A Tale Of Two Deficits

Posted on Wednesday, March 01 at 08:46 by Ed Deak
If we are to fix the problem, we must understand what caused it. Trade deficits are always equal to the difference between national (domestic)savings and investment. Trade deficits are, therefore, the result either of increased investment or reduced savings. If national savings go down as when the government runs a huge fiscal deficit ­ then, unless investment goes down in tandem, the trade deficit must rise. That is why we speak of the twin deficit problem: fiscal deficits normally lead to trade deficits. We had this problem in the Ronald Reagan years, and we are having it again now. What caused the deficit? If the trade deficit is the result of the fiscal deficit, we need to push the analysis back one step further. What caused the fiscal deficit? Four years ago, the George Bush administration could blame the deficit on the economic downturn or problems inherited from the past. This is no longer the case. Economic growth has resumed and unemployment has fallen, and it is clear that America has a very large structural deficit. The turnaround from a surplus of 2% of gross domestic product (or national income) inherited from the Clinton administration to the 4% deficit is dramatic and largely due to the Bush tax cuts for upper-income Americans. Of course, the war in Iraq has contributed, but so too have the enormous increases in corporate welfare and the subsidies for agriculture. The effective tax amnesty ­ inducing American corporations to bring their money back to America in return for paying a tax that is a sixth of their normal tax ­ has made this year’s revenues look better than they otherwise would, and the deficit smaller than it otherwise would. Make no mistake, however: there is an enormous structural deficit in the American economy thanks to increased public spending and tax breaks for business and the wealthy. And structural deficits do not just go away by themselves. (PDF Link) http://www.globalagendamagazine.com/pdfs/2006/articles/Stiglitz.pdf Joseph Stiglitz is University Professor, Columbia University. He served on the Council of Economic Advisers from 1993 to 1997, was the World Bank’s chief economist from 1997 to 2000 and was awarded the Nobel Prize for economics in 2001. [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on March 1, 2006]

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  1. Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:32 am
    Yeah, but America thinks it can fall back on a military solution to its problems.

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    Dave Ruston

  2. by avatar Spud
    Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:07 am
    Interesting.
    Yet Canada's economy just hit a trillion.So are things good or are they bad?Sales of the big ticket items are big.So people do have the money.This deficit talk has been around for years and the economy never crashes.Yet the media always talks like it will.You keep crying wolf and nobody listens.But what about the debt?There is government/corporate/personal debt.All very large.I don't think anybody really knows what they are talking about when it comes to economics,this charade is kept up to keep the public confused.After all economics is not THAT complicated.No one country is going to pull the plug on the US simply because they would be shooting themselves in the head.The other side to this,from what I have heard and from the people I talk to in the US,the US economy is in bad shape.No jobs,regardless of skill and education.Yet the media claims everything is ok.Unemployment down,but even government officials say the number are not accurate.
    So long as people keep buying,things will continue to roll.

  3. Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:28 am
    People are buying on credit, which is not an asset, but liability to the real economy. We never looked at it, or checked it before, but my wife and I now have up to about $40,000 credit limit on our credit cards, with more and more added all the time and new credit card offers in the mail, or by phone. Multiply this by millions and find a bloody economic mess.

    This is not a booming economy, but economic suicide, even, or especially when people are buying big ticket items, which means increasing the country's debt load.

    Personal debts are the ignored parts of the national debt, because admitting this simple fact would show up the fraudulent calculations and statistics by economists.

    Going on our twice a month shopping trip tomorrow, so now I have to write our monthly cheques, to be paid by cash from our account.

    Ed Deak.

  4. by shagya
    Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:59 pm
    Just rambling here but I wonder why some people get themselves in so much debt in the first place? For some with smaller incomes it might be "sort off" understandable ( although not always reasonable). But for families and individuals who are reasonably well off what is the point of new cars every few years, or an oversized house on a tiny lot in some mindless suburb?

  5. by avatar Spud
    Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:54 pm
    The people lending the money obviously are making a lot of profit,since the one borrowing is always paying interest.If the banks can create money from nothing,which they are doing,then you are making pure profit.So they are not going to tip the cart and watch all that money go away.They know they have a golden goose.So long as they keep doing what they are doing the system will continue.I do not agree with it,but I just can't see how it is going to collapse.As for going into debt,well,people are not always smart.They lust to have everything and keep up with your neighbor will do it.Most people are looking for something and one way to get it is to buy something.Of course that lasts all of 10 seconds and then they repeat the procedure,which leads to debt.Perhaps one reason cell phones are so popular is that people are lonely and trying to reach out?

  6. Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:17 pm
    "But for families and individuals who are reasonably well off what is the point of new cars every few years, or an oversized house on a tiny lot in some mindless suburb?"

    Because 'society' tells them they need "bigger, better, faster" in order to be seen as 'successful'.

    "Just rambling here but I wonder why some people get themselves in so much debt in the first place?"

    People I've seen live at their means with no thought to the future. There is no regard given to if their car breaks down, or they are suddenly unemployed. That's when they start living off the plastic, because they have no savings. Plastic that is sometimes already close to full, and the money they were spending to service that debt is now gone.

    It's no wonder that many people have 1 - 2 months between unemployment and bankrupcy.


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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

  7. Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:47 pm
    ""Because 'society' tells them they need "bigger, better, faster" in order to be seen as 'successful'.""<br />
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    of course the constant exposure to the televison people spend more time with than they do with freiends and neighbours has nothing to do with it.<br />
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    <a href="http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/reviews/Jerry.Mander.html">http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/reviews/Jerry.Mander.html</a><br />
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    "Television commercials and television shows both promote the purchase of commodities. Advertisers and television networks don't want viewers to go out and search for the answers on their own. They want to provide the answers on television."<br />
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    "Television is promoting a lifestyle. It is a virtual reality that advertisers and networks seek to promote in order to gain additional revenue."<br />
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    "Television programs, commercials, news reports and talk shows are all designed toward blind acceptance by the viewer. Because, after all, if you see it with your own eyes, it must be true. It must be real. Flashing images on the video screen. Reality inside a box.<br />
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    "Television offers neither rest nor stimulation," Mander says. "Television inhibits your ability to think, but it does not lead to freedom of mind, relaxation or renewal. It leads to a more exhausted mind. You may have time out from prior obsessive thought patterns, but that's as far as television goes.<br />
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    "The mind is never empty, the mind is filled. What's worse, it is filled with someone else's obsessive thoughts and images."<br />
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    Why do you think they call it programming?<br />
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    Mander goes into great detail discussing the physical effects television viewing has on the human body. His analysis is excellent. "<br />
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    <p>---<br>to realise our knowledge is ignorance is a noble thought.<br />
    To regard our ignorance as knowledge-<br />
    This is mental illness<br />
    Lao-Tzo

  8. Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:25 pm
    "Television is promoting a lifestyle."

    Cool! Looks like I'm joining an elite military unit and travelling to other worlds by means of a wormhole to fight evil parasitic aliens.

    'Cause that's about all I watch. ;)

    Just a little bit of info for those not familiar with the term - 'gerrymander' is the term for when political boundaries are changed to include/exclude certain ethnic, racial or cultural traits in the population that are favourable to an incumbent. Since Elections Canada does not track such traits, the practice hasn't happened in Canadian politics.

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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

  9. by Innes
    Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:41 am
    Gerrymandering was designed to create ridings in which a certain party can win based on traditional voting patterns. Elections Canada does keep track of the vote in each poll for a riding.

  10. Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:08 am
    But they do not keep track of ethnic, racial or cultural traits, the pre-requisites for gerrymandering.


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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden



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