But Harper's basic game plan is essentially the same as Manning's: splinter the country to grab control of it. Therefore he is even more self-serving and destructive than Manning was. It's inconceivable that a prime minister would be setting Canada's two largest provinces against one another -- unless he saw it as a political step up toward a majority government ... voted in by a frightened, confused population. Amongst less thoughtful people, this would be the basis for civil war.
Ruthless? There's the $$$ thing, where Ontario contributes $30 billion more in equalization payments than it gets back in benefits. There's the issue of cities being pauperized so that essential infrastructure is falling into disrepair, and social services aren't meeting people's needs.
But for sheer ruthless political manipulation, there's nothing so crude as Harper making Ontario's premier wait 3 months for an appointment ... then allowing him only a few furtive moments (photos refused) ... before rushing to Quebec to rejoice for a whole week with Jean Charest (former leader of the 2-person Conservative Party who is now the Liberal premier of Quebec).
Chantal Hebert calls him "a remarkable tactician" in the following story. Myself, I fear that Harper is a scheming, dangerous manipulator, just like Preston Manning was, and for the same old Reform Party reasons ... only worse. This guy is shameless. Or how could he have used our Canadian soldiers, sent without debate or vote into the Afghanistan death traps, used them as a stage setting for his alliance with the most hated regime in the world?
I hope that George W. Bush's downward spiral hits the ground very soon ... and that Stephen Harper's nasty little dreams go down with him.
- BC Mary.
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Harper on a roll in Quebec
Attracting more mainstream candidates in province could mellow Conservative party's hard-right edges
May 8, 2006. Toronto Star.
CHANTAL HÉBERT
It has to be a new era in Canada when the Prime Minister and the federalist premier of Quebec actually look happy to be together in the same room while the premier of Ontario cannot even get a photo op out of a get-acquainted session with his new federal counterpart.
In stark contrast with the furtive atmosphere that presided over Stephen Harper's first meeting with Dalton McGuinty in a Toronto hotel last Thursday, the mood in the Salon Rouge of the National Assembly was positively ebullient the next day at the signing of the first Canada-Quebec agreement of the Conservative mandate.
The deal, designed to fulfill Harper's election promise to give Quebec a formal role at UNESCO, was heralded as an occasion to turn the page on the tensions that marred the relationship between the two federalist governments in the recent Liberal era.
The irony is that the agreement is one that Paul Martin could just as easily have signed.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1146865813638&call_pageid=968256290204&col=968350116795
[Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on May 9, 2006]
Note: http://www.thestar.com/...

especialy the part about mackay, orchard et al
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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.... : Albert Einstein
That's pretty specious saying that Reform wanted to get involved in american wars. The biggest war effort of the mid 90's was Yugoslavia, which the liberals put canada into even though they had a majority. It was completely their decision and had nothing to do with reform.
Reform was a western movement and clearly stated their intentions on Quebec, since they didn't run candidates there.
As for Ontario, Harper is not playing off one against another. Like any national party Harper wants all the ridings he can get-that's politics. As for softwood lumber, there is no way of knowing how reform would have acted. As free marketers obviously they want the most open market, the reality is that a lot of people have made a lot of money from trade with the states. It's a case where you have to do what the bigger guy says if you want access to his markets.
Regarding Harper being destructive, maybe, but the Liberals strategy of failing to guarantee French living space did not work.
Manning is actually, like Mulroney, not big in Harper's books. The reasons the parties were merged was business wanted an alternative to the Liberals--this in the real world was a good and practical thing, though I agree that Orchard had a point he didn't have the clout and Harper outmanauvered him. All politicians do this kind of stuff if they are successful.
Harper is not a bad guy for trying to win, he simply is being pulled in many directions and actualyl does believe in limited government, for better or worse. He jsut dissed Ontario because they didn't vote for him.
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Multiculturalism is neither left nor right, but rather a sickening indication of what happens when 'representative government' fails the majority.
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Multiculturalism is neither left nor right, but rather a sickening indication of what happens when 'representative government' fails the majority.
Did you see The National last evening? Or CTV's Mike Duffy? Or CBC
Newsworld's Don Newman? Many people are distressed that Harper
("as cold-blooded as a snake" said an e.mail to me) is trying to play off
one province (in which the fool already has 60 seats and could lose
them) against another (in hopes of getting a few more seats).
The issue -- thus far -- is self-explanatory. If we can see that the
leader of a proud nation is willing to run the risk of civil unrest for the
purpose of re-election ... that's an outrageous abuse of raw power.
Canadians shouldn't shrink from acknowledging that. Thinking about
that. And voting accordingly.
When was the last time a sitting prime minister electioneered for "the
next premier" of a province (with TV cameras rolling), having just
snubbed their elected premier? Never. It's lousy statesmanship:
oxymoronic, something Stockwell Day might do.
"Perception is everything in politics," they say. Harper forbidding photos
of the Ontario premier's brief closed-door meeting is certainly one
perception. The lavish red plush and gold backdrop for the lengthy,
filmed smarming of the Quebec premier's ceremony was certainly
intended as perception, too. I'm not making this up. It happened. It was
carefully planned. Doesn't that tell you something?
Headlines from 2 recent Vive stories:
Notice how Tory blames McGuinty for blaming Harper. The name-
blame-game! 4Canada
May 5, 2006. 05:36 AM
IAN URQUHART
After meeting Premier Dalton McGuinty for barely 45 minutes last
evening, Prime Minister Stephen Harper stepped from his hotel room in
downtown Toronto to the adjacent convention centre to attend a
provincial Conservative fundraising dinner.
At the $750-a-plate dinner, he introduced the main speaker, Ontario
Conservative Leader John Tory, the man who will try to unseat McGuinty
in next year's provincial election.
Harper called Tory "the next premier of Ontario" and declared: "Ontario
needs John Tory because a strong Canada needs a strong Ontario and
because John Tory is a nation builder."
Queen's Park veterans cannot recall a previous prime minister attending
such a partisan provincial event, least not having a speaking role in it.
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Prime Minister Harper and Premier Charest sign historic agreement
establishing a formal role for Québec in UNESCO
May 5, 2006
Ottawa, Ontario
During a ceremony today in the Quebec National Assembly’s Red Room,
Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Quebec Premier Jean Charest signed
an agreement establishing a formal role for Quebec in the United
Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization.
“Today we welcome Quebec into the UNESCO family, as we promised we
would on December 19 of last year,” stated Prime Minister Harper. “With
our signatures at the bottom of this agreement, Quebec can now
participate fully in all of UNESCO’s activities, together with and through
Canada’s Permanent Delegation.
"This agreement is a clear illustration of our vision of open federalism.
We are at the dawn of a new era, an era that will see us build a strong,
united, free and independent Canada in which a confident, autonomous,
proud and unified Quebec can develop its full potential.”
I am shocked on the one hand, although after Liberal corruption I don't think it will cause civil unrest as few people care....most are so cynical this might be expected....the Liberals started to ruin Canada and the Conservatives under Mulroney just made it worse....
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Multiculturalism is neither left nor right, but rather a sickening indication of what happens when 'representative government' fails the majority.
Regarding the article, did Harper just use the word "autonomoous Quebec"???! He looks to be continuing Martin's "asymmetrical federalism" but just making it even more "open".
Also, who the F*** in Quebec cares if they are part of UNESCO or not??? Good grief. Most people don't even know what UNESCO stands for.
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Multiculturalism is neither left nor right, but rather a sickening indication of what happens when 'representative government' fails the majority.
Perception is everything.
So Harpo lets one guy wait 3 months for a 45-minute first visit in a
darkened room ...
Then Harpo spends a week schmoozing another guy in red and gold
rooms until journalists begin smirking about a same-sex marriage ...
Perception was everything.
Also Harpo did say this: that a new guy of his choosing would replace
the democratically-elected premier of Ontario. Nobody could remember
such a ham-fisted intrusion into provincial politics ever happening
before.