Brandon Woman Rebuked By Her Church For Criticizing City

As long as the church does not get tax dollars why the hell should we care? It is a private entity that can make up its own rules, if you don't like those rules then leave. Was she forced to join that church at gunpoint? I doubt it. Stop wasting my time and eventually tax dollars going after private entities that make private decisions, the government fucks up enough things already thank you very much.

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My freedom is more important than your great idea.
– Anonymous

As I Christian I am appalled at the actions of her Pastor.

"Pastor" Mike Davis had absolutely NO right whatsoever to publicly criticize Deborah Boschman for voicing her personal opinion concerning her desire to make her city a better place.

If he had a problem with her point of view he should have confronted her with it personally and privately and not subjected her to public humiliation the way he did, in clear violation of the scriptures he claims to hold dear.

That he did so indictes that he is unfit for the duties of the pastorate he now holds.



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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

The hypocrisy of theocracy in a democracy - nothing new here.

Agreed Deacon. If the members of the chruch are upset with the pastors views then they should ask the church higher-ups to get them a new pastor. If they like his views and want him to keep spouting off like a retard then that is up to them, not up to you, not up to me and most definetly not up to ONE person who is a member of a PRIVATE organization. If people want to be part of a tow the line, don't upset the applecart kind of congregation that is their right. If what the pastor said and did is revolting to the congregation then the congregation will do something about it, otherwise it is none of our business. I liken this to a bar or eating establishment that allows people to smoke, if you don't like smoke don't go in, if you don't want to work in a smoke filled environment then don't work there. You and I have no right to tell someone what they can and can't do on their private property, doing so has gotten people killed in the past and if this kind of BS keeps up it will keep getting people killed in the future. Wars have been fought over property rights, they still are. The best thing for this women to do would be to find another church to attend that promotes free speech and to leave the cesspool of filth she currently attends in the past.

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My freedom is more important than your great idea.
– Anonymous

I personally do not take any joy in criticizing the actions of the Brandon pastor, and the others like him that I am certain are out there.

I have heard some pastors speak (I will not say "preach" simply because what they were spouting was political rhetoric) and cannot for the life of me understand why they have chosen to ally themselves with business interests and the political right instead of with the poor and disenfranchised.

Just who exactly is their faith in, God or politics?

That's what I want to know.


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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

"The Weapon" - Rush

I think a lot of pastors/religious officials are just plain retards, they parrot whatever the richest and most powerful members of the congregation believe. Money talks, especially in religion. I love the old saying:

"Man will be free when the last politician is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

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My freedom is more important than your great idea.
– Anonymous

Hey wasjod Got one that covers the other two Horsemen of the Apocalypse: Lawyers and Bankers?

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We have met the enemy and he is us
Pogo
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
Plutarch

I agree that the pastor had no right to interfere in his parishioner's private opinion. It shows what kind of pastor/church this is that would condemn a person for wanting her town to be a better place.

Sadly, there are too many religious "officials" that are sticking their noses into politics. They should go be politicians, and get out of their leadership position in the church.

YOU MISSED THE POINT!

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"We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."
- Justice Louis Brandeis

And the article doesn't address how he got her letter in the first place. Was it made available to the general public? Or does he also sit on the council? Or does he have a bud on the council who slipped it to him? Was due process followed? Or is this a case of a bunch of hypocritical busybodies, with the (potential) ability to ruin other people's lives......?

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"We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."
- Justice Louis Brandeis

The way I read it was that she sent her letter to the Brandon newspaper and it was published there.

<a href="http://www.ebrandon.ca/messagethread.aspx?message_id=26055&cat_id=3">http://www.ebrandon.ca/messagethread.aspx?message_id=26055&cat_id=3</a><p>---<br>"We can have a democracy or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few. We cannot have both."<br />
- Justice Louis Brandeis

This case does raise the issue of individual freedom within our changing world. There has been an attempt by the religious right to reunite religion with politics. The interference of the clergy with this woman's right to her political views reflects that backward step.

What was this incident really about? Does this mean that to be a church member one must follow a certain political view? Or does it mean that their church is teaching the absolute deference to hierarchy and one's place in that hierarchy that can make religion a force opposed to social progress?

Actually, religion is all about controlling "private" opinion. If you are a Christian, you are not allowed to hold any opinion that does not coincide with that of the bible. Same goes for Muslim's and the Qu'aran and of course, Jews and the Torah.

Thats the whole idea behind religion - belief. If you do not believe, then you aren't really a member of that religion.