WTO Rules For US In Canada Softwood Lumber Dispute

Posted on Thursday, April 06 at 13:41 by Ed Deak
============== U.S. complied with international trade law in Canada lumber dispute, WTO rules GENEVA (AP) - The WTO ruled that the United States complied with international law in its calculation of tariffs against Canadian lumber imports, according to a report made public Monday. Canada argued the United States artificially inflated antidumping rates by using a different calculation method to avoid complying with an earlier World Trade Organization decision. But a WTO panel, which originally released its findings to the parties in February, said that the U.S. had not broken trade rules in its calculation of the duties. "We therefore consider that the United States has implemented the recommendations and rulings," the ruling concluded. "The United States did not act inconsistently with its obligations under the asserted WTO agreements." Washington imposed antidumping and countervailing duties totaling more than 27 percent in May 2002 after accusing Canada of subsidizing its lumber industry. The U.S. Commerce Department, responding to a complaint under the North American Free Trade Agreement, reduced punitive duties late last year from an average of 16 percent to less than 9 percent. Separate antidumping tariffs averaging about 4 percent were not affected. U.S. officials took the action under protest and have not ruled out an appeal before a special NAFTA dispute panel. Canada has argued the NAFTA ruling should supersede the WTO. Most U.S. timber is harvested from private land at market prices, while in Canada, the government owns 90 percent of timberlands and charges fees for logging. The fee is based on the cost of maintaining and restoring the forest. The decades-long dispute has fueled talk of an outright trade war between the world's largest trading partners and concerns that the rules of free trade under the North American Free Trade Agreement between the United States, Canada and Mexico were now unraveling. Canada supplies about one-third of the U.S. market for softwood, easily sawed pine, spruce and other wood used in home-building. Canada insists the forest policies of lumber-producing provinces may not mirror U.S. free markets in timber but they don't amount to subsidies. http://www.woai.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=E2E55217-5460-4D06-A27D-55C64E4EC983 [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on April 9, 2006]

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  1. Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:03 pm
    WTO rules for US in Canada softwood lumber dispute<

    That is this week as if it made any difference. The only way Harper and Bush would make up the mind for the timper corporations, is when they decide how Canada will cater to the US on other issues. Perhaps a little terrorist hunting in Iran to break the tension or oil for sap program. We'll take the sap if you give us the oil.

    The whole thing is nonsense and will only be resolved when the lumber barons get enough profit.

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  2. by avatar Jacob
    Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:21 am
    This is surely the biggest see-saw I have ever known.

    No wonder, see-saws are made from softwood lumber planks.

    Now what?

  3. by Deacon
    Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:15 am
    Considering that most US sawmills etc are antiques that haven't been updated since before Carter was president, they have nothing to bitch about.

    If, as I recall, in the US the corporations own forested lands that they got for a song, then what is the real difference?

    Isn't buying the resource from the government for a pitance just another form of subsidy?

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  4. by Innes
    Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:02 pm
    Three points.

    1. The Canadian government owns very little forest lands except in National Parks. The forests are largely owned by provincial governments.

    2. Even provinces in which most of forest land is privately owned dumping fees still apply (I am not sure they are as high but they still apply). This suggests that the reasons that the trade barriers are in place is either to artifically inflate the price for an inefficient industry or as a cash grab by the US government.

    3. The US argument is ideological and the fact that the WTO would accept it on ideological grounds reflects the bias of the organization.

  5. Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:13 pm
    ok I get it now, free trade means highly regulated. I guess in goverment speek everything means the opposite

  6. Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:43 pm
    The fact is that forest companies operating in Canada are receiving more subsidies and paying lower stumpage fees than their counterparts in the United States. Forest companies in Canada do less reforestation and protect less endangered species than those in the U.S. Forest companies in Canada have been purposefully low-grading valuable timber for which they pay much less stumpage fees than they would if they were more honest. As a result, the forest companies in Canada are operating a definite competitive advantage over the U.S. forest companies. Canada is allowing its valuable forests to be stripped as quickly as possible and sold at a discount to the United States - - without giving a thought to sustainable yield, adequate old growth protection, and long-term economic protection of the forest industry into the next generation. Home builders and commercial lumber companies in the United States love it, because they can get such cheap timber from Canada, when they can't it from their U.S. forest companies. Also, it is suspected that Quebec forest companies are cutting trees and selling the timber cheap through the Atlantic provinces to the U.S. without being subject to the more expensive U.S. Canada softwood trade agreement (see, "Lumber Unity in Tatters as B.C. Breaks Ranks", by Ian Jack, Financial Post, March 21, 2001). If Canada is going to participate in free trade then it must play on a level playing field. It can't dump cheap timber into the United States just to boost the immediate income of foreign and Canadian forest companies operating in Canada. Ironically, Canada has placed itself in a position where the U.S. will end up placing a countervailing duty on the Canadian timber that enters the U.S.

  7. Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:13 pm
    The fact is that forest companies operating in Canada are receiving more subsidies and paying lower stumpage fees than their counterparts in the United States. <<

    That still don't explain why logs are okay but lumber isn't. The mills are by no means, susbsidized. If it were so, there would still be many in existance. Many can't compete with the Americans. Seems odd that the American mills can do well buying Canadian timber and localy they can't afford it.

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  8. Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:58 am
    The secret is that all economic and faith based theories have always been and are built on contradictions and leaps of faith, only the blessed can understand.

    Without these contradictions sold as sciences, or divine orders, no ideology, or religion, could survive five minutes.

    The Americans know that all levels of Canadian governments are their soul mates, in the service of multinationals, with their policies sanctified by universities, they all support the WTO and NAFTA and so they can get away with anything.

    All they have to do is whistle and Canada will come running with wagging tail, to roll over on command.

    Ed Deak.

  9. by Deacon
    Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:04 pm
    Just a quick question for you.

    Have you ever driven Interstate 5 from BC down to California?

    I did a few years ago, and the amount of clear cut land I saw during one portion of the trip astonished me.

    Why?

    Because the land was INSIDE a park.

    I saw zero evidence of any reforestation, but I did see a sign announcing the presence of a large US forest company.

    Funny, I thought reforestation required the planting of trees, not signage.

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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  10. Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:07 pm
    US/Canada softwood lumber dispute is all but over now that we have M. Wilson on the job now.

    The US will get the new NAFTA agreement that they have been after and Canada and Canadians will pay the price in jobs, money and sovereignty.

    I have about given up. Just when Canada starts to stand up on its own another government party gives it all away and we become followers instead of leaders and owners of our own destiny.


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  11. Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:40 pm
    Just when Canada starts to stand up on its own another government party gives it all away and we become followers instead of leaders and owners of our own destiny.<<

    According to Harper, Martin had to just merely pick up the phone and talk to Bush to solve the dispute. Perhaps Harper lost the number to the White House. (White house, what an oxymoron)


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  12. Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:16 pm
    Just yesterday on Sunday Report Ambassador Wilkins was interviewed and once again his solution for the softwood dispute is that Canada has to get back to the negotiating table. It has become clear, clear, clear that the only way this dispute will end is when Canada gives the USofA everything they want from us. Now THAT is FREE trade! Besides, how do we know if our 5 billion hasn't been spent on a war already?

    Wilkins also indicated that Canada was finally on the right path for the 21st century. Is that to say that their PNAC agreement with Harper will finally see the light of day?

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