A Modest Proposal

Posted on Thursday, November 04 at 08:07 by Jesse
Here's one rather tongue-in-cheek proposal for how to redefine the border: http://yglesias.typepad.com/matthew/2004/11/a_modest_propos.html The comments are a pretty good read, including one pointing out that Alberta really is only corporo-fascist by Canadian standards. Is our government willing to extend an offer to join confederation to any states that want it?

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  1. by N Say
    Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:27 pm
    been there, done that:
    http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php? ... 3154844481

    well, pretty much all the states east of the Missippi were part of British North America at one point, weren't they? & at the end of the War of 1812 we could have had a bunch of the states south of the Great Lakes, and then the British gave them away, not knowing any North-American geography?

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  2. Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:27 pm
    <p> To help you visualize, <a href="http://againstallflags.blogspot.com/2004/11/theyre-all-canadian-now.html">click here</a> </p> <p>---<br>The poster formally known as Action-Jackson <br />
    homepage: http://againstallflags.blogspot.com

  3. Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:06 pm
    I would support that under the condition that the conservative Canadian provinces be given the option of becoming states and joining the USA. We would be happy to welcome Alberta into the union :)

  4. Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:33 pm
    Jesusland...gotta love it.

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  5. Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:42 pm
    While perhaps voting conservative, the majority of Albertans, while in many cases good Christians in the generally accepted sense, probably wouldn't be good fits for 'Jesusland' or the particular type of 'conservatism' that has gained popularity in some parts of the U.S.

    However, Vive participants could probably raise enough cash to pay Ralph's, Stephen's and their cotary of oddball U.S. Calgary U. expatriates relocation expenses to Jesusland, where they'd doubtless be able to make a contribution of the same value as has been true here.

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    "When we are in the middle of the paradigm, it is hard to imagine any other paradigm" (Adam Smith).

  6. by avatar Jesse
    Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:05 pm
    You'd have to leave the major metropolitan centers behind, as well as most of the rockies(as I understand it, anyway); "Redmonton" probably wouldn't want to be part of the US. (funny how the red/blue has reversed meaning in canada). As I mentioned, Alberta is really only uberconservative by canadian standards, and wouldn't fit in all that well with Dubya's crowd.

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    Jesse

  7. Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:05 am
    I think if the U.S. and Canada ever got together, it would be the northern states joining Canada for universal health care. We can take U.S. territory without even sending an army. :) Although this would make Canada even more decentralized, we'd simply have to ensure the pronvinces were counted equally from that point on, so the larger U.S. population wouldn't swamp our political culture.

  8. Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:05 am
    Yes !
    We are already more Canada than US, and we were once an independent republic. We're ready / Nous sommes pręts!!

    -Russell Aminzade

  9. Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:43 am
    I like Cajun cuisine. Anyway we could pry New Orleans away from Jesusland? Could we trade it for Washington?

    Also, as Ohio should apparently not be part of Jesusland, it seems that all we need to do is get Indiana on board to control the great lakes.

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    "When we are in the middle of the paradigm, it is hard to imagine any other paradigm" (Adam Smith).

  10. Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:47 am
    Let me be the first to welcome to Canada...home of the polite and placid.

    Ummm, we don't have anything similar to a second amendment right allowing every citizen to numerous automatic weapons. Will that be a problem?

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    "When we are in the middle of the paradigm, it is hard to imagine any other paradigm" (Adam Smith).

  11. Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:20 am
    Well, you can get guns, just not handguns--legally that is. :)

  12. Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:46 am
    Anyone remember this game called "Risk"? It was great for kids wanting to redefine state borders (and move armies). A reality game would have great potential for astute politicians. Media would love it to and the people making guns. Anyone checked 1984 lately? Let's see who was fighting who this week? Ooopsie, they do not exist anymore.

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  13. Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:43 am
    Yes N Say,

    Susan submitted that for me back before she finally taught me how to do that for myself. (Thanks Susan).

    This guy goes a bit farther however. Naming the countries. I truly like Jesusland. I think all countries need to be named in a way that lets the prospective traveller know whether this is the destination for him/her or not. Saves time. USC needs to be renamed. That says nothing really about Canada and infact gives a false impression. Alberta would be fighting to stay as long as my family living there had any say and Quebec would be fighting to leave. (Not united). Maybe Heathenland, or Weedland or Supersizedland?

    Frankly I don't see this ever happening. I kinda like the marry an American rescue instead.

  14. Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:02 am
    If New England ever succeeds from the Union and joins Canada, Ill be on the first bus North.



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