes and NAFTA because they keep voting for the same MP's.

    Some time ago I wrote an essay entitled "Some Thoughts on Improving Our Democratic System". The reader's response in this and other fora (sp?) was gratifying. It could stand re-reading prior to any election because it points out a number of activities that any individual may implement easily.

    H.F. Wolff

    Insanity: Continuing unchanged action while expecting improvements.

  5. Mon May 28, 2007 7:31 pm
    Ah ha! excellent point! I hear many union types claiming we should 'buy domestic' but the thing is, the big 3 are US companies, not Canadian. But nonetheless, Toyota and Honda are increasing production in Canada as you say, while the big 3 close down. That`s all it is- Buzz is angry at the fact that he can`t collect dues from Toyota and Honda workers. CAW reps actually stand outside the Toyota and Honda factories trying to get their corrupt union started in their respective workplaces, but workers at Honda and Toyota are treated so well that they don`t need a union. So sad, the CAW is nothing like it was under the leadership of Bob White! And as far as moving to Alberta, well, apparently, not only is the cost of living higher out there than say, here in Ontario, but real estate and property taxes are also insane. So this so-called oil boom is yet another farce. Albertans are being taken for a ride. Good thing us eastern bastards never had to freeze in the dark after all, eh? But don`t worry, soon enough, all of Canada will if we keep sending oil to the US the way we currently are.

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  6. by RPW
    Tue May 29, 2007 1:10 am
    <blockquote> Did Buzz Hargrove mention NAFTA and the rest of this fraud ? </blockquote> Did Buzz Hargrove ever put his support (as a concerned and influential citizen of Canada, and not necessarily the head of the CAW) behind the debacle that was the cod fishery, forcing thousands of Maritimers to unproot themselves and move to Fort Mac? I think not. So, as per my original thesis, if no one gave so much as a nod at the plight of Maritimers when the cod fishery crashed, why should anyone give so much as a nod at the plight of auto workers? As one "armchair analyst" at that now distant time noted (of Newfoundland): "There's too many people on The Rock. Some of them have to move." Well, perhaps there are too many people in southern Ontario, and some of them are just going to have to move. Personally, I don't much care if they move to Fort Mac at all. Just go where the work is, and make due. If it means living in a tent, then live in a tent.<p>Isn't it ironic that, in this "dawn" of think green, think conservation, Mr. Hargrove wants some sort of guarantee in continuing to build one of the major sources of greenhouse gases and pollution in general? And that what he wants for southern Ontario ensures a continuing market for another major source of greenhbouse gases - namely the Tar Sands? Or is he willing to go on the record and say that the factories in which his membership works are willing to build hydrogen-powered autos only?</p>Or, as Ed Deak mentioned, are we (that is, our leadership) actually going to trace the source of all this, and be honest with we the people? Somehow, I think not....... <p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
    -Max Planck<br />
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  7. by Deacon
    Thu May 31, 2007 2:57 pm
    What more would you expect? This is the same Buzz Hargrove who assisted in the breaking of the Telecommunications Workers Union by Telus.

    He's every bit the turncoat that Jack Munroe was for the IWA.

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  8. by RPW
    Thu May 31, 2007 3:58 pm
    "He's every bit the turncoat that Jack Munroe was for the IWA."<br />
    I think that pretty well nails it!<br />
    <br />
    Here's Arnie chiming in:<br />
    <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/05/30/schwarzenegger-green.html">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/05/30/schwarzenegger-green.html</a><br />
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    California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger brought his environmental message of "active optimism" to Ontario Wednesday, along with a thinly veiled warning to the province's automakers to prepare for the "green, clean" revolution.<br />
    <p>---<br>"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change." <br />
    -Max Planck<br />
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