The Strange Language Of Capitalism

Posted on Wednesday, June 21 at 08:59 by 4Canada
By freedom Bush and company mean corporate freedom. They are speaking about the freedom of corporations to operate with impunity in all parts of the world without regulation of any kind. Simply stated, they are talking about corporations ruling the world backed by the strong arm of the U.S. military. They are covertly advocating the oppression of the world’s people’s, the plunder of the earth, the destruction of culture and language, the exportation of jobs to the cheapest, least regulated and most exploitable pools of labor. That is what they mean by freedom—the freedom for Plutocrats to rule the world; Poppy Bush’s New World Order; the global domination of the working class by the ruling Plutocrats. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13707.htm [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on June 22, 2006]

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  1. Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:18 pm
    I don't think Capitalism was intended to enslave man, and enable wars like this. I think it's more correct to label this as Facism. Nowhere does it say that Capitalism MUST let companies get away with no moral responsibilities. That is the decision of a country's lawmakers and electorate, not an inherent feature of the system.

    Capitalism is great for solving some problems, but it turns into an ugly monster if not properly monitored and corrected. I think this is the true failure of the United States people, as mentioned in the article. Someone forgot to rise up against their government when it turned bad. Also, the USA's founding fathers are to blame, for designing a system that favours a two party system. That really isn't democracy.

    It's a good article, but the author is a little biased against Capitalism. It's a tool, that's good in some circumstances. The true problem is a country that has gone to rot through neglect and apathy.

    Kind regards,
    Stoutlimb

  2. by Deacon
    Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:35 pm
    "Capitalism" as practiced by corporations and politicians such as Bush, Harper, and their ilk is little more than Colonialism by economic rather than by military means.

    It's a very devious game.

    You use the threat of moving your means of producing/providing servies to a lower cost area (nation) of the globe to secure concessions from politician/labor leaders in a more costly area (nation)*.

    *read as: nation with reasonably effective labor and environmental protections.

    If they don't play, you move out and leave people without the means of supporting themselves or their families.

    And even if they do concede, you can always move anyways.

    The politians in the area you are moving to will bend over backeards to accomodate the needs of your "corporation". If you need proof, just look at the migration of jobs from Can/US to Mexico. Then examine Mexico's current labor and evironmental laws.

    Then expand that to every third world nation that allows sweatshop labour, or has extremely lax evironmental protection laws.

    It's a sweet setup, isn't it?

    Once you have the local politicians in your pocket and on your payroll, you effectively govern that area with no shots fired.

    Presto, welcome to your shiny new colony.

    ---
    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  3. by avatar Jacob
    Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:52 pm
    I agree with Stoutlimb that the two-party system in the US is a major problem. I was once told (during a tour of the Capitol in Olympia, WA) that the constitution of the State of Washington only allows two political parties.

    Now that's ludicrous. But yet, Americans know no better, do not know how much "different" and "better" things could be, and do not know how the "system" could ever be changed.

    And this dumb electoral system has allowed capitalism to degenerate. Slowly but surely. Can the clock be turned back?

  4. Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:43 pm
    When these questionable/unethical means are put into play by politicians and a legal system which will directly benefit by legislations enacted the stge is set for what is now referred to as conflict of interest.
    Your assertion of, with all due respect, Stoutlimb, “I don't think Capitalism was intended to enslave man, and enable wars like this.” must have some basis to exist.

    Perhaps it is from my rather inflexible understanding of ethics and morality pertaining to what capitalism is or is not that sets my tone in responding to your assertions, given the proceeding position I take a strong counter view of your assertion.

    Capitalism in its true Ferengi like nature is truly about the rules of acquisition
    and fits hand in glove with fiat money and fractional banking.



    ---
    The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein

  5. Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:49 pm
    I agree with you. In my opinion, Capitalism is the equivalent of atomic energy for social science. Used properly, monitored, and controlled, there is no equal in efficency and power. If misused, neglected or abused, a calamity of terrible proportions can ensue.

    Our predecessors who founded great modern nations like the USA, France, Canada, the UK, etc. seemed to have a very healthy respect for freedom, and what it takes to maintain it. I think somehow the general public has lost that respect in a way that only hard experience can bring back. It takes more than "liberating" foreign countries to ensure freedom. Many countries have forgotten how to keep themselves liberated, and have embarked on a road who's destination they cannot yet concieve.

    That generality, far more than any specific reason or event, has me convinced that World War III is right around the corner.

    It scares the crap out of me.

  6. Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:51 pm
    Can you imagine any situation other than full scale war that would get them to repeal that law? I can't.

  7. Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:35 am
    What this whole thing boils down to, and I have to agree with Stoutlimb to a great degree, is that all ideologies and religions can be twisted, turned and manipulated around to become legalized crime waves and mass murders.

    History is nothing but a long line of evidence proving this point. I discovered this many years ago and this was the main reason I've spent years on finding alternative definitions, based on unbreakable physical laws.

    Economics are the study of energy control, therefore its workings can be defined and systems worked out based on the laws of energy that nobody and no sector can twist around.

    The problem is that under such system no sector can claim superiority, which means democracy, a governing system strongly opposed by rulers and would be rulers.

    Ed Deak.

  8. by RPW
    Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:38 am
    <blockquote>properly monitored and corrected</blockquote>But by whom? <p>And who then would be watching the watchers?</p> Any system that is not inherently self-correcting is doomed to oppressive bureacracy, and ultimately to failure. <p>Here's a thought -- why don't we ditch the "capitalism" moniker, and call it barter?</p>Ya know...my widget for your doomahickie............amd dispense with a central currency while we're at it. That is simply another form of control.<p>---<br>RickW<br />
    <br />
    "The purpose of economic competition is to eliminate competition"...." - John Kenneth Galbraith

  9. Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:06 am
    You seem like such an expert. Explain to me which social system of distributing wealth IS inherently self-correcting.

  10. by RPW
    Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:43 pm
    Barter --
    K.I.S.S.

    The problem most people have is, if it's not complicated, requiring layers of specialists and experts, it obviously cannot work -- when it is this very complexity that ultimately spells the doom of any system.

    ---
    RickW

    "The purpose of economic competition is to eliminate competition"...." - John Kenneth Galbraith

  11. by Patm
    Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:59 pm
    The entire notion of Corporations is anti-capitalist. Real capitalism does not shield business owners from wrong-doings. If you put out a product that kills people, then under a capitalist system, you are personally liable. Corporate status takes away the only true capitalist limit on corporate malfeasance - personal responsibility.<br />
    <br />
    These corporateers keep yammering on about a free market yet corporate status makes the markets NOT free.<br />
    <br />
    Take a read through <a href="http://www.misus.org">www.misus.org</a> if you want to know what capitalism really is (not saying I agree with Mises on how the world should be run but, free marketeers should know what a FREE market really is).<br />

  12. Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:43 pm
    If anything, the present system of corporatism certainly isn't so called "free enterprise", the biggest lie going.

    It is a freebooter economy for the benefit of a pirate class, robbing and killing people, colonizing and destroying ecological property, protected by a legalized, criminal theory.

    Ed Deak.

  13. Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:51 pm
    So you honestly would like to replace the United States economy with a barter economy? You're going to have to explain yourself, because that sounds absolutely absurd.

  14. by Deacon
    Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:03 pm
    Thank you Ed, for mentioning "colonizing".

    I'm happy someone else seems to see modern corporate "capitalism" for what it truly is: corporate colonialism.

    ---
    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush



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