Ottawa Open To Revising Canada Health Act, Source Says

Posted on Friday, March 26 at 08:58 by N Say
Asked whether the government would consider revising the act, the source said: "It's an option. We are saying the five principles will remain intact. Clarification is possible. Some have suggested adding a sixth principle . . . accountability.

"But others have suggested other things, too, so we're going to look at that."

Spokesmen for Martin and for Health Minister Pierre Pettigrew immediately denied the claim and said the government doesn't plan to modify or add principles to the act.

"The prime minister and minister Pettigrew are very much attached to the five principles of the Canada Health Act and have no intention of reopening it," said Pettigrew spokesman Sebastien Theberge.

"What we are committed to is a process with the provinces to look at the system and make reforms that will go beyond further funding."

A spokesman for Martin said potential reforms don't include changing or adding principles to the health act.

"(Martin) will not allow it to be tampered with because we believe the five principles offer Canadians the assurance of universal, publicly funded health care," said spokesman Mario Lague.

"Of course we believe we can make the system better by addressing issues like wait times. This is precisely why he is looking for a meeting with premiers later this year to discuss the sustainability of the health system."

In Edmonton, Klein said his officials will be phoning Martin to find out what is going on.

"If it's true, it's welcome news and certainly it's something I've been talking about for some time now," Klein said. "We need flexibility within the Canada Health Act to try new and different things that will allow us to raise revenue and deal with certain situations in a more flexible manner."

[so we need "flexibility" in the Act to "reform" the system because we need "change" & it's too bad people want to "maintain the status quo". Who ever said we only like it publicly funded? It should be publicy OPERATED also! Watch out for more P3s under the Martin government! - NSay]

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  1. by avatar Milton
    Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:33 pm
    Yes, the Liberals plan to dismantle all legislation that keeps corporations from being able to pursue profits. All public property, programs are for sale. The Conservatives plan to do the same thing. It is the knew "more with less" principle ( more profits for corporations less benefits for the common folk ).

  2. Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:01 pm
    F**k you Martin, you money w*ore!!! Just wait, you scoundrel, I'm send Myriam Bedard out to get you, and we'll use you to feed the homeless!!!

    Are the Liberals NUTS? Mentioning two-tier healthcare KILLED Stockwekk Days chances (and Belinda's) RIGHT AWAY!!! I smell an NDP victory!!!

  3. Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:14 pm
    As I said to my retired lawyer friend, we need to get rid of all current politicians, and keep only public servants (?) with 5 years or less experience on the job.

    That would root out any preconceived ideas as to how to beat the system. Nothing like a clean slate !!

    Corruption runs so deep within all 3 main political parties it will be impossible to remove it without a complete overhaul.

    Bring in the troops, and then call an election. No previous politicians need apply.

    BTW, my NDP riding candidate has to step down for health reasons, and I just wish I had a few more years experience and I would certainly jump at the chance.

    However, it's another ol' boys club, so that's that.



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    Jim Callaghan
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  4. Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:05 pm
    Just on the CBC news today, Martin is denying that he`s for altering the Canada Health Act, but of course he can`t be trusted. From what I`ve read in different forums, countries like Britain, the European Union, the USA (of course) and Canada are all looking for more global 'interchanges' in health care, as if it`s merely another wing of trade and investment. Its up to us as Canadians to stop this. Health care must NEVER be about profits before people! I wish Klein would die of liver failure or something! What a creep!

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    Dave Ruston

  5. Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:13 pm
    Jim, so you're not very optimistic about the NDP? Can you elaborate on this?

    -KY

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    Kory Yamashita

    "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

  6. Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:03 am
    Anyone else notice how Steven Harper has kept sort of quite on the health care issue. We all know ver well that he will open the door to more privatisation of our health care. But, if you've notice he doesn't say much about the health care. Someone needs to attack him in the house of commons to get the answer out of him so the media can take it and expose it.

    Kevin

  7. Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:13 am
    Kevin, I'm positive that they're waiting for the campaign to start before attacking him. The NDP is at least. And the Liberals don't want to because they're sort of sitting on the fence anyways. Once the NDP see that the election is near, they'll go all out on healthcare, education, and environmental issues. THey just dont' want to let it fade away before the election (in the case of a fall election).

    -KY

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    Kory Yamashita

    "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

  8. Sat Mar 27, 2004 6:09 am
    Trust and Politics? Trust and Politics? We obviously cannot base our
    election decision on trust as It just hasn't been working for us. What
    else is left on the shopping list for a government with our best interests
    in mind? I'm not sure myself but giving it some thought, how about
    you? Do you find it rather peculiar Martin and Klien are on the same side
    of the fence with this health care thing? This is Klien's baby, the
    privatization thing. Its true election day those guys will agree to
    anything to get in. So do you think it would help to get it in writing.
    (giggle)

  9. Sat Mar 27, 2004 6:13 am
    That didn't really work for David Orchard.

    Why not look at their track record? Some politicians try to do what they say. Other's lie. And the lies sound better than the truth, so the liars win. Why not just vote based on past evidence?

    -KY

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    Kory Yamashita

    "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

  10. by N Say
    Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:04 am
    Some people think states are inherently bad (violent, corrupt, etc) but the masses can force them to do good things. States can only get away with things when people just don't care what goes on. If there's enough pressure to change things or to not change things, states will respond, but not if people don't pay attention.

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    "So many right-wing Christians, so few lions." - t-shirt I saw @ school

  11. Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:10 am
    Me again. Okay! So you suggest you should go by their track record.
    That was my first thought but I'm a little skeptical of say track record
    sounds a bit of a lot shot in this day and age. Its the media, they can't
    help but put their own twist on it, own agendas I guess and of course
    the more clot our politicians have the more desirable they become to
    those with agendas of their own. Anymore suggestions?

    Colleen Moore

  12. Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:24 am
    Okay! this is great public pressure I like the sound of that. However I
    don't see it working in BC with Campbell. Its like he's working for
    someone else. Public pressure goes on the list along with track record.
    Anymore ideas?

    Colleen Moore

  13. Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:38 am
    Well rather than listening to the spin Colleen, look
    at what they have done, read, "On The Take" about the Mulroney years to get an idea of the conservatives, they are the same party no matter what their name is, the same people are behind the agenda, if you read that book, you'll see names that just don't go away. Then look at the Liberals, the sponsorship scandal for one, the Lockheed Martin census deal for two, now listen to Martin and Klein, both saying the same thing about the healthcare but with different words.

    Rod Love is a 'cons' adviser now, he used to work with Klein for many years. They are all connected.

    Then look at the NDP, Layton, is in communication with Mel Hurtig, he also was interested in Paul Hellyer's ideas,
    just the name change was the obstacle. If you read the NDp website you'll see they are the only ones speaking out
    against, further integration with the U.S. etc. Also, Blaikie(NDP), Layton(NDP) are the only ones really calling the liberals on issues in the House.

    I think the track records do speak louder than the media spin.

  14. by N Say
    Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:47 am
    When there's lots of pressure & there's a movement building with people in the communities doing lots of work to get a message out, a leader can appear and appear to be prominent. Like take what happened in the US during the Democratic Party thing. So many people were supporting Howard Dean & John Edwards because what they campaigned for was what lots & lots of people phoned in to tell them to campaign for. & they wouldn't have said any of the things they they said if people hadn't phoned/mailed/emailed him with things they wanted changed. We can see that here too; Jack Layton says all that stuff about home care & a clean-water program, standing up to the US, etc because he saw what a positive reaction there was to specific things in the Romanow Report & our governments position re: Iraq. (unlike the Liberals who just give ambiguous answers re: Romanow Report). But Jack Layton (or Mel Hurtig or Maude Barlow or whoever) is not the sovreignty or pro-Canada movement, it's all the people like us or stompson or whoever phoning in to party offices & saying 'I like your position on this thing but I won't vote for your party unless you change your position on this other thing'. If we don't like Campbell we should be writing to the NDP & Carole James telling her what we want.

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    "So many right-wing Christians, so few lions." - t-shirt I saw @ school



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