Canada Worried UN Trawling Ban Could Cost $500 Million Domestic Industry

Posted on Saturday, December 31 at 10:30 by Anonymous
Greenpeace International and a coalition of 50 other environmental groups have been pushing the United Nations to endorse a ban in international waters. While a UN resolution is not binding, it puts pressure on members to comply. Last year Canada teamed with Denmark, Iceland, Norway and Portugal to sponsor an alternative resolution that avoided a ban, instead expressing concern about damage to marine environments. At the time, Canadian ports were closed to vessels from Denmark, Iceland and the Faroe Islands, a self-governing region of Denmark. Canadian officials accused the Faroe Islands of an illegal shrimp fishery on the Grand Banks - just outside of Canada's 200-nautical-mile jurisdiction. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2005/12/29/pf-1372516.html [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on December 31, 2005]

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  1. Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:20 am
    >>Canada is teaming up with some of its traditional high seas foes to fight efforts for an international ban on the controversial practice of dragging the ocean bottom for fish.<<

    This is the wrong side for the Canadian Government to be stepping up to the plate on.

    Canadians know this is a destructive practice. This is a corporate elite backed decision on destructive fishing practices that shows that the size of ones corporate profit margin justifies the practices that in the end will harm all of us in this world.

    Very un-sound environmental attitude that makes one wonder if Canada really does supports environmentally sound practices as the Americans say we do not!

  2. Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:00 am
    Well Canada, if the UN says that you have to do it there it is, you have no choice in the matter. If you defy the UN then you are a “unilateralist rogue state”!

    I am actually starting to think Canadians are full of shit on this whole environmental thing. The Kyoto fiasco where you are now pumping out 44% more green house gasses then you pledged to be, the seal clubbing which has brought international disgust and condemnation and now this? Could it be that you are a bunch of hypocrites?

  3. Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:20 pm
    Like any of you have a clue what you are talking about.I guess living in Alberta you pirates of the Bow River know all about fish and foul eh? I've lived in St John's and know many of the individuals who actually board vessels on enforcement missions inside and outside the territorial limits of our fishery on the East Coast. 2 Years ago a foreign vessel was caught 'bottom dragging' a net that was less than 1/2 the regulation hole size for the nets - the cowards cut the lined and steamed off into the sunset. Canada has tried repeatedly to get other member nations of NAFO to participate and no, they are'nt trying to allow domestic trawlers to bottom drag, they are more concerned with increased and consistent monitoring of the fishery sites, as well as some legislation with teeth so all abide by the rules. I suggest you do some research into american, or even worse, british fishery practices before you go off on the Canadian environmental agenda.

  4. Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:20 pm
    Canada's huge fishing industry is responsible for the annhilation/extinction of more species of fish/fowl/wildlife than any other country known to mankind throughout history. Why do you think Greenpeace practically LIVES amongst the Canyucks full time...forests...wildliefe..and the aquatic ecosystems are the worst...seals...pacific sockeye...cod...clear cutting forests...caribou herds depeleted by over 90% in the last ten years in the province of Albertistan alone...the DFO in connection with very rich, powerful, and influential Canadian fishing organizations runs roughshod over the aquatic ecosystems in Atlantic Canada...and wants to expand their treacherous destructive practices on a global scale. NAFO, the Canadian Association of Prawn Producers, the Groundfish Enterprise Allocation Council, the Fisheries Council of Canada, the BC Seafood Alliance, the Northern Coalition, The Canadian government's Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade (and DFO as well), are all responsible for continually pushing the envelope with international environmental groups and continually fight marine biologists and governments the world over (as they also fight the U.N.) to EXPAND catch limits of all species, even endangered ones...and they continually lobby to keep any species they can make money off from from being listed as "endangered" to keep their bank accounts fatttened nicely...kinda like the seals...money first...even skinned alive in front of their mothers the poor things :( . There are so many licenses to go around...and most license holders are members of one of the organizations named above and pay memberhsip fees/dues...for the sole purpose of having their best ECONOMIC interests represented before the world's trade bodies, and environmental organizations...ecology be damned...marine ecosystems be damned...it's all for the Canadian love of money. I've even heard rumour that the Canadian fishing industry/lobby is rife with organized crime the take is so fat...skiming going on all over. Fat Cats making money off the backs of the fisherman themselves...who pays? The fish...the crustaceans..the entire marine ecosystems...that which is not the "SOLE" (pun intended) property of corrupt Canada. Think about it. Why can a person still go into a supermarket in Canada's capital city (Ottawa) right by Parliament..and purchase as much Pacific Sockeye Salmon and Atlantic Cod as he/she has money for or enough trucks to haul away...see it everyday. And Canada's MP's of ALL political persuasions/stripes prance up and down the isles of these same supermarkets day in, and day out...not a care in the world that Canada is OFFICIALLY destroying the planet we ALL live on. It belongs to ALL the inhabitants of the world, not just Canadians (eh). Why has your greenhouse gas emissions skyrocketed...but gee...sure *sounds cool* doesn't it? To say your a member of the "Kyoto Accordian"? Hincely done with the clearcutting....the strip mining...the oil exploration...the near anhilation og the Western Caribou (while you whine about those "evil Americans in Alaska drilling for their OWN oil so as to diminish their dependence upon yours (money, money, money "eh"). Yes, we know. All to much. The Canadian national mouth is constantly flapping, but there is never any substance there when it comes to the environment, is there. Kind of like that "polite/tolerant" thing you always go on and on about. Funny. You never actually hear anyone say that about Canada except Canadians. How typical. Eh.

  5. Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:09 pm
    Here's a related story just released today continuing on with the theme of the U.N. and non-Canadians trying to save the world's aquatic ecosystems...<br />
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    <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060104.wxcaviar04/BNStory/International/">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060104.wxcaviar04/BNStory/International/</a><br />
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    QUOTING FROM SAME...<br />
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    "UN bans global trade in caviar"<br />
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    By OLIVER MOORE <br />
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    Wednesday, January 4, 2006 Posted at 4:53 AM EST<br />
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    From Wednesday's Globe and Mail<br />
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    The global trade in legal caviar has been stopped by the United Nations, leaving gourmands gasping and conservationists cheering.<br />
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    * "It's not good news. . . . I have clients who don't care about the price, they need legal caviar," said Mark Omidi, owner of the Toronto-based importer Caviar Centre. "It's the most prestigious commodity."<br />
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    * "Under the convention, caviar-importing nations must ensure imports are from legal sources, and they must police domestic processing and repackaging plants.<br />
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    The cost of beluga, the finest caviar, was expected to double in Canada this year to more than $200 for 30 grams, insiders said. Yesterday's clampdown on exports could lead to soaring prices of existing stock, in the rare places it is available after the holiday rush.<br />
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    The news was a shock to Piers Grimsditch, assistant manager of Pusateri's Fine Foods in Toronto. He said it was "a big loss" after the store's inability to get wild caviar for Christmas shoppers forced it to rely on farmed product from France.<br />
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    "We've been promised it and promised it. Finally we had to get the French," Mr. Grimsditch said. "It's a nice caviar, but there is a difference. . . We're so used to having our beluga, our sevruga, our osetra."<br />
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    * "The UN agency said yesterday that years of lowered quotas had not taken into account illegal fishing."<br />
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    Dee doop, dee doop, dee doop, dee doop...(eh)...<br />
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  6. Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:18 pm
    Here's more on Canadian decimation of the world's aquatic ecosystems and it's victimixed inhabitants who have been all but exterminated for Canadian financial gain...<br />
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    <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2006/01/04/fish-deepsea060104.html">http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2006/01/04/fish-deepsea060104.html</a><br />
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    And a sample quote or two from same...<br />
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    "Deep-sea fish in Atlantic at brink of extinction: study<br />
    Last Updated Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:57:45 EST <br />
    CBC News<br />
    Overfishing has driven several species of deep-water fish in the Atlantic to the brink of extinction in a single generation, Canadian biologists have found. <br />
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    Populations have plummeted so rapidly that two commercially fished species, the roundnose grenadier and onion-eye grenadier, and three other species, should be classified as critically endangered – a higher rating than for the giant panda and Bengal tiger. <br />
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    Between 1978 and 1984, catch data from research trawl surveys showed the relative abundance of the five species declined between 87 per cent and 98 per cent in Canadian waters, the researchers found.<br />
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    "They meet the IUCN [World Conservation Union] criteria for being critically endangered," Jennifer Devine of Memorial University in St. John's, N. L., and her colleagues wrote in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature. "<br />
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    Furthermore...<br />
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    "Time running out to save fish<br />
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    After the collapse of easy-to-catch species such as cod and tuna in the 1960s and 1970s, trawlers turned to the deep-sea grenadiers.<br />
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    The roundnose and onion-eye grenadiers declined 99.6 and 93.3 per cent respectively over the 26-year survey. <br />
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    Despite growing evidence of collapses, fish are caught between financial, political and environmental interests, said the study's lead author, Richard Haedrich of Memorial. <br />
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    "The real concern is that you alter these productive fishery ecosystems to such an extent that they no longer produce what you're interested in."<br />
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    And so forth...<br />
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    The species, which also include the blue hake, spiny eel, and spinttail skate, live on or near the bottom of the North Atlantic Ocean, on the continental slope, a downward ridge between the coastal shelf and the extreme ocean. <br />
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    The three other species were "bycatch" scooped up in the hunt for Greenland halibut and redfish. The declines occurred in about one generation, the data suggest.<br />
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    yeah, it's kinda like this (eh)...<br />
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    "Some species spawn in clusters on the sea floor, increasing their susceptibility to overtrawling."<br />
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    Wow...killing off the worlds plants, animals, and fish for a profit is the Canadian way (eh)...and joining the "Kyoto Accordian" (while skinning baby seals alive in front of their mommies and increasing your greenhouse gas emissions by over 24% since joining the Kyoto Accordian) is all good (eh)....damn those evil American bastards anyway...hmmm..now how can we somehow make this appear as though it's all THEIR fault too..like everything else we do...hmmm...let's put our little wee noggins together now (eh)...gotta tell it the way we want to after all (eh)...not like the way it actually IS (eh)...<br />
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    Dee doop, dee doop, dee doop, dee doop...beavertail anyone(?)...<br />
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  7. Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:57 pm
    no Canadian comment it appears (eh)...like I thought...brain cells must be iced up again....oddly that always seems to happen to them when the icy winds of truth blow in (eh)...

  8. Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:50 pm
    oddly some comments have been "hidden"...hmmm...wonder why that could be???

  9. Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:07 am
    First of all, you post a news story about the Mckenzie Delta, where nearly zero fishing happens and though I will wholeheartedly agree that opening up ecologically sensetive areas to oil exploration isn't a good idea - tell you what there, corn-fed. Lets talk about the gulf of Mexico, Hudson River, ANWR, or Valdez Alaska. Don't get into a ecological pissing match because you won't win this one, buddy.

    With regard to the cod fishery in your next posting ( I worked on contract with MUN ), Again you trolled the internet to find some shred to redeem yourself from inserting your smelly foot into your mouth. You chose to go off about canada's environmental record and your last post about cod stocks cracks me up. If you actually knew ANYTHING about Newfoundland and Labrador, you would know that there is only a tiny, tiny cod fishery and Tuna is not even on the map, in fact I can only think of a tour operator in Conception Bay that offers tuna fishing - it ain't commercial. So.... the decimation of these species continues and do you know why? Because the UK, Portugal, Spain (in particular), France and the US - all members of NAFO fail to apply any level of stewardship to the international waters they fish. Now, you go off about Canada's record, well Newfoundlanders haven't had the chance to make a viable living off of cod since 1992. Hell, the fact is they can't even put it on their own table - look up "food fishery" and you'll understand. Or maybe you won't because you're too busy trolling for more irrelevant news postings. Ass.

  10. Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:12 am
    Oh an one last think schecky. Your comments about the seal hunt - which is now a federally regulated and inspected fishery with specified dates, observers and quotas does not authorize the taking of infant seals, and furthermore most are taken by rifle. True, in the old days there were some isolated incidents that PETA did capture - but what they fail to tell all you corn-feds is that the films are 30+ years old.

    In outport Newfoundland, the seal hunt not only provides many with a liveable income that keeps them off the dole, it also puts food on the table, and believe me if you've ever eaten "flipper" - you'd know you'd have to be pretty frigging desperate to make that your dinner. Also, do some googling on the seal populations around the island of Newfoundland and the Gulf of St. Lawrence - in certain ecosystems they are being blamed for a drastic reduction in caplin stocks also ( just to educate you, there corn-fed caplin are a major food source for cod, you know, its in your fish sticks at your local applebee's in the strip mall) But hey, you know, Americans are clearly morally and environmentally superior in every way, always making educated statments when they can barely even spell their own names.

  11. Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:12 pm
    " corn-fed " ??? Another "polite", "peaceful", "tolerant" Canadian heard from (eh)???

  12. Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:24 pm
    Links to help you "oot" in your search for truth "eh"...<br />
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    <a href="http://www.fisheriescouncil.ca/page.cfm?ID=2">http://www.fisheriescouncil.ca/page.cfm?ID=2</a><br />
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    <a href="http://www.geaconline.com/about_geac.htm">http://www.geaconline.com/about_geac.htm</a><br />
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    <a href="http://www.geaconline.com/historic_allocation_shares.htm">http://www.geaconline.com/historic_allocation_shares.htm</a><br />
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    <a href="http://www.geaconline.com/member_companies.htm">http://www.geaconline.com/member_companies.htm</a><br />
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    <a href="http://www.fisheriescouncil.ca/page.cfm?ID=3">http://www.fisheriescouncil.ca/page.cfm?ID=3</a><br />
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    <a href="http://www.fisheriescouncil.ca/page.cfm?ID=4">http://www.fisheriescouncil.ca/page.cfm?ID=4</a><br />
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  13. Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:55 pm
    "With regard to the cod fishery in your next posting ( I worked on contract with MUN ), Again you trolled the internet to find some shred to redeem yourself from inserting your smelly foot into your mouth. You chose to go off about canada's environmental record and your last post about cod stocks cracks me up. If you actually knew ANYTHING about Newfoundland and Labrador, you would know that there is only a tiny, tiny cod fishery..."

    ummm...precisely (Schecky? WTF?) the point "eh". There isn't much left these days in the way of Cod off Canada's Atlantic coastal region IS there...uummmm...WHY??? Come on now newferman...who was it now...just who WAS it that wiped them "oot" (eh)??? Yeah, Schecky fearing newferman....you and yours. Take a look at the TRUTH (Canada's Kryptonite) again "eh". However, there IS a "bright" side to it "eh"??? You DID say there is a TINY Cod fishery left for you to continue working on until it actually IS all gone "eh"??? Extinction doesn't seem to bother you die hard Canadian communist sorts much does it...naw...kinda like the Pacific Sockeye...hel*...there's MONEY to be made man...MONEY (eh)!!! Let's form a "fisheries council" and hire a few boats to pretend to do some "research" to present to our "progressive", "enlightened" Canadian government to use to finagle the world's environmental groups into letting us kill off the last remaining fish (eh)...after all the membership fees are reasonable "eh"...and that's what keeps us in the chips "eh"...if there's a fish left somewhere, by George we be a findin' er aye, we be a findin' 'er awright... just as quick as a flash now laddies!!!! If'n we didn' a do it jus' waddaya think we be a usin to buy our Keiths bye an' bye...keepin' us warm an cheery "eh" in between dem dere government checques we be a gettin' fer breathin' an sich...

  14. Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:58 pm
    take a peek 'dere newferman...tell 'em 'ol "shecky" sent id on to ya boy...<br />
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    <a href="http://www.geaconline.com/g_has4.gif">http://www.geaconline.com/g_has4.gif</a>



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