Battle For 'Net Neutrality' Arrives In Canada And Could Forever Alter Internet

Posted on Sunday, November 05 at 12:21 by Anonymous
But Lawson says that could change drastically if Canadian telecommunications companies like Bell, Telus and Rogers follow the lead of their American counterparts, including Verizon and AT&T. Canadian companies have already argued in various forums that Net neutrality legislation isn't necessary. "Our position on network diversity/neutrality is that it should be determined by market forces, not regulation," Jacqueline Michelis, a spokeswoman for Bell Canada, said in a recent e-mail to The Canadian Press. That viewpoint is making those who advocate for a free and open Internet nervous. "Let's say you're Rogers and you're trying to sell Major League Baseball stuff so the Toronto Blue Jays content loads faster than anyone else's, or you're Bell Globemedia, so you ensure that CTV content loads far faster than the CBC's does," says Michael Geist, a professor at the University of Ottawa who specializes in Internet law. Rogers owns the Jays and Bell Globemedia owns CTV. "There's clear incentive there for those who have the economic interests to discriminate. That's why it's necessary to ensure that there's a level playing field and you have to do that legislatively." Lawson says Canadian companies want exactly what American companies want - to control the web and make a lot of money doing so. "There's a big push in Canada right now to allow those sorts of discriminatory practices," Lawson says. "The companies that own the pipes of the Internet - the telecom companies - haven't liked sitting back and watching big content providers like Google and Yahoo make billions of dollars. They want a piece of the pie, and they want to be able to favour their own content or the content of the corporations that would pay them big money." http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/MediaNews/2006/11/04/pf-2231599.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on November 6, 2006]

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  1. by RPW
    Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:44 pm
    Not much different than O&G, water, electricity.......wait until it becomes an essential part of the society, then corner the market and (by the self-same and most vociferous, upholders of free enterprise) throw the free enterprise baby out with the (now privatised) bathwater.....

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  2. Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:50 pm
    The idea is clearly to turn the internet into a massive propaganda outlet, where the "information" becomes read-only and massively biased in favor of the establishment.

    We all knew that they had to do something about free speech over the internet. I mean, how can they allow websites operating on a shoe string budget to out compete websites such as CNN that are funded with multimillion dollar budgets? That's just not fair!

  3. Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:42 pm
    Is there anything "Google" don't own. Those are the items your favorite search engine will have at the end of their long,long lists. The highest payer of advertising is the highest on the list. There are very few servers who don't work on that principle. A "perfect, universal democracy". I don't think so. It's not that long since bulletin boards but look at the changes. Advertising approach exceed any other media sources. We now got browsers to compete with the onslaught (or so they say). The net is big business. "The universal Democracy is Capitalism" and NOT perfect.

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  4. by Deacon
    Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:01 pm
    "I mean, how can they allow websites operating on a shoe string budget to out compete websites such as CNN that are funded with multimillion dollar budgets? That's just not fair!"

    Since when have the super-rich and privileged ever been concerned with "fairness"?

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  5. Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:48 pm
    "Our position on network diversity/neutrality is that it should be determined by market forces, not regulation"

    In other words, the internet should be turned into a monopoly regulated by a few special interest groups that don't want to see any competition at all.

  6. Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:35 am
    First and foremost, this issue is mainly about media consolidation (MC), no doubt a huge threat to modern day democracy. Just to get an idea of what we're dealing with here, MC has been championed by the likes of Conrad Black, Brian Mulroney and the Asper family. That should say quite a bit.<br />
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    These individuals have supported MC because it is in THEIR best interest (not the Canadian people's best interest) to eliminate dissenting and informed opinions which may get people thinking. Of course, it is also in their best interest to get their buddies in the Government to eliminate all forms of competition.<br />
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    The Corporate backed Government supports MC because it (1) helps to keep the population in the dark about a variety of issues and (2) helps their filthy rich buddies make more and more and more.<br />
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    <a href="http://www.cariboo.bc.ca/carryon/dcharbon/forum/blackink.htm">http://www.cariboo.bc.ca/carryon/dcharbon/forum/blackink.htm</a><br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/canwest-and-lobby-kind-reader-alerted.html">http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/canwest-and-lobby-kind-reader-alerted.html</a><br />
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    Even if the major players were permitted to eliminate all the smaller competition on the net, they would still have a difficult time succeeding. The bottom line is the information Big Media is providing to the public is total crap and their websites pretty much suck all the way around.<br />
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    Personally, I would rather wait an hour for a quality website to load than have instant access to a bunch of self-serving rubbish. Just because the only item on the menu is horses**t, it does not mean it has to be eaten.

  7. Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:00 am
    So if Corporations and Governements want to limit access to content on the net using money as the limiting factor, what is stopping people from creating their own net, sans business?

  8. Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:29 am
    "Personally, I would rather wait an hour for a quality website to load than have instant access to a bunch of self-serving rubbish."

    I've been given this subject some additional thought since yesterday, and I came to the same conclusion - even if they force high volume 'alternative' websites to load very slowly, the exact same number of people will be patiently waiting in line for these websites to load anyway, while CNN, FOX, CTV, and so on, would continue to be largely ignored - probably even more so because you'd be able to identify the quality websites by how slowly they load up!

  9. Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:54 am
    "So if Corporations and Governements want to limit access to content on the net using money as the limiting factor, what is stopping people from creating their own net, sans business?" <br><br> <a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9075-2023600,00.html">Rumours mount over Google's internet plan</a> <br><br> <a href="http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=6906">In Threat to Internet’s Clout, Some Are Starting Alternatives</a> <br><br> Other ways to get around imposed bandwidth broadcast limits is to make us of P2P technologies, where many copies of the same content can individually broadcast data requests in parallel, so that even if each node is slow, the combined effort will be very fast. For example through bittorrent, I can download very large files at high speeds that are made available through many slow connections. <br><br> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network">Overlay network</a> <br>

  10. Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:01 pm
    So, why don't these bastions of free enterprise charge more money to those who they wish to make money from? I mean, if they provide Google's link to the net they can charge more money, right? Oh wait, free market forces would probably make google switch to a cheaper source or one with better service. Same for each of the backbone ISPs between google and me.

    As for *my* end of the pipe, please, charge me more to get to google. I'm sure I can find or make a cheaper connection just like google too. Same goes for making connections I use slower.

    This isn't about free-market, it's about legislation designed to stick it to the customer, big or small. Charge for services that they aren't even providing and to control the network for their own profits. (IE. Marketing.)

  11. by
    Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:09 pm
    <a href="http://www.telecomreview.ca/epic/internet/intprp-gecrt.nsf/en/h_rx00094e.html"> The Policy Review Panel: </a><br> <p> The Telecommunications Policy Review Panel was established by the Minister of Industry on April 11, 2005. <p> <b>1) Dr. Gerri Sinclair: </b> <br> The former General Manager of Microsoft Network Canada. She has served with the Information Highway Advisory Council and <a href="http://www.canarie.ca/press/releases/06_07_04.html"> CANARIE Inc </a> ., and on the boards of TELUS and BC Telecom. She is the recipient of the 1999 Canadian Women in Communications’ Woman of the Year Award, the 1999 Canadian Women in New Media Pioneer Award, the 2000 Influential Woman in Business Award, as well as the 2003 Sarah Kirke award for the most outstanding Canadian woman in high tech. <p> <i>(NB: CANARIE Inc published: <a href="http://www.canarie.ca/press/releases/04_02_02.html"> Study on Internet Voting Proves Voters Want e-Democracy </a>)</i> <p> <b>2) Hank Intven </b><br> A partner in <a href="http://www.mccarthy.ca/en/mediaroom/default.asp"> a leading Canadian law firm </a><br> He has over 25 years of experience and has been involved in many of the major legal, regulatory and business developments that have affected the Canadian and international telecommunications industries. <p> <i>(NB: A firm for <a href="http://www.mccarthy.ca/en/mediaroom/dealscases.asp"> business interests </a>: “Our approach creates a single, client-focused team that takes advantage of our size and scale, and frees up our lawyers to do what they do best: delivering customized legal services that help you achieve your goals.”)</i> <p> <b>3) André Tremblay </b><br> André Tremblay has more than 20 years experience in telecom. For almost 10 years, Mr. Tremblay served as President and Chief Executive Officer of Microcell (Fido) Telecommunications Inc – now a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fido_Solutions"> subsidiary of Rogers Inc </a> <P> <B>BRACEWELL COMMENTS: </B> <BR> Both parties serve the same corporate interests. What democracy?

  12. Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:40 pm
    They did the same thing with the "9-11 Commission" in the USA - stacked it with conflict of interest hacks who all shared the same interests that were aligned with the desired outcome.

    This is just more of the same dog & pony show, designed to fool the public into thinking that the government is doing a fine job of thinking for us.

  13. Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:38 pm
    I always knew this would happen and that the final frontier of free speech would some day be crushed.

  14. by Wraun
    Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:27 pm
    "Gallagher and other backers of Icann also say that the countries loudest in demanding more international input -- China, Libya, Syria, Cuba -- have nondemocratic governments. Allowing these nations to have influence over how the Internet works could hinder freedom of speech, they say. "

    Sometimes I really wonder if people even listen to themselves speak.



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