Basi & Virk In BC Supreme Court 18 Sept '06

Posted on Monday, September 25 at 14:32 by BC Mary
Sept. 18 and 19, I searched every newspaper as well as CBC News and CKNW for this information, and found nothing, although this is a trial which could shake the very foundations of our governments. That's why I e.mailed the Times Colonist. You saw the response kindly sent by the Editor-in-Chief confirming the hearing but providing no details. Why on earth not? Either the defence and prosecution now have all the evidence they need and therefore are ready to proceed to trial; or they still don't have all the evidence they need, and they requested a further delay. Which is it? Why not tell the people? British Columbians have a need and a right to know 1) what is the trial date; or, 2) if delayed, until what date? Unbelievably, we do not know at this point whether the Trial of the Century is on, or off, or sent to Syria via New York and Jordan. The entire B.C. Legislature remains under a cloud. We desperately need to clear the air. In a Theocracy or a Dictatorship, such things might happen. But not in a Parliamentary Democracy. Not in Canada. Surely not. . II. Some things did happen on 18 Sept. '06 CanWest editors decided that the trial of Basi, Virk and Basi isn't news. You saw the letter. If absolutely nothing happened in that B.C. Supreme court room on Sept 18, that's news. But something did. Bet your boots, some things did happen. After her initial response, I wrote a 2nd e.mail to Ms Chodan. Here it is, and this one upset her: Ms Chodan, Thank you, I am immensely grateful for the information in your reply. I sincerely believe that you would find many, many British Columbian readers of TC who feel a need to know what steps are being taken toward some resolution of the Basi, Virk affair. If, as RCMP Staff Sergeant John Ward said on 29 Dec. 2003, organized crime has reached critical mass in our province, and has found its way into all levels of society, then it's no small matter for the general public to come to grips with the serious nature of the charges against Basi, Virk, and Basi. Having found so little news coverage on such an important subject, I undertook to maintain a blog for this purpose (The Legislature Raids, at http://bctrialofbasi-virk.blogspot.com/ ). And I can say that there is scarcely a detail concerning this issue, including the pretrial appearance of Basi, Virk et al in BC Supreme Court yesterday, which would not be read and considered. Not a lot of hard news was expected from yesterday's pretrial hearing. But the very important basic questions were expected to be answered: was there agreement that both defense and prosecution have the documents they need? If so, are they ready to proceed to trial now? On 4 December? Or? It seems a great pity to me, that a reporter attended this latest hearing, but wasn't able to give the public those much-awaited scraps of information. Is it possible that your reporter could do so now? I would be most grateful, if so. Again, thank you for your response. BC Mary. Ms Chodan did apparently visit this blog and seemed angry that the news she had provided was allowed to be news. Possibly she was upset at having handed me the scoop on her own newspaper so that I was publishing news which she, as Editor-in-Chief of Victoria Times Colonist, had refused to publish. I am ordered not to show you her second message. She did not answer my question about allowing the reporter to fulfill his duties. So the people of British Columbia still do not know what was decided in that court room with a staff reporter right there, on duty, supposedly to keep the public informed. And so far as CanWest is concerned, that's where it ends. It demonstrates that CanWest understood that it's big news when Basi, Virk and Basi go into a B.C. courtroom. It demonstrates that CanWest itself is certainly interested when Basi, Virk and Basi go into a B.C. courtroom. It demonstrates that CanWest decides that they'll try to keep the public in the dark about The Trial of the Century. It wasn't a figment of imagination that there was news on 18 September in B.C. Supreme Court. The fact is: CanWest's Times Colonist decided to ignore it. They didn't just slip up or forget ... their editors met and decided to ignore it. Is that a free press serving the needs of a democratic society? http://bctrialofbasi-virk.blogspot.com [Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on September 27, 2006]

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  1. Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:13 am
    "I am ordered not to show you her second message."

    Ordered by who, and why are you respecting it? Air it!

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    If there was ever a time for Canadians to become pushy - now is the time - for time is running out on this nation called Canada.

  2. Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:06 pm
    Well, Roy, I certainly considered publishing the 2nd response by the
    Times Colonist Editor-in-Chief. Weighing all factors, I decided it wasn't
    worth doing. There was no news value in what she had said.

    She had very carefully avoided mentioning a shred of information. If she
    had said "Yes, the Defence and the Prosecution are ready to proceed to
    trial and the date was agreed for XYZ," it would have been irresistible.
    But there was nothing.

    Sure, I did think about the great headlines: Blogger is sued by CanWest
    for printing the news which CanWest refused to print. But what
    headlines? What newspaper? CanWest has a lock on almost all of them.

    So it seemed, in this particular instance, wiser to continue gathering all
    the news I could, about The Legislature Raids, and posting them for
    general reading. That's my goal.

    But it would be good if you, and a dozen others, were to e.mail the
    Editor-in-Chief (edit@tc.canwest.ca), ask the questions, receive her
    replies complete with Big Threats, and we'll publish all together.

    It's not that CanWest doesn't need reminding that their readers really are
    interested in the news. They sure do. There seems to be an awful
    disconnect there. You could make that big difference.

  3. Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:24 pm
    There are two other options I can think of:

    1) Go to the next part of the trial yourself, or solicit a friend to . . .

    2) Request transcripts from the court. I'm kind of fuzzy on that, but I believe unless they are sealed, you can request them as a member of the public.

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    "I think it's important to always carry enough technology to restart civilization, should it be necessary." Mark Tilden

  4. by Deacon
    Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:35 pm
    sent in mine, will inform after receiving reply

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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  5. Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:29 am
    Well done, Deacon! Could you let me know at bcmary14@rogers.com?

    Dr C., go to the trial, you suggest? Like, WHEN is the trial?? If you find
    out, please let us know. I was hoping that others would be able to
    attend, if only occasionally, so as to give a real-life view of what's said,
    how it's said.

    I want to attend some of the sessions. The trial will be in B.C. Supreme
    Court which means (a) Vancouver, and (b) a very sleazy part of
    Vancouver. In addition, it means taxi, hotel, meals, i.e., about $200. a
    day. The trial is expected to last 3 months.

    2) Obtain a transcript, you suggest. Also a high cost, so far as I know.
    Do you have the info on that? For example, there might be some leeway
    for an issue of public interest?

    On The Legislature Raids blog, I recorded the steps I took to try to get
    the information on the preliminary hearings ... everything that sounds
    easy, isn't. I did connect with one hearing in June; but Basi didn't show
    up; never did find out why.

    I was told by the Trial Co-Ordinator's office that there are Public Access
    Computers set up in the 2nd floor corridor of the Victoria Court House
    (probably other court houses, too). They told me (by phone) that you
    punch in the name you're looking for (Dave Udhe Basi) and the info will
    appear on the screen. Only problem is, when I was in the Victoria Court
    House, I saw no such computers.

    Help.

  6. Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:32 am
    Well done, Deacon! Could you let me know at bcmary14@rogers.com?

    Dr C., go to the trial, you suggest? Like, WHEN is the trial?? If you find
    out, please let us know. I was hoping that others would be able to
    attend, if only occasionally, so as to give a real-life view of what's said,
    how it's said.

    I want to attend some of the sessions. The trial will be in B.C. Supreme
    Court which means (a) Vancouver, and (b) a very sleazy part of
    Vancouver. In addition, it means taxi, hotel, meals, i.e., about $200. a
    day. The trial is expected to last 3 months.

    2) Obtain a transcript, you suggest. Also a high cost, so far as I know.
    Do you have the info on that? For example, there might be some leeway
    for an issue of public interest?

    On The Legislature Raids blog, I recorded the steps I took to try to get
    the information on the preliminary hearings ... everything that sounds
    easy, isn't. I did connect with one hearing in June; but Basi didn't show
    up; never did find out why.

    I was told by the Trial Co-Ordinator's office that there are Public Access
    Computers set up in the 2nd floor corridor of the Victoria Court House
    (probably other court houses, too). They told me (by phone) that you
    punch in the name you're looking for (Dave Udhe Basi) and the info will
    appear on the screen. Only problem is, when I was in the Victoria Court
    House, I saw no such computers.

    Help.

  7. by Deacon
    Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:33 am
    BC Mary, I need you to confirm the email address you gave me. I got a failure to deliver notice when I tried on my hotmail account.

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    "and the knowledge they fear is a weapon to be used against them"

    "The Weapon" - Rush

  8. Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:03 pm
    Deacon: address is correct ...

    bcmary14@rogers.com

  9. Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:02 pm
    The question as to who “ordered” BCMary remains open but then the plot thickens with the line “Blogger is sued by CanWest for printing the news which CanWest refused to print.”

    Courts issue orders
    Commanders issue orders

    Can it be that BCMary was threatened with a law suit, rather than "ordered" because as far as I know BCM<ary is not in the military and a court order takes time?


    ---
    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  10. Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:12 pm
    update.<br />
    BCMary may very well have reason to obey the order she wa given! <br />
    go here read this <br />
    <br />
    <a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092906J.shtml">http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092906J.shtml</a><br />
    <br />
    Is this the direction Canada is taking?<br />
    <br />
    SLAPP suits <br />
    Threaths, fear and governmental terrorism, are they a "now" thing?<br />
    <br />
    <p>---<br>Diogenes said:<br />
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  11. Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:29 pm
    .<br />
    The exact wording of the threat is repeated on the blog. Just click on: <br />
    <a href="http://bctrialofbasi-virk.blogspot.com/">http://bctrialofbasi-virk.blogspot.com/</a> <br />
    <br />
    To contribute toward a healthy conclusion to this trial, people could help <br />
    a lot by contacting their newspaper, TV news, radio news, and ask the <br />
    polite question: when is the trial of Basi, Virk & Basi? when is the trial of <br />
    Basi, Duncan & Young? Has the trial of Ravinder Dosanjh been completed <br />
    ... and if so, what was the result? <br />
    <br />
    Ms Editor-in-Chief certainly demonstrated that CanWest newsrooms are <br />
    very surprised to learn that people really do feel a need to keep <br />
    informed of a situation like this, affecting every level of B.C. life. <br />
    <br />
    Thanks for your support, Dio.

  12. Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:11 am
    We've just found out that the first of the trials resulting from the
    Legislature raids, was concluded on 29 Sept., with no advance notice of
    it. The article did mention, however, that judgment could be expected
    within 2 weeks ... around 12 October.

    If we can find it on the B.C. courts web-site, it should be interesting
    reading.

  13. Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:06 am
    You are most welcome

    ---
    Diogenes said:
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."

  14. Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:18 am
    For those interested there is more on the basi/virk circus at <br />
    <a href="http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/09/28/RightToKnow/">http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/09/28/RightToKnow/</a><p>---<br>Diogenes said:<br />
    "I am Diogenes the Dog. I nuzzle the kind, bark at the greedy and bite scoundrels."



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