Watching Things Get Worse

Posted on Tuesday, November 28 at 10:36 by Ed Deak
Five years on, however, the Blairs and the Bushes have become less vocal about the women whom we were meant to have liberated. Bush has not commented on the fact that the majority of girls in Afghanistan still cannot go to school. When Tony Blair visited Kabul earlier this month, he did not comment on the recent report by one charity, Womankind Worldwide, which stated: "It cannot be said that the status of Afghan women has changed significantly in the last five years." I went to Afghanistan soon after the Taliban had been ousted from Kabul, and found that their departure was genuinely allowing women to hope again - even in places where you might have thought all hope would have died. I remember interviewing women in the very first post- Taliban Loya jirga (grand assembly), who said: "The doors of everything have been closed to women for so long. Now we hope the doors are swinging open." One of the places that stuck most clearly in my mind was a dirt-poor village called Sar Asia, on the outskirts of Kabul. There I met women who had been unable to leave their houses for education during the Taliban regime, who had just set up a literacy course with the help of Rawa, the Revolutionary Association of Women of Afghanistan. When I asked the students, who ranged from 13-year-old girls to 50-year- old widows, if they thought all women in Afghanistan wanted more freedom and equality, my translator struggled to keep up with the clamour: "Of course we do," said one widow furiously. "Even women who are not allowed to come to this class want that. But our husbands and brothers and fathers don't want it. The mullahs keep saying freedom is not good for us." Over the past few years, as news from Afghanistan has become less positive, I have been wondering what had happened to these women. Last month I was able to revisit the country, and one of the first things I did was to go back to Sar Asia. The teacher invited me back into the room that once had been crowded with women learning to read. This time, the room is empty, its net curtains closed against the bright sun. "We're not teaching here any more," the teacher - I'll call her Alya, because she has asked me not to use her real name now - tells me sadly, sitting alone on the cushions on the floor. "They were threatening us, telling us not to do it any more, and we were scared. For a while we continued, but we were afraid that they might do something worse. This place is a place of Taliban. Neighbours may work for the government in the morning but at night they are the same Taliban with the same thoughts." I tell her I remember the enthusiasm of the women in the course four years ago. "Yes, we were very happy. Rawa members came and talked about how they could help us to make a literacy course for women. We were all very pleased. But that has stopped now. I think in the west you think that now conditions are good here, that everyone can go to school or go to work for the government. But now we are just watching things get worse." http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,,1958707,00.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on November 29, 2006]

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  1. by RPW
    Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:15 am
    <blockquote> But our husbands and brothers and fathers don't want it. The mullahs keep saying freedom is not good for us." </blockquote> So it turns out the entire male population of Afghanistan is Taliban? Or is it that Georgie & Stevie actually wouldn't mind seeing our own women "barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen"? My hat is off (yet again) to the two recent Canadian deaths. <p>---<br>"No kingdom could be ruled without lies - - for lies are the things we use to build our reputations."........<br />
    King Arthur <br />

  2. Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:24 am
    The whole population may not be Taliban, but brainwashed with the same religion and philosophy that gives the males the power of life and death over women, which they use with glee.

    It is an old historical and psychological fact, that the most impoverished and deprived and also the most powerful people are the most cruel, brutal and mindless when it comes to the treatment of others they suddenly have within their power.

    I grew up in a highly religious, Catholic/Christian society, where wife beating was not only the norm, but believed that women actually liked it and asked for it. I also knew women, here in Canada, who had some perverse desire to receive it. We tried to help one, who came to us repeatedly, all bruised and bleeding, but she turned against us, calling us all kinds of dirty names for "trying to ruin her marriage". I talked this over with a psychiatrist friend, who advised me that many such are hopeless cases, suffering from some kind of guilt syndrome, extremely difficult to cure.

    E.g. female circumcision on little girls is willingly performed by old women, who brainwash them with tales of how it pleases God. This has to be the most brutal and insane example of religious brainwash, followed closely by neoclassical market capitalism that destroys even more, yet pursued by elected governments.

    When people are mentally conditioned into some crazy ideas, it is extremely difficult, and often takes generations, to turn them around.

    The two Canadian soldiers died for nothing, because our pitiful intervention accomplishes nothing, except giving politicians and generals causes for silly chest beating.

    As I wrote before, unless NATO is willing to put in half a million infantry, with posts in every village, for 25, or more years, Afghanistan remains a hopeless case.

    Ed Deak.

  3. by RPW
    Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:46 am
    "The two Canadian soldiers died for nothing...."
    Agreed! But I still take off my cap to them.........

    As to "female circumcision on little girls is willingly performed by old women, who brainwash them with tales of how it pleases God", one must begin to question just what kinds of gods we have out there............

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    "No kingdom could be ruled without lies - - for lies are the things we use to build our reputations."........
    King Arthur

  4. Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:05 am
    "one must begin to question just what kinds of gods we have out there............"

    The gods and the devils get far to much blame. The fault lies with those who refuse to tke personal responsability for their actions.The kinds of gods out there are a reflection of the (points to head) gods in here.

    ---
    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  5. by RPW
    Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:44 am
    "Out there" is but an extension of "in here"............or is it the other way around? Perhaps (on reconsideration) the latter......"out there" is a whole lot of vacuum; hence not unlike "in here" for far too many of us.......

    ---
    "No kingdom could be ruled without lies - - for lies are the things we use to build our reputations."........
    King Arthur

  6. Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:52 am
    "Afghanistan remains a hopeless case"

    The only cure for Afghanistan, is to leave it alone and let it find its own cure, whatever that may be. What goes on in that country is none of our business, as it is none of their business what goes on in this country.

    What Canada is doing through NATO is appalling as well as stupid. People are dying for nothing, and even the real excuse for being in there is not working.

    The only thing being accomplished is that a few already filthy rich people are getting more filthy rich through the sale of their military hardware and other bullshit, while everyone else is getting poorer and more miserable.

    Why Canadians are offering up their lives for this nonsense can only be explained through mental conditioning (brainwashing) that makes them want to commit suicide for some false belief.

    Ed, you talk about religions, and it seems to me that a solder is infected with a form of fanatical religion based on centuries of waging war. These infected guys dress funny, conduct their own religious ceremonies and rituals, live in a commune, and bow to a higher power that is just as false as any God.

  7. by RPW
    Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:46 pm
    "As I wrote before, unless NATO is willing to put in half a million infantry, with posts in every village, for 25, or more years, Afghanistan remains a hopeless case." <br />
    <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/11/29/nato-react.html">http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/11/29/nato-react.html</a><br />
    <br />
    Seem they are beginning to come around to your assertion, Ed.<p>---<br>"No kingdom could be ruled without lies - - for lies are the things we use to build our reputations."........<br />
    King Arthur <br />

  8. Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:03 am
    Interesting that a few weeks ago there were 48 plus 2 more Canadian deaths, but now only 44 , according to this article?

    60,000 NATO troops are still a waste.

    But then, that's the military for you, and also big business, living on lies and coverups.

    Ed Deak



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