Many factors have contributed; I will mention only three. First, neoclassical economists have as a group deluded themselves into believing that all you need for an exact science is mathematics, and never mind about whether the symbols used refer quantitatively to the real world. What began as an indulgence became an addiction, leading to a collective fantasy of scientific achievement where in most cases none exists. To preserve their illusions, neoclassical economists have found it increasingly necessary to isolate themselves from non-believers.
Second, as Joseph Stiglitz has observed, economics has suffered “a triumph of ideology over science”.1 Instead of regarding their theory as a tool in the pursuit of knowledge, neoclassical economists have made it the required viewpoint from which, at all times and in all places, to look at all economic phenomena. This is the position of neoliberalism.
Third, today’s economies, including the societies in which they are embedded, are very different from those of the 19th century for which neoclassical economics was invented to describe. These differences become more pronounced every decade as new aspects of economic reality emerge, for example, consumer societies, corporate globalization, economic induced environmental disasters and impending ecological ones, the accelerating gap between the rich and poor, and the movement for equal-opportunity economies. Consequently neoclassical economics sheds light on an ever-smaller proportion of economic reality, leaving more and more of it in the dark for students permitted only the neoclassical viewpoint. This makes the neoclassical monopoly more outrageous and costly every year, requiring of it ever more desperate measures of defense, like eliminating economic history and history of economics from the curriculum.
But eventually reality overtakes time-warp worlds like mainstream economics and the Soviet Union. The moment and place of the tipping point, however, nearly always takes people by surprise. In June 2000, a few economics students in Paris circulated a petition calling for the reform of their economics curriculum. One doubts that any of those students in their wildest dreams anticipated the effect their initiative would have. Their petition was short, modest and restrained. Its first part, “We wish to escape from imaginary worlds”, summarizes what they were protesting against.
Most of us have chosen to study economics so as to acquire a deep understanding of the economic phenomena with which the citizens of today are confronted. But the teaching that is offered, that is to say for the most part neoclassical theory or approaches derived from it, does not generally answer this expectation. Indeed, even when the theory legitimately detaches itself from contingencies in the first instance, it rarely carries out the necessary return to the facts. The empirical side (historical facts, functioning of institutions, study of the behaviors and strategies of the agents . . .) is almost nonexistent. Furthermore, this gap in the teaching, this disregard for concrete realities, poses an enormous problem for those who would like to render themselves useful to economic and social actors.
The students asked instead for a broad spectrum of analytical viewpoints.
Too often the lectures leave no place for reflection. Out of all the approaches to economic questions that exist, generally only one is presented to us. This approach is supposed to explain everything by means of a purely axiomatic process, as if this were THE economic truth. We do not accept this dogmatism. We want a pluralism of approaches, adapted to the complexity of the objects and to the uncertainty surrounding most of the big questions in economics (unemployment, inequalities, the place of financial markets, the advantages and disadvantages of free-trade, globalization, economic development, etc.)
The Parisian students’ complaint about the narrowness of their economics education and their desire for a broadband approach to economics teaching that would enable them to connect constructively and comprehensively with the complex economic realities of their time hit a chord with French news media. Major newspapers and magazines gave extensive coverage to the students’ struggle against the “autistic science”. Economics students from all over France rushed to sign the petition. Meanwhile a growing number of French economists dared to speak out in support and even to launch a parallel petition of their own. Finally the French government stepped in. The Minister of Education set up a high level commission to investigate the students’ complaints.
News of these events in France spread quickly via the Web and email around the world. The distinction drawn by the French students between what can be called narrowband and broadband approaches to economics, and their plea for the latter, found support from large numbers of economics students and economists in many countries. In June 2001, almost exactly a year after the French students had released their petition, 27 PhD candidates at Cambridge University in the UK launched their own, titled “Opening Up Economics”. Besides reiterating the French students’ call for a broadband approach to economics teaching, the Cambridge students also champion its application to economic research.
This debate is important because in our view the status quo is harmful in at least four respects. Firstly, it is harmful to students who are taught the 'tools' of mainstream economics without learning their domain of applicability. The source and evolution of these ideas is ignored, as is the existence and status of competing theories. Secondly, it disadvantages a society that ought to be benefiting from what economists can tell us about the world. Economics is a social science with enormous potential for making a difference through its impact on policy debates. In its present form its effectiveness in this arena is limited by the uncritical application of mainstream methods. Thirdly, progress towards a deeper understanding of many important aspects of economic life is being held back. By restricting research done in economics to that based on one approach only, the development of competing research programs is seriously hampered or prevented altogether. Fourth and finally, in the current situation an economist who does not do economics in the prescribed way finds it very difficult to get recognition for her research.
In August of the same year economics students from 17 countries who had gathered in the USA in Kansas City, released their International Open Letter to all economics departments calling on them to reform economics education and research by adopting the broadband approach. Their letter includes the following seven points.
1. A broader conception of human behavior. The definition of economic man as an autonomous rational optimizer is too narrow and does not allow for the roles of other determinants such as instinct, habit formation and gender, class and other social factors in shaping the economic psychology of social agents.
2. Recognition of culture. Economic activities, like all social phenomena, are necessarily embedded in culture, which includes all kinds of social, political and moral value-systems and institutions. These profoundly shape and guide human behavior by imposing obligations, enabling and disabling particular choices, and creating social or communal identities, all of which may impact on economic behavior.
3. Consideration of history. Economic reality is dynamic rather than static – and as economists we must investigate how and why things change over time and space. Realistic economic inquiry should focus on process rather than simply on ends.
4. A new theory of knowledge. The positive-vs.-normative dichotomy which has traditionally been used in the social sciences is problematic. The fact-value distinction can be transcended by the recognition that the investigator’s values are inescapably involved in scientific inquiry and in making scientific statements, whether consciously or not. This acknowledgement enables a more sophisticated assessment of knowledge claims.
5. Empirical grounding. More effort must be made to substantiate theoretical claims with empirical evidence. The tendency to privilege theoretical tenets in the teaching of economics without reference to empirical observation cultivates doubt about the realism
of such explanations.
6. Expanded methods. Procedures such as participant observation, case studies and discourse analysis should be recognized as legitimate means of acquiring and analyzing data alongside econometrics and formal modelling. Observation of phenomena from different vantage points using various data-gathering techniques may offer new insights into phenomena and enhance our understanding of them.
7. Interdisciplinary dialogue. Economists should be aware of diverse schools of thought within economics, and should be aware of developments in other disciplines, particularly the social sciences.
In March 2003 economics students at Harvard launched their own petition, demanding from its economics department an introductory course that would have “better balance and coverage of a broader spectrum of views” and that would “not only teach students the accepted modes of thinking, but also challenge students to think critically and deeply about conventional truths.”2
Students have not been alone in mounting increasing pressure on the status quo. Thousands of economists from scores of countries have also in various forms taken up the cause for broadband economics under the banner “Post-Autistic Economics” and the slogan “sanity, humanity and science” (www.paecon.net). The PAE movement, or, if you prefer, the Broadband Economics movement, is not about trying to replace neoclassical economics with another partial truth, but rather about reopening economics for free scientific inquiry, making it a pursuit where empiricism outranks a priorism and where critical thinking rules instead of ideology.3
Against this background of accelerating momentum for radical change, 27 economists and 2 mathematicians, many of them internationally renown and representing eight countries and five continents, have come together to create this book. It aims to provide you, the student, with three things.
First, it offers you some protection against the indoctrination process to which you are likely to be subjected as an economics student. There are many things that your teachers should tell you about the brand of economics they are teaching you, but, in most cases, will not. This book will make you aware of some of the many worldly and logical gaps in neoclassical economics, and also its hidden ideological agendas, its disregard for the environment and inability to consider economic issues in an ecological context, its habitual misuse of mathematics and statistics, its inability to address the major issues of economic globalization, its ethical cynicism concerning poverty, racism and sexism, and its misrepresentation of economic history.
Second, if you are brave you may want to bring up some of the points raised in this book in your classes. It is sure to make them more interesting. It may even provoke lively discussion and, for a while at least, convert the indoctrination process into an educational one. If it does you will be doing a good thing: we live in a time when bad economics probably kills more people and causes more suffering than armaments.
Third, this book is intended to appeal to your imagination and humanity by showing you how interesting and relevant, even exciting, economics can be when it is pursued, not as the defense of an antiquated and close-minded system of belief, but as a no-holds-barred inquiry looking for real-world truths.
Notes
1. All the student petitions discussed are available at www.paecon.net.
2. Stiglitz, Joseph E. (2002) “There Is No Invisible Hand”, The Guardian, December 20, 2002.
3. For further information about the PAE, see The Crisis in Economics: The Post-Autistic Economics Movement: The first 600 days, Edward Fullbrook (editor), London: Routledge, 2003.
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Have you read "The End of Poverty" by Les Sachs, and what did you think? [Question for Ed, but anyone who's read it is welcome to reply]
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden
As far neoclassical economics are concerned, I discovered that they're a fraudulent theory when I first started reading economics seriously in 1982. It took me 3 years to kill it and one of these days perhaps I will have the time to write it down. Right now I'm building a new chicken house, then have to go back to our new corral and loading chute. Only about 10 years behind my schedule.
I set down the definition of neoclassical economics 20 odd years ago as:
"Neoclassical economics are the science for the alchemic conversion of silk purses into sows' ears"
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When you get a chance, you should read "The End of Poverty". Dr. Sachs is an old school economist, he quotes Adams quite often. He also had a big hand in bringing Post-Communist Poland back into Europe, and had chaired many committes for the UN on Economics, including The Millenium Statement.
He describes how, through minimal help, the West can give the poorest of the poor the ability to got out of downward sprialing poverty, and let them succeed on their own. He's also responsible for the figure "0.7% of GDP".
Once you get those chickens back where they belong, it's worth your time.
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"I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden
The problem is that, while in the past their silly theories could only destroy relatively small societies and areas, now they have the power to destroy Earth and they're busy working on it with their silly, meaningless mathematics.
We also have to remember the both Harper and Emerson are neoclassically brainwashed economists and if Harper ever gets majority, it is goodbye Canada.
I'm enclosing my latest column I wrote last week for the Gold River Record, before I received the above article. It is mainly about the effects of the neoclassical theory
on the real world.
Sorry about the length of this posting.
Cheers, Ed.
Fiat lux # 171 Aug. 5, 2006.
There's an old saying, proverb and even wisdom in that “Competition improves the breed”.
Provided we're willing to pay the skyrocketing costs of that improved breed. Of course, now we have better racehorses, faster athletes, faster racing cars than we had years ago, but we're also paying the vastly increased prices for relatively small improvements in performance. Industrial production works on the laws of speed and as Isaac Newton figured it out 300 years ago, even minute increases in speed demand great inputs of energy. This simple fact is completely lost on our miseducated economists and braindead politicians. For example, to double the speed of certain objects, like boats, requires the squaring of energy inputs. The real costs of performance are always physical and can not be measured in monetary terms. This simple fact is lost on our economists, who can not comprehend that the real costs of increased energy and resource inputs may have to be paid 50 or 100 years down the line. As we're paying now for the “cheap goods” of generations ago in the forms of illness, global warming, pollution and depletion. We're not too bad off here in BC, yet, but my old European friends are almost all dead, on account of the invisible killer pollution landing on their heads.
The purpose of economic competition is supposed to be the lowering of costs and improving products.
Has anybody seen lower costs lately? The vast majority of people have no idea what the prices of certain products are, unless we're talking about major items like houses and vehicles, but even there they just accept them without a question. E.g. the price of vehicles about doubled in the first 30 years after World War 2, but went up about ten times in the following 30, if we consider only the buying prices. But when we add the incredible high repair costs, the real costs may have gone up 20 times. There were the times when people could do many maintenance jobs on their cars , but now even the simplest repairs need the services of skilled mechanics at 60 or 70 bucks an hour. So, where are the lower costs anywhere, especially in our supermarkets, where the “free trade” prices are jacked up every day.
When it comes to equipment and appliances, especially of the electronic kind, the store prices may have gone down, but the repair shops have also disappeared, which puts huge costs increases on the ecology in the forms of depletion, pollution and waste, but according to our economic masterminds it is OK, because waste increases the GDP, which means “wealth creation”. Of course, there's no such thing as wealth creation, but this long standing and unbreakable physical law would put unbearable stress on their warped minds, so we just carry on merrily on the road of destruction, while calling it “booming economies”.
According to our universities, all this has been justified by Adam Smith 200 years ago, when he allegedly said that : “In competition individual ambition serves the common good”. This is repeated constantly by neoclassical economists and their political followers, claiming that the “invisible hand” and “ self interest” theories of Adam Smith excuse everything, and their idea of “competitive equilibrium” will ultimately bring Nirvana and wealth to the whole world. Iif they can just wipe out any opposition by crazy environmentalists and commie, pinko leftie socialists who are trying to wreck their glorious plans of global wealth creation.
The problem is that Adam Smith never said anything that stupid and criminal. His self interest and invisible hand theories appears in the same short paragraph and here's what he really wrote in his way outdated book, now referred to as the “Wealth of Nations”:
“But the revenue of every society is always precisely equal to the exchangeable value of the whole annual produce of its industry, or rather is precisely the same thing with that exchangeable value. As every individual, therefore, endeavours as much as he can both to employ his capital in the support of domestick industry, and so direct that industry that its produce may be of the greatest value; every individual necessarily labours to render the annual revenue of the society as great as he can. He generally, indeed, neither intends to promote the the publick interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it. By preferring the support of domestick to that of foreign industry, he intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was no part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually, than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the publick good. It is an affectation, indeed, not very common among merchants and very few words need to be employed in dissuading them from it,”
Of course, Smith wrote these words long before we knew many of now commonly accepted physical laws, a whole generation before the laissez faire economic horrors Dickensian England, but even then, it defies elementary logic how his words could be twisted into the benefits of the “competitive equilibrium of the global marketplace”, the justification of colonization under the guise of globalization and especially the nonsense of “In competition individual ambition serves the common good”.
Since the beginning of times all ideologies have been based on simplistic ideas, leaps of faith and , as in our present economic system, on the false values forced on the world with the power of freshly created imaginary capital. We have thousands of years of historical precedents, proving that such harebrained schemes always fail, yet, every generation of our gullible humanity tries and tries and fails and fails again and again. Shall we ever see the day when economists and politicians may finally come to grips with 2 + 2 = 4 ?
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Only yesterday i had a two hour "lesson, and appriciative of it too, on the following)<br />
I kinda cherry picked the 26 pag doc to spark interest here <br />
Thanks Dio<br />
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<a href="http://www.bcca.coop/pdfs/BolognaandEmilia.pdf">http://www.bcca.coop/pdfs/BolognaandEmilia.pdf</a><br />
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The Emilian Model<br />
The main feature of the region is its diverse entrepreneurial structure and its system for<br />
supporting cooperative relations among its small firms in order to create value-added products,<br />
linking many producers, creating local production systems, that secure global markets. More<br />
frequently than not, this involves linking many quality producers together. The beauty of all this is<br />
that the history of artisanship and quality is maintained, as is the pluralistic ownership. Cooperative<br />
and other links allow for a more complex value-added product in the end. As a result everyone<br />
wins, and the results are achieved without creating a single enormous corporation, pluralism is<br />
maintained, as is diverse ownership.<br />
What they have created in Emilia Romagna is a diversified “cluster” model unlike the<br />
Spanish Mondragon model, which is highly centralized. Small firms operating in cooperative<br />
networks are the key to the Emilian Commercial economy.<br />
6. Cooperatives in the Region<br />
This region with so many small firms also has Italy’s greatest concentration of cooperatives<br />
some eight thousand, making it the highest concentration of cooperatives in Italy. The dominant coop<br />
organization is Emilia Romagna is the Lega, which is the leftist oriented, and largest cooperative<br />
group in the country.<br />
Social cooperatives however originated in the Piedmont to the northwest and were quickly<br />
adopted in Emilia Romagna. Legislation for social coops was as recent as 1991. The purpose of<br />
these organizations is to “pursue the general community interest in promoting human concerns and<br />
the social integration of citizens. Social coops are engaged in the management and delivering of<br />
social, health, and educational services, known as Type B or social service cooperatives while Type<br />
A coops work toward the generation of gainful employment for the disabled and marginalized in<br />
society. The Type A coops serve the disabled, the elderly, youth, and marginalized. Many of these<br />
coops are multi stakeholder’s models including employees, volunteers, and user members. To a<br />
great extend these social coops are developed jointly with local government. There are significant<br />
regulatory and tax benefits for these cooperatives.<br />
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10. The CNA<br />
Confederazione dell’ Artigianato e della Piccola Impresa (National Confederation of<br />
Artisans and Small Firms).<br />
The CNA is a post-second world war phenomenon, formed in 1946, and this sector like the<br />
cooperatives were recognized as a significant part of Italian society recognized in the nations new<br />
constitution. Artisan firms are those with less than 18 employees where the owner works directly<br />
inside the firm.<br />
In Emilia Romagna there are 125,000 artisans of whom 45% are in manufacturing. The<br />
CAN provides and brokers services for these many players. Services include financial and legal,<br />
accounting, payroll, and employee benefits. They also provide marketing advice and facilitate<br />
export through consortia where they are often an investor and partner, as well as the services noted<br />
earlier.<br />
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Stefano argues we must create a new consensus and that “the new challenges cannot be met<br />
without a robust and viable cooperative sector leading the civil economy”.<br />
This means to him that the principles of reciprocity must be applied, which means not only<br />
as a medium of mutual self-interest, but with “gratitude, consideration, empathy, liking, fairness and<br />
a sense of community. which are intrinsically valuable and valued by all”. For, as Stefano says,<br />
“the good society is made of good acts”. Don’t we all inherently know this from our own<br />
experience?<br />
In turn Zamagni quotes Peter Drucker, who said,<br />
“Above all we are learning very fast that the belief that the free market is all it takes to have<br />
a functioning society – or even a functioning economy – is pure delusion. Unless there’s<br />
first a functioning civil society, the market can produce economic results for a very short<br />
time…” (Relentless Contrarian, Ottawa Citizen 31 Dec 1996 pg A 11)<br />
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“I believe as things stand today, transactions of full reciprocity certainly do not prevail.<br />
That is to say, there is no relationship of sharing between the state and the third sector. The<br />
prevalent relationship is based on authority.”<br />
“I believe that the third sector today is treated in a way that tends to transform it essentially<br />
into a bureaucracy. That is, the State turns the third sector into an agent… of itself.”<br />
Abraham Irizarry:<br />
(Delaney Street)<br />
“So please step aside and let us take charge, let us teach our people how to work and have<br />
some dignity by earning their way in life so that they don’t have to be on welfare and have what<br />
most citizens in the world want. An opportunity to work and provide for themselves and their<br />
families, so that they can be prideful and have some dignity.”<br />
“When you look at this community here and at the people who needed a variety of services<br />
and were just running around like crazy people, causing the taxpayer money and family problems,<br />
with no dignity, no responsibility, no direction, when you walk through the facility here, what you<br />
see is a sense of pride.”<br />
“I believe that I saw in each of the individuals who were touring us, is that they were in<br />
charge of their lives; they were actually earning their way back into society. They were being<br />
productive because they had an opportunity to work and make a living, and making this happen<br />
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“Societies where private interest reigns and prevails, where none of their members is<br />
touched by the love of public good, not only cannot reach wealth and power, but also, if they have<br />
already reached them, are unable to maintain this position.”<br />
All this before Adam Smith!<br />
Returning however, to Emilia Romagna – how can one not be impressed?<br />
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It would seem reasonable to conclude with a final quote from Stefano Zamagni:<br />
25<br />
“Political economy was essentially seen as the science of happiness. It was only with the<br />
marginalistic revolution of the second half of the nineteenth century that the category of<br />
utility completely superceded that of happiness. Since then, economics has managed to be<br />
referred to as the dismal science.”<br />
Elsewhere, maybe. But not in Emilia Romagna!<br />
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Acknowledgements<br />
The writer is indebted to the Canadian Cooperative Association/BC Division and their Regional<br />
Manager, John Restakis for access to their library and for the continuing guidance on study<br />
tours in the region.<br />
Note:<br />
The writer would note the first for credit study tour – of the region sponsored by VanCity Capital,<br />
the B.C. Division of the Canadian Cooperative Association and the University of Bologna takes<br />
place June 17 – July 19, 2002. Supporting universities included the University of Victoria, BC<br />
Institute for Cooperative Studies, Simon Fraser University, Community Economic Development<br />
Centre, University of Saskatchewan, Centre for Cooperative Studies and the University College of<br />
Cape Breton – Tomkins Institute. A similar course will be given in Bologna next year.<br />
<p>---<br>We have met the enemy and he is us<br />
Pogo<br />
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.<br />
Plutarch
The book comes highly recomended by a friend, Gerry Brown.
Gerry shares your interests in art and history Ed
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We have met the enemy and he is us
Pogo
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
Plutarch
you might as well ask what is wrong with voodoo, because that's all economics is.
It's just another explanation excusing and condoning the "gimmee that, it's MINE!!" attitudes of the rich and powerful, and the corporations they own.
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"and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"
"The Weapon" - Rush
Thanks also to Diogenes for the Emilia Romagna posting. This is a very important functioning alternative to the corporate state, so when the apologists rant we can point to this alternative.
I wuz just tryin' ta help
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We have met the enemy and he is us
Pogo
A mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
Plutarch