Aftermath Blues

Posted on Wednesday, June 30 at 08:20 by harrisp
Alberta has traditionally been a stronghold for the Conservative party and its various predecessors and this election proved once again how strong that hold is. Two previous Prime Ministers are generally thought to have come from the West — Joe Clark and the Ontario-born John Diefenbaker. In fact, in addition to those two, the following Prime Ministers have represented ridings west of Ontario: John Turner, Kim Campbell, R.B. Bennett, W.L.M. King, Arthur Meighen, John A. MacDonald. It is disingenuous to complain that the West is ‘never’ represented in Ottawa. But Albertans are hopping mad right now because another Ontario-born conservative, Stephen Harper, failed to sell his message to Canadians in any great numbers — except in Alberta. The accusation is that Alberta is left alone, unrepresented or underrepresented, even though they have sent most of their Conservative candidates to Ottawa. In the Globe and Mail on June 30 there is a quote in Roy MacGregor’s column from Elizabeth Craine, a disgruntled Albertan who has been a conservative supporter back to the Diefenbaker days. “There is no Canada. There's Quebec. There's the Maritimes. There's Ontario. And there's the West. They're all different. Let's wake up to reality -- it's time for us to form our own country.” With the greatest of respect to Ms Craine, that is churlish and childish in the extreme. Throughout the ‘West’, there are a variety of views and goals and the various parts of the West are also different. Surely no one thinks that Vancouver and Prince George and Wetaskiwin and Calgary and Moosomin and Dauphin have a whole lot in common. And the areas between them elected people from three parties, plus an independent; that’s what a democracy is all about. In Alberta, 26 of 28 seats went to the Conservatives which suggests Albertans are firmly Tory blue and on the side of conservatism. But, in fact, less than 69% of Albertans voted for the Conservatives. Despite that, Alberta gets to plunk 93% of its seats underneath Conservative bums. About 40% of Albertans didn’t bother to vote at all. One could readily argue that Alberta is sending more Conservatives to Ottawa than the vote warrants and that the rest of Canada is being subjected to Alberta’s whims. Instead, it is much easier to simply say the results of this election are unsatisfactory so Alberta should take its ball and glove and go play somewhere else. Albertans are complaining that Canadians, Ontarians in particular, have failed to embrace change. In MacGregor’s column there is another quote from an email message he says he received from a reader in North Vancouver which condemns "the tyranny of the majority". The tyranny of the majority? Presumably, this reader thinks that democracy is a bad thing since it has the disastrous result of sometimes actually giving the greatest number of people what they want. He goes on to say: "We are mad, angry and ticked off to no end at the lack of vision and need for change that Ontario is once again subjecting us to." Well, Canadians outside the West could readily argue that they are being subjected to a strong Conservative opposition because of the pigheadedness of the West. A need for change was evident to all Canadians but change simply for the sake of change is foolish. Albertans may be able to see virtue in a Stephen Harper-style Canada but most other Canadians are unconvinced. In fact, a sizable number see Harper as a villain eager to turn us into ‘USA North’ and are unwilling to oust the devil they know for what they think might be even worse. It is useless to argue whether Albertans are more clearheaded or more addle-pated than the rest of Canadians. While I hate to equate Canada, in any way, to the United States, look at the results of their last national election. There was a sea of red and a sea of blue on the election results maps. And primarily, the conservative votes (for Bush) went to the states in the middle. Clearly, the United States has polarized election preferences just as we do in Canada but you never hear talk that Oklahoma and Kansas should just pick up and wander off over the next ridge where they can start their own country. The reality is that our system does not send to Ottawa a reasonable representation of the nation’s voter preferences. The New Democratic Party has been talking about proportional representation as a fairer distribution of votes. For instance, in a proportional system, the results from the June 28 election would have given us this: Liberal – 113 seats, Conservative – 92, NDP – 48, Bloc 38, Other (Greens, Independents, etc.) – 17 seats. That certainly does seem to better represent Canadians but the mechanics of this process is not simple and it is hard to see how the various regions would get proper representation. Such a system would also seriously interfere with the process of voting for a candidate rather than a party, which does not appear to be a positive step forward. Still it is obvious that something needs to be done with our electoral system to ensure that fairness and practicality give us good government. So here is my first proposal: forget the notion of any part of Canada separating from the rest the country and simply eliminate the provinces. Rather than have ten provincial (and three territory) governments, break the country into smaller bite-sized pieces based on geography and common interest. Even in the hated Ontario, it must be obvious to all that the needs and interests of those in Toronto are very different from those in, say, Ailsa Craig or Sodom, and different again from those north of the Transcanada Highway. It must be obvious that the farmers of southern Saskatchewan have different needs and interests than the trappers and loggers north of Prince Albert. Again, I have to use the United States as an example. Despite being a somewhat lesser country than Canada (in the sense of land mass), it is broken into 50 pieces where we, despite our large mass, make do with 13. Creating a larger number of smaller entities based on geography and common economic interests, each of which sends delegates based on population to a strong central government would be a more effective choice than what we presently have. But voices would be more easily lost as they often are in the U.S. House of Representatives. My second proposal is the one I personally favour: eliminate the provinces and replace them with nothing. It is a layer of government which serves no useful purpose, in my view. A strong central government would set up Ministries that were staffed by people from the various geographical areas who catered to and advocated for those regions. People live in our geography, not the arbitrary lines drawn on the map of Canada. But to get back to my purpose, I have this to say to Albertans: this was a fair fight, played by rules you knew, and you’re simply unhappy with the result. Rather than complain that others across the country aren’t smart enough to embrace change, consider for a moment that change itself isn’t what was rejected; just the change that was proposed. This election was Harper’s for the taking but the rest of the country fails to accept that the new Conservative party is a viable alternative. There are too many unknowns because the party has yet to establish much in the way of policy and because it is clear that there is a large ultra-right radical fringe within the party. The change offered was simply unpalatable to too many people. To those Albertans who want to separate, I say go if you must. Just make sure you take all of Lloydminster with you.

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  1. Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:28 pm
    I have to say, as I said before, that all this talk about Ontario ruining it for Alberta and talk of separation is just rhetoric spun by the right wing, pro- American corporate forces, designed to divide and conquer, making it easier to rape Canada of it`s resources and riches! I don`t want the liberals either, but the conservatives just weren`t positive change at all! I get the feeling that most people, be it in Ontario or Alberta, don`t quite know who, and what, they are voting for!

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    Dave Ruston

  2. Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:39 pm
    A very thoughtful article. I hope they can print it as an editorial in the Alberta (and other province's) newspapers.

  3. by avatar Jesse
    Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:41 pm
    Can anyone explain the history of why we have provinces in the first place?

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    Jesse

  4. Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:22 pm
    This is not a real scientific history of Canada as much as it is a common sense one on my part. Our provinces, like the states to our south, originate from more or less distinct communities and/or regional differences, perhaps more so in Canada's case due to our small population relative to our geographic size.

    Clearly, divisions between some provinces are more arbitrary than others, like for example, the straight borders of Western Canada that run along lines of latitude and longitude.

    But even within such places, like Saskatchewan and Alberta, there do exist distinct communities and regions from their neighbours. The large Ukranian population of northern Alberta is clearly distinct from the large Scandinavian population of central Saskatchewan, for example. (Forgive me if my demographics are not up to par) The low lakes of Manitoba are in stark contrast from the snowy peaks of the BC Rockies. As a result, there will naturally be differences between the peoples in those places and their needs and desires.

    So the provinces do clearly have an historical and geographical raison d'etre and while they may not be the most perfect dividing lines, they do serve some small purpose. Maybe we could redraw the lines better and draw more of them perhaps, to recognise the huge differences between regions and between the southern and the northern part of the 6 large provinces (Quebec to BC) but that may not be viable on a population basis. However, Nunavut was created for only around 30,000 Inuit peoples, so why can't the Northern Cree have their own territories?

    I don't think many will agree with Harris' not well thought out proposal of abolishing the provinces and having a more centralised government in Ottawa. If anything we need more democracy at the grass roots, not a more centralised bureaucracy.

    But this is not to argue against a strong federal government. We also need that as well to counter the fragmentative, seperatist tendencies of some Albertans, Quebecois and others all over this country and across the border that would like to see Canada dismembered for their own benefit. Balkanisation is not the solution to Canada's problems either, as some would have unsuspecting Canadians believe.

    BCer

  5. Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:38 pm
    The provinces arose from the (sometimes) arbitrary lines drawn by surveyors for the various foreign countries and companies who were dividing up the New World.

    And please don't assume that just because my idea doesn't appeal to you that I have not thought this out. I have, for many years ... although that certainly doesn't protect me from being wrong.

    You also assume that I would place that strong central government in Ottawa ... I would not. I would place it either in Newfoundland or Manitoba (the former because of the obvious benefit to a depressed region, the latter so that it could truly be central).

    Paul

  6. Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:04 pm
    The fact of the matter is that it is ridiculour for any Albertan to complain of being left out or to use such vague phrases as "western alienation." I have been an Albertan for 44 years and have never felt or experienced this. The only thing that Albertan's ever come up with to illustrate this is the dreaded NEP, which was abandoned after fierce oppostion from Premier Lougheed. On the contrary, over the years the federal government has developed programs that have allowed small independent oil companies to flourish in western provinces, many of which have now been sold to US interests for many times their original worth.

    I would reject the idea of breaking the various provinces into smaller state-like entities, as we would wind up with even more childish squabbling than we have now. I do think the idea of getting rid of the provinces altogether has merit. I don't know how it is in other provinces but in Alberta the provincial government is forever playing the rural vote off against the municipal vote. The provincial seats in Alberta are divided about half and half between the two even though a greater number of Albertans live in the Calgary and Edmonton (where by the way proportionally the liberal vote tends to be greater).

    Regarding Dave Rushton's comment, I don't know about the people in Ontario but my impression of Albertans is that they absolutely haven't got a clue what they are voting for. My impression here is that the only information that most people get about political and economic issues is from source like the Alliance rah-rah rag the Calgary Sun. When asked, such people can tell you all about the sins of the federal libs but when advised of the policies of the cons it is plain that they don't know about them.

  7. by avatar Flick
    Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:21 pm
    I recall Douglas Coupland saying that if Canada had been settled from
    West to East, there would be five provinces instead of BC and the
    Maritimes would all be one.

    He was referring to communications / travel timescales at the much-
    earlier time when the East was settled, which made it reasonable to use
    smaller turf-divisions. Nowadays, perhaps we don't need any!

    Growing up in Ontario, rarely did anyone even USE the word Ontario. We
    certainly didn't say we were Ontarians first, Canadians second. That
    attitude seems to exist in every province except Ontario, for some
    reason... everyone feels hard done by.

    In Newfoundland, at the time of Mulroney, people I met referred to me
    as an "Upper-Canadian Snotrag." That was when the fishermen were
    banging down the leg doors over the federal Cod cancellation. I couldn't
    feel insulted because it was too hilarious. They also sometimes referred
    to me as "Canadian," suggesting they themselves were something else.

    I also met Cape Bretoneers, at the same time, who wanted to "Blow Up
    The Causeway" because Nova Scotia was oppressing them!

    I think my point is, everyone always hates the central government and
    blames them for all their problems. If Quebec separated, the Gaspe
    would start hating Quebec City's policies (if indeed they don't already).

    Let's stop talking about Alberta separatism because it's insane. Even
    first nations don't talk about separation, and I'd love to hear an Albertan
    explain how they're more exploited and ignored than THEM.

    The only really cool separatist movement, in my mind, is the Republic of
    East Van.

    ---
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  8. Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:31 pm
    I think your demographics are close, but even within Alberta, there are divisions. The Cypress Hills have more in common with southerners in Saskatchewan than the German/Slavic farmers in the north west, or the Newfs of the north east oilsands.<p><p>---<br>"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme" Mark Twain <br />
    "The greatest price of not participating in politics is being governed by your inferiors." Plato

  9. Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:49 pm
    Saskatchewan should be a natural NDP area because there are a lot of poor people but not a lot of immigrants (immigrants, at least in Toronto, seem to vote Liberal just because a lot of them believe it was the Liberals that let them into the country). But if my family is any guide, even though they are poor farmers they vote Conservative because they identify with a brother/sister or son/daughter who moved to Calgary and became a corporate type with a new house and a new car. They figure it could happen in Saskatchewan too if they just worked harder but, of course, Saskatchewan doesn't have the oil like Alberta does so Saskatchewan will always be the poor cousin. Also, a lot of poor farmers vote Conservative just because they figure guns and Jesus are more important than government help should they have to choose.

    - BD

  10. by gula
    Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:58 am
    Thanks for that article. It really expresses my feelings. I was listening to part of Rex Murphy's phone-in and I couldn't believe my ears. Here at least, nobody I know believes for one second that the conservatives are anything other than the old reform/alliance with all their regressive social agenda. Here is the final tally from my riding: CON 1217 2.54%, MP (pot party) 613 1.28%, ML (marxiste-leniniste) 256 0.53%


    As far as wiping out the provinces goes, I really don't think that would go over well here in Québec. Just thinking about it has me howling with laughter.

    But I am definitely a strong advocate of proportional representation. I have felt cheated in every election by the present system. Many countries have it and it seems to work just fine. As for your worry about voting for the candidate of your choice, some countries give you two votes, one for the party and one for a candidate. And if your candidate doesn't get it, well s/he doesn't in the current system either. I also believe that, on top of better representing the wishes of the electorate, it might also lessen regional concentration.

  11. Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:35 am
    I too am an advocate for doing away with the Provincial borders and govenments. But I propose that municipal and reginonal govenments take over for all local concerns and the feds provide us with a high standard of health, education, security, and they oversee the sustainability of our natural resources and foreign policy. This way each community would have hands on solutions for their individual requirements. (I just posted this comment on another thread early this a.m.) We're in tune Mr. Harris.

    With regards to Albertans complaining about Ontario not wanting to make change, boy, talk about the pot and the kettle thingy. How many years have the Cons been in control of Alberta? Guess what Alberta the rest of Canada wants you to EMBRACE CHANGE!!!

  12. by RPW
    Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:56 am
    The provinces we have are generally too big, and with many diverse geographic and economic regions. I would break the provinces along geographic lines, which would create more provinces but smaller. I would however, make these provinces subsidiary in power to municipalities, just as I would make the federal government subdiary to the provinces. (top down government does not work in a democracy!)

    Look up an author by the name of Dave Volek (from Alberta) who has published a thoughtful exercise he labels "Tiered Governance".

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    RickW

  13. Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:57 am
    I can see the problem with Quebec. However I can see all of Canada letting go of their borders,and still allowing Quebec to be an island unto itself and that not being an insurmountable problem. It would not require them to separate from the country yet they can be considered one big region or municipality??? (making reference to my post above)

  14. by RPW
    Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:00 am
    "<i>On the contrary, over the years the federal government has developed programs that have allowed small independent oil companies to flourish in western provinces, many of which have now been sold to US interests for many times their original worth.</i> " Whcih is just what the NEP sought (in it's "purest" form) to prevent. However, the NEP was seen as an oil grab by Eastern Canada, and the East never thought to offer reassurances that it was not. So in a way, I cannot blame Alberta (and the west in general) for thinking ill of the East.<p>---<br>RickW



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