Fatal Error Heightens Tensions

Posted on Monday, July 25 at 15:05 by jensonj
The fatal mistake has increased tensions in a city that saw 52 commuters killed by four British suicide bombers July 7, and a botched attempt to copy those bombings last Thursday by four men now the subject of a citywide manhunt. Police yesterday announced a second arrest under the Terrorism Act in south London's Brixton neighbourhood where the shooting of Menezes occurred. The Sun reported yesterday that a man arrested Friday was suspected of having left a bomb inside a backpack on a bus last Thursday. The bombs left on three trains and a bus last week malfunctioned. It's believed that only the detonators exploded. Police described Menezes' shooting as "tragic" and offered "regrets." The news sent shock waves through the city's Muslim and visible minority communities, who fear police are now taking a "shoot first, ask questions later" attitude. "This is very frightening. People will be afraid to walk the streets, or ride buses or carry anything in their hands," said Azzam Tamimi, head of the Muslim Association of Britain. Especially disturbing is that Menezes' skin colour — eyewitnesses had initially described him as Asian-looking — appears to be one of the factors that turned him into a terror suspect for police, Tamimi added. Brazilian news media reported Menezes was an electrician who had been living legally and working in England for three years. "He spoke English very well, and had permission to study and work there," Menezes' cousin Maria Alves told the O Globo Online website from her home in Sao Paulo. The Brazilian foreign ministry said it was "shocked and perplexed" by the police shooting of Menezes and said it would demand an explanation. Police said the man was followed because he "emerged from a house" that was under surveillance as part of the investigation into last week's bombing attempts, which injured one person. He was followed by officers to the Stockwell underground station and "his clothing and behaviour added to their suspicions," police said in a statement yesterday. Witnesses described the man as wearing a jacket too thick for the warm weather. None of the witnesses cited in media reports say they heard the plainclothes officers identify themselves as police before jumping Menezes. On Friday, Metropolitan Police chief Ian Blair told reporters "the man was challenged and refused to obey police instructions." Blair had also said that the shooting was "directly linked" to the anti-terrorist operation. On Friday, London Mayor Ken Livingstone said traditionally unarmed British police were following a "shoot-to-kill policy" when faced with someone they thought might be a suicide bomber. John O'Connor, a former commander at the Metropolitan Police, described the shooting error as "disastrous." "This couldn't have come at a worse time. It's very tempting to go down the path and think, `My God these guys are so trigger-happy.'" O'Connor said the way Menezes was killed made him believe the people giving chase were members of the military's special forces rather than police. If that's the case, the men will never be identified or punished, he added. Inayat Bunglawala, a spokesperson for the Muslim Council of Britain, said police must immediately explain why they believed an unarmed man on the ground posed a threat. "The eyewitness reports we had was that this man was tackled to the ground, and the police jumped on top of him. That doesn't sound like it was absolutely necessary to shoot him dead. It sounds like they already had him overpowered," he said in an interview. Bunglawala said the Muslim community accepts that police are under great pressure to prevent further bomb attacks. He then demonstrated how a local incident is filtered through Muslim perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, making the anger felt by some in the community all the greater. "There really is a fear within the Muslim community that these are Israeli-style tactics now being employed on the streets of London," he said. "Shooting innocent people dead is one Israeli tactic we can do without." He said his council received several reports of "young Muslim men going about their everyday business suddenly being forced to the ground by plainclothes officers. And they're now very fearful." http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1122155414228&call_pageid=968332188492 [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on July 25, 2005]

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  1. by avatar Milton
    Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:54 pm
    An eye witness said thet two policemen pushed him down and held him down and and a third policeman unloaded 5 shots into him. The witness said nothing about him being shot in the head. The importance of the presstitute reports of him being shot in the head is that you wouldn't shoot a suicide bomber in his torso because you might hit the bomb. So if he was not shot 5 times in the head, he was not suspected of being a suicide bomber and this was another murder.
    I hear that President Bush awarded a medal to the cop that shot this unarmed man 5 times while two cops held him down.

  2. Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:22 am
    The police shooting somebody in error is tragic and in many cases inexcusable. But shooting somebody in the head from close range 5 times is outright crime. The shooter was either mentally imbalanced, or hyped up, or just another criminal who wanted to kill somebody for any reason.

    So the investigation should concentrate on the number of shots, because that's where the problem lies and there's no excuse.......even if the cops who perpetrated this crime were Mossad trained, as some reports claim.

    On the other hand, Brazilian outrage is also out of line, as their cops are shooting literally thousands every year, without any consequences. Ed Deak, Big Lake. BC.

  3. Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:12 am
    Since I wrote the previous, I watched the news on BCTV, which is a Global controlled station, where it was claimed that the victim was shot 8 times, 7 times in the head, while he was being held down by others. Anybody who does anything like that is a berserk maniac, who should be put away for good. Ed.

  4. Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:21 am
    We all agree that this person's death solved nothing but did more damage to the British Administration and Response Units and gave ammunition to the enemy then anything else more recently.

    The problem is - What do they do to correct it from happening again or to lesson the opportunity of it happening again?


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  5. Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:50 am
    This was a cold blooded murder pure and simple. For the British government to say "it is regrettable" is absolutely disgusting. If it happens again then minorities should respond in kind and attack the police to defend themselves. Already the police commissioner is saying it may happen again. Are these people criminally insane. You don't kill people without proof just because you think they maybe a suicide bomber. You should have the proof already before you make a decision. If it is open season on innocent people in Britain then it should be open season on the police.

  6. Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:14 am
    Every country is hypocritical, Brazil has as much right as anybody else to complain. If Canada complained of a canadian being shot, people wouldn't say 'but look how you treat natives'. There's no doubt Brazil has huge problems, that doesn't mean they can't say anything when a citizen is executed.

    This is a horrible thing, hopefully some good will come out of it and the brits will realize that they don't especially want to live in a warden state with execution squads. It's one thing when you terrorize India or the middle east or someplace far away, but it's no longer their empire and this is a high cost to pay for aligning themselves with the fickle americans. We can only hope...

  7. Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:00 pm
    On another page, I defended the cop (not apologizing, but understanding) based on the circumstances. Now, after watching things unfold, I'm not so sure. Especially if all shots were not to the head--blows the excuse that the multiple head shots (and not to the body) were to take out any chance of detonation of the explosives they believed him to be carrying.

    Just be glad the guy turned out to be innocent, I'd hate to see where policy went if they actually managed to get a terrorist doing this.

  8. Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:00 pm
    More fascism. That`s what we need to stop dem terrorist killers, George!

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    Dave Ruston

  9. Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:19 pm
    And unfortunately that is allmthere is to rely on STORIES!<br />
    not fact, Stories!<br />
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    EG, The was followd , accordining to one STOREY for approx 18 minutes, a good deal of that while he was on a bus!<br />
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    STORIES?<br />
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    <br />
    couple the STORIES with this little gem.<br />
    <a href="http://www.thisisnotthat.com/gs/inf_test.html">http://www.thisisnotthat.com/gs/inf_test.html</a><br />
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    "Pretty easy? Did you notice how you projected information into this simple story which wasn't stated as 'fact'? In every encounter or situation we face, we bring our past experiences to it in the form of unstated, usually unconscious assumptions and premises. We draw inferences based on these assumptions about the situation as if they were fact. Many times we cause problems for ourselves and others when we confuse our inferences with the 'facts', and when we don't recognize our projections as projections."<br />
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    It also has been my observation upon presenting the above test to online forums that a 100% possative test score had been acheived!<br />
    the point is most of us will not admit to ever beeing wrong.<br />
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    The word 'terrorist' has now come to mean Islamic fanatic<br />
    and so another brilliant meme (mind vivrus) takes over and becomes *reality* <br />
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    Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boy. <br />
    -Parliament of Whores

  10. Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:19 am
    This is just a clear sign, that the "Authorities" consider us all potential terrorists now. Don't ever forget it either.
    Just wait until we get our, millitary industrail complex sponsored bombing. Then we too will get to have Cameras everywhere, for our own safety from each other, just like Londan and North Korea....

  11. Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:42 pm
    Yep! They`re already putting up the cameras. Downtown Hamilton has em, and some intersections throughout the Niagara region has em 'for our safety, you know.'

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    Dave Ruston

  12. Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:48 am
    If they thought this man was a suicide bomber. Wouldn't it be strange that witnesses said he looked quite scared. If he was intending on dying that day anyway, why would he be frightened for his life? Wouldn't that be enough to give them pause before killing him?

    Another interesting thing floating around.... he was an electrician and my husband read somewhere that someone is trying to find out what company he worked for and what his last few jobs were and where. I'm still trying to find where he read this.

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    These days, if you are not confused, you are not thinking clearly. Mrs. Irene Peters



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