Denmark And Jyllands-Posten: The Background To A Provocation

Posted on Friday, February 10 at 10:02 by Anonymous
In a country renowned for its tolerance and openness, the social crisis and the betrayals carried out by the old working class organizations have opened the way for the emergence of political forces which systematically encourage xenophobia and racism. Thenewspaper Jyllands-Posten has played a prominent role in this process. Last autumn Jyllands-Posten assigned 40 prominent Danish caricaturists to draw the Prophet Muhammad. Twelve responded and the results were published on September 30. The project was deliberately designed to provoke. According to the cultural editor of the newspaper, Flemming Rose, it was aimed at “testing the limits of self-censorship in Danish public opinion” when it comes to Islam and Muslims. He added: “In a secular society, Muslims have to live with the fact of being ridiculed, scoffed at and made to look ridiculous.” When the anticipated reaction by the Muslim community failed to arise, the newspaper continued its campaign, determined to create a full-scale scandal. After a week had gone by without protest, journalists turned on Danish Islamic religious leaders who were well known for their fundamentalist views and demanded: “Why don’t you protest?” Eventually, the latter reacted and alerted their co-thinkers in the Middle East. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/feb2006/denm-f10.shtml

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  1. Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:31 pm
    Interestring how as the events unfold more evidence points to the deliberate provocation by Flemming Rose, aint it?

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    Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.
    Attrib. Al Einstien

  2. by ouhite
    Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:47 am
    I am astounded. A classmate asked me why the row and violence started AFTER the original cartoon was published in the September of last year, and I had no answer. NOW I know. This is ridiculous and I am going to post this elsewhere and try to inform others of the fuller context. Unbelievable. I am glad this issue received the kind of coverage it deserved with these 2 articles.

  3. Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:35 am
    Can you point to a more reputable news source? Something more independend and unbiased? Something with a slightly larger readership?

  4. Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:42 pm
    >>Something more independend and unbiased?<<

    Is there such a source?

  5. Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:05 pm
    "Can you point to a more reputable news source?"

    What makes one source more 'reputable' than another? Tradition? Is the New York Times more reputable than Al Jazeera?


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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

  6. Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:49 pm
    Is it possible for the question tobe a red herring?

    I believe it is, and ironic to boot.
    Shoot the messenger!
    setup situation that are in reality ,traps.

    It is a variation of ...a statement on an other thread...
    'using cut and paste is a cheap tactic to makeyour point, can't you think for yourself?'
    or some such variation

    and the duality within the question, that of having a degreeoflogic . is some what valid.

    and the red herring "pulls" the conversationaway from the main thrust







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    Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.
    Attrib. Al Einstien

  7. by DSR
    Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:02 pm
    <<Can you point to a more reputable news source? Something more independend and unbiased? Something with a slightly larger readership?>>

    Here's another version:
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    "Kaare Bluitgen is a Danish writer. His children go to a school where most of the other pupils are Muslim. "These children must learn about Danish heroes," he said, "and Danish children should learn about Muslim heroes."

    So he wrote a children's life of the Prophet Muhammad. In the end, he found an illustrator, but only after three others turned him down, to avoid violating Islamic law. When an editor at a Danish newspaper found about this, he decided to publish cartoon images of Muhammad as a form of literary protest. We all know how that ended...".

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    So you can see two very different versions of the same event. My question is one of responsibility. Every time some extremists carry on like drunken oranguatans, the apoligists go searching for a Jew or American to blame. I teach my children not to make excuses when they behave like idiots - it would be nice if the same was expected of the pyromaniac rioters who seem to have nothing better to do all day.

    We can debate who has what to gain from these riots and the "root causes". Some suggest the Syrians and Iranians are the chief beneficiaries. Denmark is due for the rotational Presidency of UN Security Council - and this offers a convenient excuse to brand them as enemies of Islam. Others have different views, that seem to evolve as time goes on. French, Norweigan and Canadian re-prints are ignored by the apoligists of radical Islam, in favor of blaming the US and Israel. As if no one else west or east, including the idiots lighting the fires, are responsible.

    btw: if this current conspiracy theory is accurate, are we suggesting Iranian leadership is being duped? Most of these countries are police states with gov't run media. Foreign free press are heavily restricted. Surely they could bring some hapless rioters under control long enough to ensure we infidels didn't hear about them? Or could it be they want the riots AND the press? Maybe these writers providing the "background to a provocation" who feel so strongly that Iran just wants nukes for the power - or that this is really about class strugle, should be informing the tyrants of their priveleged information. Seems like that would be more effective than preaching to the choir of anti-US and Israel lefties in the west? Just a thought. Or maybe preaching to the choir and blaming Jews/Americans represents the full extent of original thought they have to offer? As my dad used to say...When your only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail.

  8. Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:22 pm
    WOW!! Your dad was Maslow?

    When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail-Abraham Maslow

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    Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.
    Attrib. Al Einstien

  9. Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:26 am
    This story is getting more "legs" than a milliped.<br />
    The smart money is on holding off judgement until more is exposed<br />
    <br />
    <br />
    The Pipeline To War<br />
    <a href="http://www.rense.com/general69/pipee.htm">http://www.rense.com/general69/pipee.htm</a><br />
    By Barry Chamish<br />
    2-11-6<br />
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    Imagine a dozen cartoons serving the same purpose as Pearl Harbor or Sarajevo, being the final straw that led the planet into world war. Now imagine the cartoons were a staged event, designed purposely to drag us into unimaginable violence. If that is the case, then those who foisted the plot on an unsuspecting world, would be guilty of super-mass-murder. <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    And what if the latest candidate for the Attila the Hun award goes to Daniel Pipes? That is precisely what is being claimed throughout the world wide web at this moment. Though you will not be happy with the sources and sites, read them seriously, no matter how much you've been trained to believe they must be lying. <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    The world is upside down. Israel's highest-level "friends and allies" are selling us down the river. And our "enemies" may yet become our allies when they realize that Israelis and Jews have been had. <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    I personally, am no defender of Islam. I consider it a culture of immense repression. I do, however, believe their sensitivities are being exploited with the goal of creating a world war. In this war, like the last, Jews will be on the front line and will be the biggest losers of all. <br />
    <br />
    <br />
    I have long proved that the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) is intent on getting the war started. To do so, fear and resentment against Islam must be spread persuasively. For that purpose, they have chosen a leading member, Daniel Pipes. <br />
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    Too many Jews have fallen for the enemy of my enemy line and believe by fomenting anti-Arab attacks that Daniel Pipes is their ally. In fact, his work has nothing whatsoever to do with defending Israel and a lot to do with involving her in the first line of a world war. <br />
    <br />
    Pipes is not a "radical" advocate of Israel as his critics believe. He is, in fact, the worst kind of enemy of the Jewish state. It is about time that Israelis and her critics figured out the real game plan <br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.<br />
    Attrib. Al Einstien

  10. by DSR
    Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:35 am
    Diog: Nice retort. I said he used to say it, I didn't claim he coined the phrase. Thanks for proving my point though. Even after his death my father's lessons serve well.

    p.s. learn to spell EINSTEIN.

  11. by DSR
    Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:40 am
    Diog:

    Have you not learned to spell Einstein yet? Typos are expected in the blogosphere, but at least you could correct your closing quote.

  12. by DSR
    Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:40 am
    <<...the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) is intent on getting the war started. To do so, fear and resentment against Islam must be spread persuasively. For that purpose, they have chosen a leading member, Daniel Pipes. >>


    <<Pipes is not a "radical" advocate of Israel as his critics believe. He is, in fact, the worst kind of enemy of the Jewish state. It is about time that Israelis and her critics figured out the real game plan >>


    It sure is about time. If only they would listen, we could avert World War. Sadly, only you, and some other people with web access, have figured out the "real game plan". Both Jews and Muslims are being manipulated. Funny how they haven't figured this out? Let's try to follow this ever evolving theory:

    Citizens in tyrannical Arab police states with controlled media, and democratic Israel with free media are both being manipulated. Leaders, government officials, bureaucracies, secret service and military on both sides are being played for suckers in a grand scheme by people who want to start WWIV. This, brought to us by the same people who faked 911, the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor and the moon landings.

    The story begins when hapless cartoonists in the UK puppet nation of Denmark were tricked into lighting the tinder box...er slow fuse, later helped by a duped Danish Imam and press in Norway and France. A Canadian student paper also took the bait. Now, evil Jews like Daniel Pipes (who btw is working to destroy his race) have duped both sides of the Mideast Conflict but mostly the Jews. Pipes and Council also hoodwinked Muslim rioters across Asia and Africa and the free press in Western Europe and North America. Really, only Antarctica is left untouched by this world wide uber-scheme.

    Similarly, Muslims peacefully protesting in London today are also aiding and abetting this global conspiracy by legitimizing the theory that rioters are responsible. They are also too daft to realize the real agenda is being played out by a neocon Global Star Chamber of rogue Jews and American business interests, with operational support from the secret service. The motive for triggering this global thermal nuclear war? Why Big Business of course. They want to destroy the ME and most of the planet mostly for the fun of it, but also in the hopes of profiting from nuclear winter. If only everyone around the world wasn't so stupid and uninformed, perhaps the global catastrophe could be averted. As you say..."It is about time that Israelis and her critics figured out the real game plan".

  13. Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:34 am
    Thanks for the the spelling tip, spelling is a prticular weakness of mine and I know someone will be there to help me with the corrections<br />
    the retort was meant to be a tension breaker and to show off a tad.<br />
    good of you to take it so well for taking it so well. <br />
    <br />
    Fathers lessons... Bless them! <br />
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    DSR Your post of 12:02 pm didn’t receive the attention it was due (and Yes I have made the spelling adjustments, To be honest the spelling error was not a typo but a real error. My spelling may be faulty but my logic serves well enough considering my handicap. It is an oddity to me to be corrected on spelling by a poor speller. Strugle/ struggle. Priveleged/ privileged. ) There are of course other spelling errors in your entry , but Hey! Who’s counting That bit of nonsense over I will return to your thesis.<br />
    “My question is one of responsibility. Every time some extremists carry on like drunken oranguatans, the apoligists go searching for a Jew or American to blame.”<br />
    <br />
    Maslow’s quote and your fathers lesson apply equally well in your above assertions. Inflammatory and emotionally charged statement belie not balanced thought, but a bias on the topics of Islamic extremist, those you call their apologists’ and purposed provocateurs.<br />
    I suggest your ”only tool” may be your bias.<br />
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    The following paragraph is loaded with conjecture, supposition, non sequitors and red herrings. I won’t bother to point them out individually to you as I am near certain you are familiar enough with them. <br />
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    By taking an interest in global politics I have learned there are more twists and turns, motivations, counter motivations than in most novels.<br />
    <br />
    The mantra “conspiracy theory” seems to de rigueur a rebuttal with those holding strong counter-belief. May I suggest <a href="http://www.nobeliefs.com/beliefs.htm">http://www.nobeliefs.com/beliefs.htm</a> for more info regarding ‘Belief’<br />
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    <p>---<br>Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.<br />
    Attrib. Al EINSTEIN

  14. Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:21 am
    at this precise moment I haven't it in me to give your post the justice it is due --- down with the flu <br />
    I did notice on global this pm that Ezra Levant publisher of the Westerm Standard has chose to publish the "cartoons"<br />
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    What a sweatie! should Wikipedia <br />
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    Ezra Levant<br />
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br />
    Jump to: navigation, search<br />
    Ezra Levant (born 1972) is a Canadian publisher, columnist, lawyer and political activist.<br />
    Born in Calgary, Levant holds a commerce degree from the University of Calgary and an LL.B. from the University of Alberta.<br />
    He is considered to be right-wing by Canadian standards. He has been critical of Canadian foreign policy and anti-American sentiment in Canadian politicians, is known for his staunch defence of Israel, and is an advocate for more provincial rights, especially for Western Canada.<br />
    From 1991 to 1999, Levant was an activist with the Reform Party of Canada, first as a student organizer, then as a parliamentary assistant to party leader Preston Manning. In 1999, Levant left Ottawa to join the editorial board of the fledgling National Post newspaper in Toronto.<br />
    In 2001, Levant returned to Calgary and in 2002 won the Canadian Alliance party nomination for the riding of Calgary Southwest, stepping aside after some hesitation so that new party leader Stephen Harper could run there.<br />
    After practising law, in 2004 Levant co-founded the Western Standard, a conservative/libertarian magazine designed to represent Western Canada, political conservatism, as well as libertarianism.<br />
    Levant has written three non-fiction books: Youthquake (1996), Fight Kyoto (2002), and The War On Fun (2005).<br />
    Retrieved from "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levant"">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levant"</a>;<br />
    Categories: Canadian politicians | Canadian journalists | Jewish Canadians | Living people<br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_zolf/20020402.html">http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_zolf/20020402.html</a><br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>Nothing in this World makes People so Afraid as the Influence of an Independant Minded Individual.<br />
    Attrib. Al EINSTEIN



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